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[Citrine1]

Oh, this is an issue that really gets under my skin.  I am a life long dog owner and lover and, in fact, love animals of all kinds, but my feeling is that they do not belong in stores.  When I go shopping, I leave my dog at home and feel others should do the same (unless, of course, they are service dogs).

People around here seem to think it's ok to bring their dogs with them wherever they want, especially if the dog is small.  Such an entitled attitude; I can't stand it.  

[NYCLatinaMe]

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@occasionalrain wrote:

The shoes of children in carts have the same bacteria and viruses as a dog's paws. Children urinate in carts, meat leaks in carts. Produce is exposed to bird droppings and rodents.

In stores, people who own dogs and cats have allergens on their clothing so anyone severely allergic could not safely shop anywhere at all crowded.  

Dogs in stores are fine with me. There are far greater risks like recalled food that arrived at the store contaminated.

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Agree with @occasionalrain.  Any child can poop, drool, pee, vomit, or put their street shoes in a shopping cart.  I treat shopping carts with the understanding any of these may have happened.  A pet could not do worse.

[NYCLatinaMe]

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@AuntMame wrote:

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@Mom2Dogs wrote:

rious to what others thought.

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What the store owner can legally ask is "What task is your dog trained to perform?"  That's not a violation of the ADA or HIPAA or anything else. If the dog is not trained to perform a specific task to help the handler then the store owner can ask the dog owner and dog to leave. 

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The problem is @AuntMame that asking questions can lead to an unpleasant confrontation, like the one I experienced and described above when I asked a lady to restrain her doggie from licking the groceries.  The lady made a scene.  I won't ask again.  Not worth it.  At least the products were packaged.

[NYCLatinaMe]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@Carmie wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@candys mine wrote:

1)  A Shopping cart is NOT a natural place for any dog to be.

2)  If Mummy puts  Precious pooch into the grocery cart and said doggie gets his widdle toesie woesie cought in the cart and breaks it or rips off a nail,  What do you think Mummy Wummy is going to do?

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@candys mine   A dog in a shopping cart is also not a service dog.

Little FooFoo is not assisting a person with limited vision.

Nor is that dog walking next to a wheelchair bound person, at the ready to retrieve a dropped item.

Service dogs perform specific tasks, including intense training to be able to 

determine if a medical condition is about to arise.

Dogs in carts do nothing of any value while the owner expects the world to revolve around the dog.

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Nope, a service dog can walk beside a person in a wheelchair and be a service dog.

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@Carmie    That is what I said. 🙄

The dog in the cart is not a service dog. It doesn't walk next to the person in a wheelchair. I know all the services the service dog provides.

I merely listed one.

I'm sure most here do know.

🙄🙄🙄

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@Cakers3  I guess it must be nice for you to think you "know all the services the service dog provides."

But I sincerely doubt you do.  No one knows everything, not even experts.  Experts take each situation as it comes.

[NYCLatinaMe]

I have never seen a service animal wear a vest identifying it as a service animal.  And I have seen lots of service animals.  It's not required.  I have never seen any.

I have seen unscrupulous vendors selling these vests in the internet and pretending that the vests will magically transform their pets into service animals.

But, no, never seen an animal wear them unless it is an animal accompanying someone begging for money in the street.

[Grace6663582]

People can be allergic and afraid of dogs. Dogs shed and have fleas.  If a dog/ animal owner cannot leave the dog in the car then leave the dog at home. I do not want to smell like dog...yes dogs stink. I can smell a dog and a person that has a dog in the home or car immediately. In addition, I do not want to be smelled or approached by a dog. Children should not be exposed to dogs in public places that are with strangers because anything can happen..In this extreme heat one can never tell the temperament of an animal. Lets just be sake and avoid any drama. keep the animals home. You are not going to die without seeing the dog / animal for the shopping trip. ( service dogs excluded) with certification , papers vests ! If that's a thing . Because I know you can print these papers on the Internet.

[Grace6663582]

YUP, totally agree. I have actually seen people try to say their cat was an emotional service animal. There is a difference between a service animal for the sight impaired and emotional support animals. 

Emotional support animals do not have the right to be in public places unlike Service dogs that are trained in tasks such as providing stability and balance and navagating stairs, there are hearing and signal dogs and autism dogs , those dogs are service dogs as well as so many others. 

There has got to be a limit . We are living in a world now where we cater to the needs of all. This has become a society of I want, I need, I demand, I deserve, I have the right to. 

[Cakers3]

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@NYCLatinaMe wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@Carmie wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@candys mine wrote:

1)  A Shopping cart is NOT a natural place for any dog to be.

2)  If Mummy puts  Precious pooch into the grocery cart and said doggie gets his widdle toesie woesie cought in the cart and breaks it or rips off a nail,  What do you think Mummy Wummy is going to do?

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@candys mine   A dog in a shopping cart is also not a service dog.

Little FooFoo is not assisting a person with limited vision.

Nor is that dog walking next to a wheelchair bound person, at the ready to retrieve a dropped item.

Service dogs perform specific tasks, including intense training to be able to 

determine if a medical condition is about to arise.

Dogs in carts do nothing of any value while the owner expects the world to revolve around the dog.

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Nope, a service dog can walk beside a person in a wheelchair and be a service dog.

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@Carmie    That is what I said. 🙄

The dog in the cart is not a service dog. It doesn't walk next to the person in a wheelchair. I know all the services the service dog provides.

I merely listed one.

I'm sure most here do know.

🙄🙄🙄

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@Cakers3  I guess it must be nice for you to think you "know all the services the service dog provides."

But I sincerely doubt you do.  No one knows everything, not even experts.  Experts take each situation as it comes.

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@NYCLatinaMe  Actually my response was to @Carmie who misread my post and then posted a lecture with a picture. I was referring to knowing the services she seems to think I didn't know about.

You have now also misinterpreted my post.

Your sarcasm and lack of knowing who I am doesn't merit a response but here it is:

just so you know my son is 💯 disabled vet, wheelchair bound permanently.

Read into that as you will.

I'm done with you.

[Carmie]

@Cakers3   I did NOT misread your post.  You clearly posted that dogs who walk beside a wheelchair bound person is not a service dog.

That is why I posted a picture with the explanation that you were incorrect.

You came back at me and said that is what you said, but you did not.

I let it go so as to not start a conformation, but you are still at it.

You clearly were wrong.  Just admit it, or let it go.

Here is a screen shot to refresh your memory.

[on the bay]

@qvcaddition,

I loved reading your story of you and your wonderful dog!

And how wonderful is it that she is 17 years old! That must be because you give her so much love and you were meant to go through life together.