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Re: Whatever Happened to Integrity of Public Officials?


@Winkk wrote:

I live in PA and was reading the paper this morning about a PA Supreme Court judge being called on inappropriate emails.  It just seems as though every time I read the paper or internet there is another public official being relieved of their duties due to poor judgement.

 

Whatever happened to people with integrity, morals and a good role model?  Do they start off OK but then get tainted when they enter office?  I don't know if it is happening more or that since we have news 24/7 we just hear about it more.  Either way it's very discouraging. 


 

What I find even more annoying is how people try to assign the term "good role model" to any celebrity or dumb jock that comes along.    

 

I don't know the specifics of what triggered this thread, but since this individual's job is in a courtroom, who would determine this is a candidate for the term "good role model"?

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This has always been so.  The difference is the media doesn't cover it up anymore.  I voted for JFK, I loved JFK.  It was "Camelot" after all.  The press knew the truth, but did not divulge it.  Some of it has dribbled out over the years.

 

We still don't know all of the real truth about his short presidency and his personal life.  It will come out when all those who are still alive and part of it are gone.

 

And he is, by far, not the only one.

 

 

 

 

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Who would have believed people could become rich, famous and admired for immoral behavior?  Yet, this is where we are: adulterers, exhibitionists, egomaniacs and liars among the lowlifes we idolize in society today.

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@LilacTree wrote:

This has always been so.  The difference is the media doesn't cover it up anymore.  I voted for JFK, I loved JFK.  It was "Camelot" after all.  The press knew the truth, but did not divulge it.  Some of it has dribbled out over the years.

 

We still don't know all of the real truth about his short presidency and his personal life.  It will come out when all those who are still alive and part of it are gone.

 

And he is, by far, not the only one

 

 

 


@LilacTree yep.  See my comments on post #7.  I almost added that our press stopped its complicity during and after Watergate. 

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@Montana wrote:

Who would have believed people could become rich, famous and admired for immoral behavior?  Yet, this is where we are: adulterers, exhibitionists, egomaniacs and liars among the lowlifes we idolize in society today.


 

 

No idolizing here I see no reason to idolize another human. 

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@IamMrsG wrote:

I don't believe it's just a problem with public officials.  Our entire society has degraded and is still sliding downward.

 

Look at what we accept for entertainment.  Look at who we promote to celebrity. Look at how we dress, how we speak.  

 

Why would we be surprised to learn our public officials are any different? After all, who voted them into office?

 

 


Well said IamMrsG!  I think with all the media scrutiny and gossip we have pretty much run off any candidates that would actually like to do the job they were elected for and help people and this great nation.

 

Look how fast they run to the first microphone/camera/Sunday morning talk show.

 

With all this scrutiny, it would be tough for an everyday person to take this job anymore.  I wish I had an answer/good idea but unfortunately I do not.

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Agree with posters' comments.  Additionally, look at how parents have changed in raising children--- no consequences for bad behavior whether at home, school, or elsewhere.  Espousing the morals, or lack thereof, in movies, TV,  "music" lyrics, celebrities, etc.  has consequences.

 

Lack of respect, esp. for women, is rampant: what do you expect subsequent behavior to mirror ( subject of email pornography, increased number of rapes, etc. ) ?  ?  ?

 

 

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@Tinkrbl44 wrote:

@Winkk wrote:

I live in PA and was reading the paper this morning about a PA Supreme Court judge being called on inappropriate emails.  It just seems as though every time I read the paper or internet there is another public official being relieved of their duties due to poor judgement.

 

Whatever happened to people with integrity, morals and a good role model?  Do they start off OK but then get tainted when they enter office?  I don't know if it is happening more or that since we have news 24/7 we just hear about it more.  Either way it's very discouraging. 


 

What I find even more annoying is how people try to assign the term "good role model" to any celebrity or dumb jock that comes along.    

 

I don't know the specifics of what triggered this thread, but since this individual's job is in a courtroom, who would determine this is a candidate for the term "good role model"?


People who some consider role models are a joke.

 

What made me post this morning is because there is a lot of nonsense going on in the PA District Attorney's office.  It has been in the news for weeks.  A lot of high level justices are alleged involved with inappropriate emails and cover ups.  According to news reports this has been going on for quite some time and things are now coming out.  It's a long complicated story which I cannot post because it is political and would be puffed. 

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@Bella Carro wrote:

@LilacTree wrote:

This has always been so.  The difference is the media doesn't cover it up anymore.  I voted for JFK, I loved JFK.  It was "Camelot" after all.  The press knew the truth, but did not divulge it.  Some of it has dribbled out over the years.

 

We still don't know all of the real truth about his short presidency and his personal life.  It will come out when all those who are still alive and part of it are gone.

 

And he is, by far, not the only one

 

 

 


@LilacTree yep.  See my comments on post #7.  I almost added that our press stopped its complicity during and after Watergate. 


Bella Caro, your post comes up as #9 on my screen.  I see that happening all the time on this BB.  Knowing that, I just looked for your nic.

 

I agree with your response.  WG was the turning point.  I have surmised this recent "shock" and what caused it.  However, I don't want to jeopardize this thread, so I won't express it.  I think most people can guess anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Whatever Happened to Integrity of Public Officials?


@LilacTree wrote:

@Bella Carro wrote:

@LilacTree wrote:

This has always been so.  The difference is the media doesn't cover it up anymore.  I voted for JFK, I loved JFK.  It was "Camelot" after all.  The press knew the truth, but did not divulge it.  Some of it has dribbled out over the years.

 

We still don't know all of the real truth about his short presidency and his personal life.  It will come out when all those who are still alive and part of it are gone.

 

And he is, by far, not the only one

 

 

 


@LilacTree yep.  See my comments on post #7.  I almost added that our press stopped its complicity during and after Watergate. 


Bella Caro, your post comes up as #9 on my screen.  I see that happening all the time on this BB.  Knowing that, I just looked for your nic.

 

I agree with your response.  WG was the turning point.  I have surmised this recent "shock" and what caused it.  However, I don't want to jeopardize this thread, so I won't express it.  I think most people can guess anyway.

 

 

 

 

 


@LilacTree you're a wise and clever one Smiley Happy