Wellness

[mom2four0418]

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@ILTH wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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Nope.

Studies are not telling us anything new. 

Science is not telling us anything new.

Humans have thrived on a low-fat Plant Based diet, mostly based on starches, for millennium.  Facts are facts. 

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Please stop with the garbage science and non-factual facts. 

Starches (agriculture) are relatively new to man. It's not optimal in large quantities for many, if not most. 

Man had thrived on nuts (fat) and berries (natural sugar) since the dawn of man. 

Genetic predispositions, deficiencies, differences are real. Lactose intolerance, for example, is genetic and is common in some populations and not others. 

I thrive on low amounts of animal protein. I can eat some cheese, seafood or eggs every few days. Others can't/don't. They require more. 

Extremes rarely work well for anyone. 

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‘New’?

Might want to talk to King Tut about starches (kamut)....or

Millions of Chinese eating rice for thousands or years.....or

Generations of Irish eating potatoes....or

Sweet potatoes in South America....or

Wheat for the Europeans....or many other examples.

Yeah, our ancestors survived on ‘garbage science’. 😆😆😆

Starches are cheap, easily transported, no refrigeration

and nutritionally dense.  That’s why civilizations for millennium 

have been eating them to successfully survive.

Rice, corn, wheat, gourds, beans, legumes, potatoes.

Your ancestors survived on them; my ancestors survived on them.

I think a history book might be needed at this point. 

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I agree. 

King Tut died at 18 or 19 years old. He's not a role model for me. 

The modern form of humans evolved about 200,000 years ago. 

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It is fascinating that so much has been discovered about him through DNA analysis. It seems that he suffered from several forms of malaria during his lifetime and ultimately died from it. I've never heard of malaria being caused by any particular way of eating.

[ILTH]

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@mom2four0418 wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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Nope.

Studies are not telling us anything new. 

Science is not telling us anything new.

Humans have thrived on a low-fat Plant Based diet, mostly based on starches, for millennium.  Facts are facts. 

---

Please stop with the garbage science and non-factual facts. 

Starches (agriculture) are relatively new to man. It's not optimal in large quantities for many, if not most. 

Man had thrived on nuts (fat) and berries (natural sugar) since the dawn of man. 

Genetic predispositions, deficiencies, differences are real. Lactose intolerance, for example, is genetic and is common in some populations and not others. 

I thrive on low amounts of animal protein. I can eat some cheese, seafood or eggs every few days. Others can't/don't. They require more. 

Extremes rarely work well for anyone. 

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‘New’?

Might want to talk to King Tut about starches (kamut)....or

Millions of Chinese eating rice for thousands or years.....or

Generations of Irish eating potatoes....or

Sweet potatoes in South America....or

Wheat for the Europeans....or many other examples.

Yeah, our ancestors survived on ‘garbage science’. 😆😆😆

Starches are cheap, easily transported, no refrigeration

and nutritionally dense.  That’s why civilizations for millennium 

have been eating them to successfully survive.

Rice, corn, wheat, gourds, beans, legumes, potatoes.

Your ancestors survived on them; my ancestors survived on them.

I think a history book might be needed at this point. 

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I agree. 

King Tut died at 18 or 19 years old. He's not a role model for me. 

The modern form of humans evolved about 200,000 years ago. 

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It is fascinating that so much has been discovered about him through DNA analysis. It seems that he suffered from several forms of malaria during his lifetime and ultimately died from it. I've never heard of malaria being caused by any particular way of eating.

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I didn't say it did.  Tut was held up as an example of non-factual facts. 

Also, Irish don't subsist on just potatoes. More junk facts and arguments. 

[QueenDanceALot]

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@ILTH wrote:

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@mom2four0418 wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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Nope.

Studies are not telling us anything new. 

Science is not telling us anything new.

Humans have thrived on a low-fat Plant Based diet, mostly based on starches, for millennium.  Facts are facts. 

---

Please stop with the garbage science and non-factual facts. 

Starches (agriculture) are relatively new to man. It's not optimal in large quantities for many, if not most. 

Man had thrived on nuts (fat) and berries (natural sugar) since the dawn of man. 

