Re: Help Please - Work Problem - UGH! - Page 6

Luvsmyfam · ‎11-26-2019

@BunSnoop no is no! What doesn't he get?not to mention if you plan on retiring in 8 mo,I wouldn't even bother

Calcgirl · ‎03-10-2010

@de1rdre wrote:
Sounds like you may be right -- that this is a task your supervisor is avoiding by assigning it to you (and being a bit condescending in the course of doing so).

Here is my recommendation. Prepare a memorandum to the legal department. It should include two sections. The first section is entitled Facts and consists of a recitation of the facts of the issue to the best of your knowledge. The second section is entitled Questions and will consist of an enumeration of every question that occurs to you regarding the issue, with a caveat that this list is questions is not intended to be exhaustive.

Present the draft to your supervisor. S/he will edit as necessary. Then the legal department will do its job. It is they who must provide advice to your supervisor.

Good luck. Focus on your retirement date -- 8 more months!

Excellent, excellent excellent.

Calcgirl · ‎03-10-2010

The best advice came from De1rde. And to google exactly what you stated the question was that your supervisor gave you. Are you actually going to tell him you are unwilling to research the topic in question? You may find yourself retiring a lot earlier than you had planned.

As for legalities, this is just a draft, posing it as the two parts that Dei 1 rde stated is excellent.

I would also take it as a complement that he/she entrusted you with this. I know as a supervisor I asked those I respected and trusted to do a good job.

Zhills · ‎11-15-2011

Put yourself in HIS shoes for a minute!

@Calcgirl My feelings exactly!

CalminHeart · ‎03-09-2010

@chrystaltree wrote:
@CalminHeart wrote:
@BunSnoop wrote:

Wow, it takes guts to say no. You should at least try to do what was asked.

I'm sorry, I was in middle/senior management before I retired. I always dreaded having to deal with employees like this. If it continued after talking it through with them, I'd probably consider it insubordination, put them on written warning or final warning (which impacts bonus, etc), and it would affect the next performance review.

Bingo! I recently retired, I managed a staff of 40 and I was a supervisor for a decade before that. I obviously OP is only giving us a fantasized version on what really happened. She's insecure because she lacks the education and skill sets that the newer employees come with. She freaked out when she was asked to do this thing. It wasn't what she originally thought. But NO employee of mine would have been allowed to just refuse to do something. My employees didn't tell me what they were going to do. I told them. Of course they could discuss an assignment or project with me or their supervisor. Sometimes they needed training, instructions or help. Out right refusing would be insubordination and the employee would be written up and still have to do the assignment. No one can run an office in which the employees are free to pick and choose what they will and will not do.

Agreed. I have to chuckle at people who think the manager is passing this off on purpose or because he/she doesn't want to do it. It's called delegation. It's what managers have to do. It's how teams work.

Group 5 minus 1 · ‎03-11-2010

So,BUNSNOOP are you going to answer my post?

BunSnoop · ‎05-22-2010

@chrystaltree, supervisors are not GOD - they can also make a mistake. A supervisor, for example, could make a mistake in assigning an assignment to an employee that does not have the skills to complete an assignment. The supervisor may THINK the employee was trained, but since a supervisor is not GOD, they could be wrong!

You said NO employee of yours was allowed to refuse to do something.

Well, the next time you have your car brakes done, for example, if a supervisor assigns an employee to fix your brakes, and the employee knows he is not qualified or trained, and he believes the supervisor must of made a mistake in thinking that he was, I sure hope for your sake the employee out right refuses and explains, as I did, that he has no knowledge to complete the assigned task. Otherwise, if he does not say anything and just does the best he can while doing the assigned brake job, hang on tight as the car your driving may not have any brakes and crash!

CAcableGirl2 · ‎06-03-2010

@BunSnoop I would tend to look at the positive side of this situation. He must have a lot of faith in you and values your input and opinion.

I have been a supervisor for many, many years, and have had people show concern over assignments, but once I explain the entire project and that their input is valued and they may have insight that we may be missing, they have always come out shining and with more confidence in themselves.

I have a manager and have taken on a lot of assignments that don't fall under my normal responsibilities, and honestly, by jumping in and figuring out processes and gaining contacts over the years, I have become more valuable to the company then my peers and have been the one that was asked to travel to other locations to help out on training and launching of new products. I've been to some really nice places too that I never would have traveled to on my own. I'm the first to volunteer and offer help, and I am treated well. It doesn't mean the the corporate office won't lay any of us off, but my attitude is to look around at your competition and if you don't bring more to the table and are more valuable to the company then they are, it's time to step up your game. No one wants to be on the bottom of the totem pole if cuts have to be made. Doesn't mean it won't happen, but I probably won't be the first to go - and neither will my team.

......You look like I need a drink.....

CalminHeart · ‎03-09-2010

@Group 5 minus 1 wrote:
@BunSnoop : Did you take this problem to HR?

Why go to HR? There is no harassment, bias, abuse, mismanagement, loss of rights, etc. It's a manager's request, perfectly within the realm of what manager's can ask any employee to do. It's the employee who is upset at the request and any reputable HR dept would explain it's possible insubordination to refuse.

That said, the manager had a late meeting and things changed, as they often do in the business world, and it all worked out.