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Another Good Article about STUFF and DOWNSIZING

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After my father died at 94 in September, leaving my sister and me to empty his one-bedroom, independent living New Jersey apartment, we learned the hard truth that others in their 50s and 60s need to know: Nobody wants the prized possessions of your parents — not even you or your kids.

Admittedly, that’s an exaggeration. But it’s not far off, due to changing tastes and homes. I’ll explain why, and what you can do as a result, shortly.

The Stuff of Nightmares

So please forgive the morbidity, but if you’re lucky enough to still have one or more parents or stepparents alive, it would be wise to start figuring out what you’ll do with their furniture, china, crystal, flatware, jewelry, artwork and tchotchkes when the mournful time comes. (I wish I had. My sister and I, forced to act quickly to avoid owing an extra months’ rent on dad’s apartment, hired a hauler to cart away nearly everything we didn’t want or wouldn’t be donating, some of which he said he’d give to charity.)

Many boomers and Gen X’ers charged with disposing the family heirlooms, it seems, are unprepared for the reality and unwilling to face it.

They’re not picking out formal china patterns anymore. I have three sons. They don’t want anything of mine. I totally get it.

— Susan Devaney, The Mavins Group

“It’s the biggest challenge our members have and it’s getting worse,” says Mary Kay Buysse, executive director of the National Association of Senior Move Managers (NASMM).

“At least a half dozen times a year, families come to me and say: ‘What do we do with all this stuff?’” says financial adviser Holly Kylen of Kylen Financials in Lititz, Pa. The answer: lots of luck.

Heirloom Today, Foregone Tomorrow

Dining room tables and chairs, end tables and armoires (“brown” pieces) have become furniture non grata. Antiques are antiquated. “Old mahogany stuff from my great aunt’s house is basically worthless,” says Chris Fultz, co-owner of Nova Liquidation, in Luray, Va.

On PBS’s Antiques Roadshow, prices for certain types of period furniture have dropped so much that some episode reruns note current, lower estimated appraisals.

And if you’re thinking your grown children will gladly accept your parents’ items, if only for sentimental reasons, you’re likely in for an unpleasant surprise.

“Young couples starting out don’t want the same things people used to have,” says Susan Devaney, president of NASMM and owner of The Mavins Group, a senior move manager in Westfield, N.J. “They’re not picking out formal china patterns anymore. I have three sons. They don’t want anything of mine. I totally get it.”

The Ikea Generation

Buysse agrees. “This is an Ikea and Target generation. They live minimally, much more so than the boomers. They don’t have the emotional connection to things that earlier generations did,” she notes. “And they’re more mobile. So they don’t want a lot of heavy stuff dragging down a move across country for a new opportunity.”

And you can pretty much forget about interesting your grown kids in the books that lined their grandparents’ shelves for decades. If you’re lucky, you might find buyers for some books by throwing a garage sale or you could offer to donate them to your public library — if the books are in good condition.

Most antiques dealers (if you can even find one!) and auction houses have little appetite for your parents’ stuff, either. That’s because their customers generally aren’t interested. Carol Eppel, an antique dealer and director of the Minnesota Antiques Dealers Association in Stillwater, Minn., says her customers are far more intrigued by Fisher Price toy people and Arby’s glasses with cartoon figures than sideboards and credenzas.

Even charities like Salvation Army and Goodwill frequently reject donations of home furnishings, I can sadly say from personal experience.

Midcentury, Yes; Depression-Era, No

A few kinds of home furnishings and possessions can still attract interest from buyers and collectors, though. For instance, Midcentury Modern furniture — think Eames chairs and Knoll tables — is pretty trendy. And “very high-end pieces of furniture, good jewelry, good artwork and good Oriental rugs — I can generally help find a buyer for those,” says Eppel.

“The problem most of us have,” Eppel adds, “is our parents bought things that were mass-produced. They don’t hold value and are so out of style. I don’t think you’ll ever find a good place to liquidate them.”

