Wellness

[Trinity11]

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

No one here knows how much heredity, diet, lifestyle, and stress contributed to SL's blockage.  Not even her doctor.

It is reasonable to consider that without her attention to fitness and diet that, given her family history (father) that without that attention she would have faced this issue decades earlier.  I believe the no. 1 killer of women in their 40's is now heart disease?

We also don't know what sort of stress she lived with and, more importantly, how she dealt with that stress.  It could be a very significant factor.

I found it a rather astounding thing for a doctor to say that after putting stents into her heart that she now has the heart of a 20 year old.  A healthy 20 year old heart doesn't have stents in it.  Sounds like hubris to me.

JMO.    

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@QueenDanceALot, I absolutely adore him. He fixed a situation that almost killed me from a previous doctor's negligence and last year I managed to stay out of the cath lab.

Is he humble? A resounding no but he is very much an advocate for women and how different our arteries are from that of a man's. When he came into my room right after he placed an additional 2 stents, he told me call him day or night and that my positive nature would help my heart to heal. He even gave me his home phone number. Luckily, I didn't need to call but I heard from another patient he postponed his vacation just to save his life. He has been instrumental in teaching new techniques to surgeons across the country. The man is literally a genius.

From what I know of Dr. S. he has a very positive attitude and once told me that I will die from something else but as long as he is on this earth, it won't be from a heart attack. I think telling Susan that she has the heart of a 20 year old he probably meant to encourage her. Having a heart attack changes a person. You are never sure if you are going to be here tomorrow. Having such a positive doctor in your corner helps immensely.

[sidsmom]

Dr Dean Ornish

I just listened to an interview with him & was questioned about

calcified arteries not related to diet.  In a nutshell, yes, there’s nothing

one can do about the calcifies arteries but there’s enough soft plaque

which CAN be healed to make a huge difference.

Here’s the entire interview:

https://youtu.be/B2HYXzmjkY8

For someone to continually say ‘it’s genetics’ is poor self-care.

And if one knows it’s genetic, why would they continually

feed their body with foods known to cause heart disease?

Low Fat Whole Food Plant Based nutrition has healed SO

many people...it’s embarrassing for those who argue against it.

Nutrition is such a MAJOR part of our life, but people put

such minor thought into it.

For the many silent readers of this forum who have illness and

look to these boards for medical discussion, please check out

the works of the many national plant doctors. 

Drs. John McDougall, Caldwell Esselstyn, Neal Barnard, Dean Ornish

just to name a few. Plant based is still ‘fringy’ within the

Medical Community but it’s gaining more & more attention

becuaee it works.

The message is very consistent.

Plants heal. 

[Fifi1]

She's very lucky they didn't just do an EKG and say "it's normal", and send her on her way!  

I'm glad she went forward and is talking, getting others to go check things out is great!

I'm going Monday for a check, racing resting heart rate - most likely anxiety, but don't' want to assume anything.  I do have regular check ups. 

[QueenDanceALot]

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

No one here knows how much heredity, diet, lifestyle, and stress contributed to SL's blockage.  Not even her doctor.

It is reasonable to consider that without her attention to fitness and diet that, given her family history (father) that without that attention she would have faced this issue decades earlier.  I believe the no. 1 killer of women in their 40's is now heart disease?

We also don't know what sort of stress she lived with and, more importantly, how she dealt with that stress.  It could be a very significant factor.

I found it a rather astounding thing for a doctor to say that after putting stents into her heart that she now has the heart of a 20 year old.  A healthy 20 year old heart doesn't have stents in it.  Sounds like hubris to me.

JMO.    

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@QueenDanceALot, I absolutely adore him. He fixed a situation that almost killed me from a previous doctor's negligence and last year I managed to stay out of the cath lab.

Is he humble? A resounding no but he is very much an advocate for women and how different our arteries are from that of a man's. When he came into my room right after he placed an additional 2 stents, he told me call him day or night and that my positive nature would help my heart to heal. He even gave me his home phone number. Luckily, I didn't need to call but I heard from another patient he postponed his vacation just to save his life. He has been instrumental in teaching new techniques to surgeons across the country. The man is literally a genius.

From what I know of Dr. S. he has a very positive attitude and once told me that I will die from something else but as long as he is on this earth, it won't be from a heart attack. I think telling Susan that she has the heart of a 20 year old he probably meant to encourage her. Having a heart attack changes a person. You are never sure if you are going to be here tomorrow. Having such a positive doctor in your corner helps immensely.

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@Trinity11

I know you love your doctor, and I understand why.

I don't care if he's humble or not humble (not a characteristic I necessarily look for in a doctor).  I was just commenting on his comment that SL now has the heart of a 20 year old.  

My best friend had a heart attack in her 40's.  My personal opinion is that it was the result of extreme stress (which I won't go into here).  And the guy I know who had a quadruple bypass 20 some years ago, he had an extraordinarily stressful life which I believe was a big factor.

So I do know that having a heart attack changes a person.  I just don't know that I'd believe a doctor who tells me after a surgery to put 2 stents in my heart that I'd believe I then had the heart of a 20 year old.

[Trinity11]

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

No one here knows how much heredity, diet, lifestyle, and stress contributed to SL's blockage.  Not even her doctor.

It is reasonable to consider that without her attention to fitness and diet that, given her family history (father) that without that attention she would have faced this issue decades earlier.  I believe the no. 1 killer of women in their 40's is now heart disease?

We also don't know what sort of stress she lived with and, more importantly, how she dealt with that stress.  It could be a very significant factor.

