Wellness

[hckynut]

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@Ibby114 wrote:

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@KarenQVC wrote:

for covid.  If your child gets the symptoms would you have him/her tested?  Some moms are blocking testing so the schools the kids attend won't close.  A sort of pact among moms.

I would want to know for the sake of my child.

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@KarenQVC I would definitely test my child. Whether their death rate is low or not isn't the issue. It's about the safety of the school staff, administrators- and also the virus transmission (asymptomatic or not)  being brought home. 

@Ibby114 

It's amazing nowadays how parents seem now to be "oh so concerned" about teachers/janitors and everyone employed by a school.

Wasn't that long ago that my niece and nephew, that love children, quit teaching. Why? Because "it wasn't Johnny's fault", it's those dam teachers.

My niece became a lawyer my nephew moved to Idaho and became a principal at a private school. The parents sent their kids there because of the teachers.

What a bunch "who shot john", as a well known person says: "malarkey". Worried about the teachers and staff, that's a good one, and a switcheroo!

hckynut

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[hckynut]

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@hckynut , I don't know whether to laugh or cry. The misinformation in your post is sad. I have no idea where this is coming from in regard to statistics but it is magical thinking and not based on the facts.

Hi @Trinity11,

You can do either, or both. Maybe like I have done, laugh until i cry. The statistics i posted where not from my "magical thinking". Do your own research, and if you have, if they differ from mine, please post them, or a link, for me will you?

It's unfortunate that now in 2 different threads you have used some version of the word sad in connection to things I have said in this or another forum.

I very, very seldom even use that word, because to me in many instances it points to negativity and/or pessimism. You don't often read anything I post that uses either of those words. Why? Because they are the opposite way I have always viewed my life. Yes, even during my 7+ days in a mental hospital. 

I looked at hope and achieving a remission from being in that "very dark hole". Without optimism and trying to look at the happy things in my life? To put it bluntly!  I would be dead!

hckynut 

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[bikerbabe]

You don’t send your kid to school when they are infectious, whether it’s the flu, measles, whooping cough, RSV, or COVID. Seems like a pretty straightforward concept.

[goldensrbest]

I just don't understand why a parent would not test their child, does it matter how many have died of this? If it is your child that died it would matter,if you have not been a parent ,then i guess it would not matter to some,from what i am reading on here.

[hckynut]

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@KarenQVC wrote:

I think age 26 is a fair standard for economic maturity in these times.  So many young people go to professional and grad school and don't have real jobs until that age.

I was 25 before I had a real job.  The 6 years of college paid off in the long run.

@KarenQVC 

I am guessing you grew up in a different environment than myself, and maybe how we were raised. No, I didn't go to "grad school" or "have a profession". My only schooled education was my GED while serving in the United States Army.

My very 1st job was as a paperboy and I was 8. Maybe to you not a "real job", but at 8 years old those huge Sunday Papers were very hard to carry. We can maybe just substitute with the word "hard work", in lieu of "real job".

I won't go into my many what I considered "real jobs". But from 12 years old till 16+, I worked nights till 1:00am/3 week nights. Why? To save money for my mother and 3 sisters to move out of our Public Housing Projects home. Was "real" to me and my family.

Then when 18-1/2, I joined the United States Army. Not a "real job" of course, just a way to pass my time. Took me 6 years to get my Honorable Discharge from the US Army, so by then I was almost 25, still in your view considered as falling into the "children" category.

Somehow I did manage to get a "real job" and work there for 33 years and be able to retire at the old, old age of 52.  I skipped several other jobs I worked, that in your view were not considered "real", but I did get paid in $$$.

It's a great country we live in with so many differing life experiences. Even the fact that the definition of the word "real" can actually be defined, in "real life", as being almost polar opposites.

hckynut 

[hckynut]

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@Carmie

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What about the teachers and others who work and volunteer at the schools?  There are many adults in the school buildings and many are not young or healthy.

@Carmie 

I addressed that in one of my other posts. My nephew, who quit teaching because of everything was the "teachers fault", backed up by his administrators. "Not my good little johnny", it's his teachers.

That nephew's very 1st job when he was a freshman? He worked nights as a janitor in several elementary schools.

So yes, I get that others work at schools. If schools are open? Adults can choose if they wish to be employed there, or a volunteer. Nobody is forcing anyone to be there.

The only thing I view as "forced"?  Not allowing certain willing people to go to work,  from even going to church, which is against the United States Constitution. However in many places they will be cited, some even arrested.

hckynut 

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[RetRN]

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@tends2dogs wrote:

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@chrystaltree wrote:

Thankfully, I do not live in a place where people are that selfish, mean and uneducated about Covid 19 or so unconcerend about the health of their own children or the community.  

Wow, do you know everyone in your community and what they do, what choices they make? 

v

You must live in Utopia......where no one is selfish, mean, or uneducated about Covid........lucky you....

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And why is her 3 yr. old grandchild even going to school? If the parents are so concerned they can keep the child home and care for it themselves.

[KarenQVC]

@hckynut So you could take care of yourself when you were 18.  So that was a real job.  Many people want to go to school to get different jobs.  Society needs those people too, so we help them along until they are 26.

Teachers do have union contracts that guarantees their safety in many ways.  There are work safety laws within states, too.  I assume lawyers on both sides are sorting it all out.

[hckynut]

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@KarenQVC wrote:

@hckynut So you could take care of yourself when you were 18.  So that was a real job.  Many people want to go to school to get different jobs.  Society needs those people too, so we help them along until they are 26.

Teachers do have union contracts that guarantees their safety in many ways.  There are work safety laws within states, too.  I assume lawyers on both sides are sorting it all out.

@KarenQVC 

At 18? No actually I was financially taking care of myself at 12. I gave my money to my mother, not the usual way money is transacted between parent and child.

I agree that people want to school, but! That is pretty much the only thing I have heard from parents for decades. We have to "save for our kids college". Very seldom heard "save for our kids trade school".

As far as "helping till healthy people are 26"? My 3 sisters all got either a college degree or a license to practice their professions. With help? No, they worked and went to school at the same time. There are jobs out there now, just not jobs some think meets "their" standards.

As far as teachers? Four members of my family worked for school districts. Of those 3 were teachers and 1 worked in the district office. Their concerns back then were not "safety", it was "teachers were always wrong, little johnny was always right".Their Administrators agreed, that is why 2 of the 3 quit teaching, not because of safety fears.

My race car partner taught high school for 8 years. He too quit for the same reason. He became an over-the-road truck driver and loved it. No kids/parents or administrators telling them they they are wrong.

hckynut 

[Lipstickdiva]

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@CrazyDaisy wrote:

And this pearl of information is coming from where?

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@CrazyDaisy , I've heard about this on our local news.

There are also people who are uncooperative with contact tracers.  They either refuse to answer the phone and don't return a call when a message is left, or they answer and won't give necessary information.