Genetic predispositions, deficiencies, differences are real. Lactose intolerance, for example, is genetic and is common in some populations and not others. 

I thrive on low amounts of animal protein. I can eat some cheese, seafood or eggs every few days. Others can't/don't. They require more. 

Extremes rarely work well for anyone. 

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‘New’?

Might want to talk to King Tut about starches (kamut)....or

Millions of Chinese eating rice for thousands or years.....or

Generations of Irish eating potatoes....or

Sweet potatoes in South America....or

Wheat for the Europeans....or many other examples.

Yeah, our ancestors survived on ‘garbage science’. 😆😆😆

Starches are cheap, easily transported, no refrigeration

and nutritionally dense.  That’s why civilizations for millennium 

have been eating them to successfully survive.

Rice, corn, wheat, gourds, beans, legumes, potatoes.

Your ancestors survived on them; my ancestors survived on them.

I think a history book might be needed at this point. 

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I agree. 

King Tut died at 18 or 19 years old. He's not a role model for me. 

The modern form of humans evolved about 200,000 years ago. 

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It is fascinating that so much has been discovered about him through DNA analysis. It seems that he suffered from several forms of malaria during his lifetime and ultimately died from it. I've never heard of malaria being caused by any particular way of eating.

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I didn't say it did.  Tut was held up as an example of non-factual facts. 

Also, Irish don't subsist on just potatoes. More junk facts and arguments. 

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At the risk of getting sucked into the Fray, I was thinking the same.  The Irish didn't subsist on potatoes, the Chinese ate things other than rice, and sweet potatoes were (are) only a part of a South American's diet.

And I believe some of those other foods were from animals.  

So the Big Starch argument is specious.

[ILTH]

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@mom2four0418 wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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Nope.

Studies are not telling us anything new. 

Science is not telling us anything new.

Humans have thrived on a low-fat Plant Based diet, mostly based on starches, for millennium.  Facts are facts. 

---

Please stop with the garbage science and non-factual facts. 

Starches (agriculture) are relatively new to man. It's not optimal in large quantities for many, if not most. 

Man had thrived on nuts (fat) and berries (natural sugar) since the dawn of man. 

Genetic predispositions, deficiencies, differences are real. Lactose intolerance, for example, is genetic and is common in some populations and not others. 

I thrive on low amounts of animal protein. I can eat some cheese, seafood or eggs every few days. Others can't/don't. They require more. 

Extremes rarely work well for anyone. 

---

‘New’?

Might want to talk to King Tut about starches (kamut)....or

Millions of Chinese eating rice for thousands or years.....or

Generations of Irish eating potatoes....or

Sweet potatoes in South America....or

Wheat for the Europeans....or many other examples.

Yeah, our ancestors survived on ‘garbage science’. 😆😆😆

Starches are cheap, easily transported, no refrigeration

and nutritionally dense.  That’s why civilizations for millennium 

have been eating them to successfully survive.

Rice, corn, wheat, gourds, beans, legumes, potatoes.

Your ancestors survived on them; my ancestors survived on them.

I think a history book might be needed at this point. 

---

I agree. 

King Tut died at 18 or 19 years old. He's not a role model for me. 

The modern form of humans evolved about 200,000 years ago. 

---

It is fascinating that so much has been discovered about him through DNA analysis. It seems that he suffered from several forms of malaria during his lifetime and ultimately died from it. I've never heard of malaria being caused by any particular way of eating.

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I didn't say it did.  Tut was held up as an example of non-factual facts. 

Also, Irish don't subsist on just potatoes. More junk facts and arguments. 

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At the risk of getting sucked into the Fray, I was thinking the same.  The Irish didn't subsist on potatoes, the Chinese ate things other than rice, and sweet potatoes were (are) only a part of a South American's diet.

And I believe some of those other foods were from animals.  

So the Big Starch argument is specious.

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@QueenDanceALot 

Thank you. 

I was going to say all that you said, too, but there's no use in throwing logic, reasoning and facts into some "discussions".😃

I'm leaving the Fray, now. I said my piece. 

[QueenDanceALot]

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@ILTH wrote:

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@mom2four0418 wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@ILTH wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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Nope.

Studies are not telling us anything new. 

Science is not telling us anything new.