Getting Liquid With a Liquidator

Unless, that is, you find a business like Nova Liquidation, which calls itself “the fastest way to cash in and clean out your estate” in the metropolitan areas of Washington, D.C. and Charlottesville and Richmond, Va. Rather than holding an estate sale, Nova performs a “buyout” — someone from the firm shows up, makes an assessment, writes a check and takes everything away (including the trash), generally within two days.

If a client has a spectacular piece of art, Fultz says, his company brokers it through an auction house. Otherwise, Nova takes to its retail shop anything the company thinks it can sell and discounts the price continuously (perhaps down to 75 percent off), as needed. Nova also donates some items.

Another possibility: Hiring a senior move manager (even if the job isn’t exactly a “move”). In a Next Avenue article about these pros, Leah Ingram said most NASMM members charge an hourly rate ($40 to $100 an hour isn’t unusual) and a typical move costs between $2,500 and $3,000. Other senior move managers specializing in selling items at estate sales get paid through sales commissions of 35 percent or so.

“Most of the people in our business do a free consultation so we can see what services are needed,” says Devaney.

8 Tips for Home Unfurnishing

What else can you do to avoid finding yourself forlorn in your late parents’ home, broken up about the breakfront that’s going begging? Some suggestions:

1. Start mobilizing while your parents are around. “Every single person, if their parents are still alive, needs to go back and collect the stories of their stuff,” says Kylen. “That will help sell the stuff.” Or it might help you decide to hold onto it. One of Kylen’s clients inherited a set of beautiful gold-trimmed teacups, saucers and plates. Her mother had told her she’d received them as a gift from the DuPonts because she had nursed for the legendary wealthy family. Turns out, the plates were made for the DuPonts. The client decided to keep them due to the fantastic story.

2. Give yourself plenty of time to find takers, if you can. “We tell people: The longer you have to sell something, the more money you’re going to make,” says Fultz. Of course, this could mean cluttering up your basement, attic or living room with tables, lamps and the like until you finally locate interested parties.

3. Do an online search to see whether there’s a market for your parents’ art, furniture, china or crystal. If there is, see if an auction house might be interested in trying to sell things for you on consignment. “It’s a little bit of a wing and a prayer,” says Buysse.

That’s true. But you might get lucky. I did. My sister and I were pleasantly surprised — no, flabbergasted — when the auctioneer we hired sold our parents’ enormous, turn-of-the-20th-century portrait of an unknown woman by an obscure painter to a Florida art dealer for a tidy sum. (We expected to get a dim sum, if anything.) Apparently, the Newcomb-Macklin frame was part of the attraction. Go figure. Our parents’ tabletop marble bust went bust at the auction, however, and now sits in my den, owing to the kindness of my wife.

4. Get the jewelry appraised. It’s possible that a necklace, ring or brooch has value and could be sold.

5. Look for a nearby consignment shop that might take some items. Or, perhaps, a liquidation firm.

6. See if someone locally could use what you inherited. “My dad had some tools that looked interesting. I live in Amish country and a farmer gave me $25 for them,” says Kylen. She also picked out five shelters and gave them a list of all the kitchen items she wound up with. “By the fifth one, everything was gone. That kind of thing makes your heart feel good,” Kylen says.

7. Download the free Rightsizing and Relocation Guide from the National Association of Senior Move Managers. This helpful booklet is on the group’s site.

8. But perhaps the best advice is: Prepare for disappointment. “For the first time in history of the world, two generations are downsizing simultaneously,” says Buysse, talking about the boomers’ parents (sometimes, the final downsizing) and the boomers themselves. “I have a 90-year-old parent who wants to give me stuff or, if she passes away, my siblings and I will have to clean up the house. And my siblings and I are 60 to 70 and we’re downsizing.”

This, it seems, is 21st-century life — and death. “I don’t think there is a future” for the possessions of our parents’ generation, says Eppel. “It’s a different world.”

