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[Imaoldhippie]

To my knowledge no one EVER said that the covid vaccine would prevent anyone from getting the virus.  The yearly flu shots DO NOT keep anyone from getting the flu.

The vaccine helps keep people from getting severe symptoms.

Everyone please keep in mind there are no absolute's in medicine, that is why it is called a practice.

[suzyQ3]

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@Johnnyeager wrote:

Teachers in this school are not unionized and do not work under any contract.

Discussing whether it was legal for the school to fire teachers for receiving a vaccine, employment lawyer Carter Sox with Gallup Auerbach told CBS4: “Generally a private employer in Florida can fire someone for any reason or no reason at all.”

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There are limits to "at will" firings, @Johnnyeager 

[suzyQ3]

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@Puppy Lips wrote:

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@september wrote:

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@Puppy Lips wrote:

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@Kachina624 wrote:

Florida seems to march to a different tune.  Lots of weirdness going on there. This may take the cake. 

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I beg to differ. California takes the cake on weirdness.

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I beg to differ with @Puppy Lips  on this issue.    CA has been very pro-vaccine and has had some of the toughest (some would say, too tough) covid restrictions. 

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I was referring to "weirdness," not this specific situation.

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@Puppy Lips, every state has its own "weirdness." Overall, I am quite satisfied with my home state and feel exceptionally fortunate to live here.

[Andreatoo]

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@Imaoldhippie wrote:

To my knowledge no one EVER said that the covid vaccine would prevent anyone from getting the virus.  The yearly flu shots DO NOT keep anyone from getting the flu.

The vaccine helps keep people from getting severe symptoms.

Everyone please keep in mind there are no absolute's in medicine, that is why it is called a practice.

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@Imaoldhippie 

Well said. I was going to point out the same thing about the flu vaccine...

What is an absolute, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, is that Covid is highly contageous and millions of people across the globe are dying!  It boggles the mind that there are those who choose to challenge EVERY statement released by the CDC and other world health organizations and continue to do nothing to stop the spread!

[Puppy Lips]

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@Andreatoo wrote:

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@Imaoldhippie wrote:

To my knowledge no one EVER said that the covid vaccine would prevent anyone from getting the virus.  The yearly flu shots DO NOT keep anyone from getting the flu.

The vaccine helps keep people from getting severe symptoms.

Everyone please keep in mind there are no absolute's in medicine, that is why it is called a practice.

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@Imaoldhippie 

Well said. I was going to point out the same thing about the flu vaccine...

What is an absolute, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, is that Covid is highly contageous and millions of people across the globe are dying!  It boggles the mind that there are those who choose to challenge EVERY statement released by the CDC and other world health organizations and continue to do nothing to stop the spread!

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Well there are certainly differing opinions from well respected doctors about the best course of action.  Plus, the top "expert" gives conflicting statements.  It is no wonder we are confused.  Once I get my second shot, I will not be wearing a mask again.

[corita]

              I saw this on the news yesterday!!  Really don't understand the reasoning!!  I have not read any news that vaccinated people are a threat to those around them!! And are they not accepting children who have been vaccinated??

              I have had one vaccine and am waiting for the 2nd.  
But I do not think we are over this yet...too many people not getting vaccinated.  And summer get-togethers and vacations are still to come.

             Yet, I do believe people have choices.  I have health issues, so will still be taking precautions. And I want to know if the people around have been vaccinated or not, but I know that I do not have the right to inquire!!

[Drythe]

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@Foxxee wrote:

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@Drythe wrote:

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@Foxxee wrote:

I'm not going to pooh, pooh this school until more information is available.

The CDC is reporting around 60% of those getting Covid now have been vaccinated.  

It's also reporting increasing deaths and serious side effects in all ages in those who have received the vaccine.  This vaccine is experimental. 

Since it works differently than the flu vaccine no one knows the long term effects.    

The vaccine doesn't prevent anyone from getting Covid, it keeps the person from getting a severe case of it; however, there is treatment available now that works very well for those afraid to get it.   

Personally, I don't think masks work very well, not the fabric masks most are wearing.  Viruses are very tiny, smaller than bacteria, and can pass through this fabric. 

The best way to prevent any virus...cold, flu, or Covid, is to stay away from and don't touch anything those who have it touched.  

This vaccine being given now is not a cure as is  observed by those getting Covid who have been vaccinated. Pfizer is working on including a Covid vaccine in with the yearly flu vaccine, so it will be around in the future.    

Don't question me about what I said here.  It's readily available from CDC and elsewhere. 

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@Foxxee 

Don't see the two comments I highlighted anywhere on CDC.

Also Viruses don't motor around all alone, in the case with COVID, they travel in saliva droplets, which are not tiny.  2 layer Fabric does stop them.

You have previously stated you believe nothing the CDC says, why 'quote' them now?

No lecture, no scolding, I totally get your drift.

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@Drythe 

Initially, CDC recommended no mask, then one, later two, even the possibility of using three.  Someone who is a specialist in virology would know one mask would not work, but who's using two?  Maybe, in your area, but I see very few here and on TV...in crowds.  

I do not believe everything CDC says.  The 60% I quoted was confirmed by a very reliable source. Did I need to go into detail when I initially posted that comment? I guess so from the reactions here.  If it turns out to be untrue, I will say so. 

I looked for the 60% today and couldn't find it, as well.  Sorry, but I'm not responsible for what is added or deleted from CDC's website.  

It is nice to know a few here are checking on accuracy themselves rather than asking someone to prove it. 

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Two layer masks, Not two masks.

I always check facts for myself.  As the “very reliable source” you cite, Unable to confirm that either.  Regarding the CDC ‘information’ you mentioned, which has now vanished, I’ll take it as false.

[nevergivesup]

IMO the staff and students’ families who support this decision are free to be as uninformed as they wish. However, should any of them contract covid they have no right to run for help from a healthcare system that is stretched to the max staffed by workers who are still reeling from the emotional trauma they clawed their way through in the last year. I could write a book with the stories my DS and DIL have told us from the front lines in NY last spring. Talk about PTSD.

 To make irresponsible decisions that keep this virus circulating and then expect help from the experts they criticize is the height of moral and intellectual hypocrisy.

[Nuttmeg]

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@50Mickey wrote:

Centner Academy in Miami, Fl is a private school. Like someone else said there are other schools in Miami. Why parents  would pay money to have a child in her school is beyond me. This extreme misinformation being spread by a so called educator is hard to fathom. it boggles the mind to think that there are people who actually believe this stuff. 

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1. I assume parents most be happy with this situation. 

[Nuttmeg]

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@Johnnyeager wrote:

With tuition of about $30,000 per year, per student, I imagine that a lot of parents would not send their children there.

@Johnnyeager 

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I have a feeling the leadership and some parents were behind this action. This was planned and considered decision.