Humans have thrived on a low-fat Plant Based diet, mostly based on starches, for millennium.  Facts are facts. 

---

Please stop with the garbage science and non-factual facts. 

Starches (agriculture) are relatively new to man. It's not optimal in large quantities for many, if not most. 

Man had thrived on nuts (fat) and berries (natural sugar) since the dawn of man. 

Genetic predispositions, deficiencies, differences are real. Lactose intolerance, for example, is genetic and is common in some populations and not others. 

I thrive on low amounts of animal protein. I can eat some cheese, seafood or eggs every few days. Others can't/don't. They require more. 

Extremes rarely work well for anyone. 

---

‘New’?

Might want to talk to King Tut about starches (kamut)....or

Millions of Chinese eating rice for thousands or years.....or

Generations of Irish eating potatoes....or

Sweet potatoes in South America....or

Wheat for the Europeans....or many other examples.

Yeah, our ancestors survived on ‘garbage science’. 😆😆😆

Starches are cheap, easily transported, no refrigeration

and nutritionally dense.  That’s why civilizations for millennium 

have been eating them to successfully survive.

Rice, corn, wheat, gourds, beans, legumes, potatoes.

Your ancestors survived on them; my ancestors survived on them.

I think a history book might be needed at this point. 

---

I agree. 

King Tut died at 18 or 19 years old. He's not a role model for me. 

The modern form of humans evolved about 200,000 years ago. 

---

It is fascinating that so much has been discovered about him through DNA analysis. It seems that he suffered from several forms of malaria during his lifetime and ultimately died from it. I've never heard of malaria being caused by any particular way of eating.

---

I didn't say it did.  Tut was held up as an example of non-factual facts. 

Also, Irish don't subsist on just potatoes. More junk facts and arguments. 

---

At the risk of getting sucked into the Fray, I was thinking the same.  The Irish didn't subsist on potatoes, the Chinese ate things other than rice, and sweet potatoes were (are) only a part of a South American's diet.

And I believe some of those other foods were from animals.  

So the Big Starch argument is specious.

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@QueenDanceALot 

Thank you. 

I was going to say all that you said, too, but there's no use in throwing logic, reasoning and facts into some "discussions".😃

I'm leaving the Fray, now. I said my piece. 

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@ILTH 

These discussions always end up as a tug of war so leaving the Fray is probably a good idea!

[Drythe]

@GingerPeach 

Thank you for this information.

Too bad those with only one note 🎵

are unable to think more broadly.

[Sooner]

A diet not well rounded will affect your brain adversely studies say.  Especially recent ones I've read related to dementia.  

[Grouchomarx]

I always wonder why someone who is unwilling and unable to appreciate someone else's POV wanst to join these conversations. Do they think we're all gonna sudden subscribe to their POV just like that?  And the stereotyping of Irish people being a bunch of potato munchers is a bit insulting.  Same for the Chinese rice comment. Stop painting whole cultures with your narrow minded vegan brush to prove a point that is not even correct.

[sidsmom]

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@Grouchomarx wrote:

I always wonder why someone who is unwilling and unable to appreciate someone else's POV wanst to join these conversations. Do they think we're all gonna sudden subscribe to their POV just like that?  And the stereotyping of Irish people being a bunch of potato munchers is a bit insulting.  Same for the Chinese rice comment. Stop painting whole cultures with your narrow minded vegan brush to prove a point that is not even correct.

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History is history.

Is not nutritional eduction at this point. 

All cultures from around the world for millinum have starches as

their foundation for nutritional survival.  That’s a fact.

Pick up a history book. 

[novamc1]

Here we go again with blanket statements that don't make it through the wash.

All that rice eaten by the Chinese was supplemented with fish.  All the potatoes in Ireland most likely would have a dose of lamb (or Irish stew) on the side.

And it's hard to disprove something I've always believed..........humans, like all or almost all other mammals are born to be omnivores.

People who follow  vegan or plant-based diets often ALSO RELY ON VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS to get  B vitamins and the one essential amino acid  that non-animal-proteins DO NOT provide!!  

Here's just one of countless info sources on this subject:

https://takecareof.com/articles/complete-vs-incomplete-protein