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Everyone thinks they should get something for their parents/grandparents stuff(AKA junk).For the most part - you aren't going to get enough money to make it worth spending all your time trying to get rid of it in a way you'll maximize your intake. We were working when my parents died , I worked between 60 & 80 hours a week. I had no time and no desire to try and go through all their stuff to try and make a couple bucks.I took home those few things I wanted and all the rest went in one load for one price to a friend who was setting up a new home after getting a divorce. He even took the food that was in the kitchen cabinets.He sent in a crew to pack it and move it and I was very happy to see the place empty. DH & I cleaned it and put it up for sale.

To be honest - people make way too much of this. If I didn't have Joe to buy our stuff I would have called a cleaning service to pack it up and take it to the Vets and that would be it. I told Joe he could give me whatever he felt it was worth after he got to go thru it - he gave me $1600 and I was very glad to get that much.

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There are two groups in my area I keep in mind when disposing of items in good shape.  One is a ministry that helps set up previously homeless people in apartments after they have gone drug free.  The other is a group that sets up foster children as they age out of foster care.  Look around and you will find plenty of good can be done with these items.

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I know this all too well. My grandmother kept buying knicknacks at yard sales and the house soon was cluttered with, and I have to be honest, some of the most hideous looking dolls and figurines. She refused to stop buying it. When she passed away, I tossed almost all of it out. I say almost because my grandfather wouldn't part with some of it.  And now as I'm packing up to move out of the same house, I have a cabinet full of these things I wasn't allowed to get rid of that I don't want. I got rid of a lot of dishes because I use paper plates and plastic cups for eating and drinking. Luckily we have Goodwill, church missions, and Green Drop for donating. 

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I readily admit to feeling the slap in the face reality when I helped my mom clear out my aunts and grandmothers houses.   

 

Outside of selling her car, my aunt wanted her stuff given away to those who wanted, or needed it.   

 

The biggest hurt for me was burning my aunts very large cherished collection of books; hundreds and hundreds of mildewed books carried out into the open field and piled up to burn.  With no central heat, the books were stored for years in rooms that were shut off, so they drew moisture and were ruined, as were many other items in those rooms.   We had to keep someone there at the house for 2 full days until the pile burned down enough to be safe to leave, and then it continued to smolder and burn in the hole for 5 more days.   The memory of that huge pile ablaze will stay with me forever.

 

Both times, I was left with the feeling that with thought and planning, the clear out process could be a lot smoother.   I have my Mom working on reducing her personal things now, and while I do have my own personal items in order, I am still working on the house in general, and will continue to do so.   

 

Hopefully I still have some good years ahead of me, but at least my girls are aware I have tried to ease their burdens with what I’ve done so far.   

 

**This area of southern WV has no group that will come in and clear out a house.   Salvation Army and Union Mission will accept your donated items; they do not pick up.   We have no veterans group who deals with used items, and only 1 consignment store that I’m aware of.   An auction can be arranged, but usually that involves selling the house too, which was not pertinent in our situation.   

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Omg...    Seriously?   Who has the time and strenght to do all of that?  

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@chrystaltree wrote:

 

Omg...    Seriously?   Who has the time and strenght to do all of that?  


You don't get asked.  People die and you are stuck with doing it.  

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My dad gets mad st my mom because she isn’t sentimental and doesn’t  wants to keep junk. She says when her mom passes she doesn’t want anything except the picture of her great grandmother she was named after. My dad keeps everything. We keep telling him to donate all of the shirts he has with the company he has worked  for name. We don’t want them.  

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When my moms mom passes I can guarantee my dad will want her to bring back all her junk. He will try to make my mom feel sentimental but my Mom isn’t. She doesn’t like clutter and a lot of Knick knacks and stuff.  Or my dad will think he can get money for it. When we moved instead of getting rid of stuff he packed it and stored it at my sister. Then brought  it to our new house then finally proceeded to get rid of some stuff. So instead of getting rid of it he moved it like 3 times. He kept pool pumps for this intex type pools. We don’t even have a pool like that anymore. One time he even kept a broken toiket seat in the garage for like 2 years.

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@chrystaltree wrote:

 

Omg...    Seriously?   Who has the time and strenght to do all of that?  


But you don't have to do it as they wrote in this article. You can call someone to come in & have an estate sale. DONE.