I found it a rather astounding thing for a doctor to say that after putting stents into her heart that she now has the heart of a 20 year old.  A healthy 20 year old heart doesn't have stents in it.  Sounds like hubris to me.

JMO.    

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@QueenDanceALot, I absolutely adore him. He fixed a situation that almost killed me from a previous doctor's negligence and last year I managed to stay out of the cath lab.

Is he humble? A resounding no but he is very much an advocate for women and how different our arteries are from that of a man's. When he came into my room right after he placed an additional 2 stents, he told me call him day or night and that my positive nature would help my heart to heal. He even gave me his home phone number. Luckily, I didn't need to call but I heard from another patient he postponed his vacation just to save his life. He has been instrumental in teaching new techniques to surgeons across the country. The man is literally a genius.

From what I know of Dr. S. he has a very positive attitude and once told me that I will die from something else but as long as he is on this earth, it won't be from a heart attack. I think telling Susan that she has the heart of a 20 year old he probably meant to encourage her. Having a heart attack changes a person. You are never sure if you are going to be here tomorrow. Having such a positive doctor in your corner helps immensely.

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@Trinity11

I know you love your doctor, and I understand why.

I don't care if he's humble or not humble (not a characteristic I necessarily look for in a doctor).  I was just commenting on his comment that SL now has the heart of a 20 year old.  

My best friend had a heart attack in her 40's.  My personal opinion is that it was the result of extreme stress (which I won't go into here).  And the guy I know who had a quadruple bypass 20 some years ago, he had an extraordinarily stressful life which I believe was a big factor.

So I do know that having a heart attack changes a person.  I just don't know that I'd believe a doctor who tells me after a surgery to put 2 stents in my heart that I'd believe I then had the heart of a 20 year old.

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I think you are 100% right @QueenDanceALot about stress being a factor in heart disease. 

I hope your friend continues to do well. And I do understand where you are coming from...

[sidsmom]

@QueenDanceALot

ITA about someone having a heart attack changes a person.

In one of Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn lectures, he mentions 

the lingering cloud of “waiting for the ‘next shoe to drop”

is overwhelming for many of these patients.  

It consumes your soul.  

Speaking of that, I remember someone saying, once a doctor

cracks your chest open, a part of your soul is gone & never returns.

Many people just ‘don’t look right’ or ‘act right’ when returning home.

Could be the ‘next shoe to drop’ idea.

[Trinity11]

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@sidsmom wrote:

@QueenDanceALot

ITA about someone having a heart attack changes a person.

In one of Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn lectures, he mentions 

the lingering cloud of “waiting for the ‘next shoe to drop”

is overwhelming for many of these patients.  

It consumes your soul.  

Speaking of that, I remember someone saying, once a doctor

cracks your chest open, a part of your soul is gone & never returns.

Many people just ‘don’t look right’ or ‘act right’ when returning home.

Could be the ‘next shoe to drop’ idea.

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@sidsmom...stents? No one's chest is cracked open. In fact, I went home the same day I had my procedure.

My MIL had by-pass surgery and did well for years. She acted just fine and her soul was very much still intact.

[BalletBabe]

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@Fifi1 wrote:

She's very lucky they didn't just do an EKG and say "it's normal", and send her on her way!  

I'm glad she went forward and is talking, getting others to go check things out is great!

I'm going Monday for a check, racing resting heart rate - most likely anxiety, but don't' want to assume anything.  I do have regular check ups. 

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@Fifi1   EKG's are a joke.   They may show if you have had a heart attack or your heart is in a irregular rhythm.   Now they want to do one as a baseline---I refuse and here is why.

About 20 years ago, I was waking up with chest pain around 4 am.  I was on a HMO.  My PCP made me drive 20 min to his office and they did a EKG.  It showed nothing.  That night it happened again.  I actually worked for this goof.  I got my labs and it showed my tyroid levels were high, I asked him about it, he said it was fine.    

It happened almost every night and I could feel my heart rate was going nuts.  Within a week, it kept getting worse.  I called PCP again and he would not okay me going to the ER.  I called the insurance company and they told me to go to the ER.  I went, when they hooked me to a monitor, you could see myheart rate was going nuts.  They got copies of all my bloodwork.  I told them I do not want my PCP and was switching to a new Dr.  He actually came in and saw me in the ER and said "Your thyroid levels are way too high"  I was admitted for 24 hours and they adjusted my thyroid levels and never had a problem since.

I gighly recommend any of you that have any type of issues, DO NOT GO TO A PCG/GP   GO DIRECTLY TO A CARDIOLOGIST. 

[sidsmom]

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

@QueenDanceALot

ITA about someone having a heart attack changes a person.

In one of Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn lectures, he mentions 

the lingering cloud of “waiting for the ‘next shoe to drop”

is overwhelming for many of these patients.  

It consumes your soul.  

Speaking of that, I remember someone saying, once a doctor

cracks your chest open, a part of your soul is gone & never returns.

Many people just ‘don’t look right’ or ‘act right’ when returning home.

Could be the ‘next shoe to drop’ idea.

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@sidsmom...stents? No one's chest is cracked open. In fact, I went home the same day I had my procedure.

My MIL had by-pass surgery and did well for years. She acted just fine and her soul was very much still intact.

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M’kay

It’s still a surgery which is totally preventable.

[Laura14]

@QueenDanceALot @Trinity11  There is actually a different type of heart attack in laymen's terms called "broken heart syndrome".  It's medical name is Japanese for octupus because that's what the heart looks like and the doctor who named it was from Japan.  

Instead of your arteries clogging, the stress hormones in your body are so ramped up, it squeezes the artery shut on its own and stops the blood flow that way. 

Biggest customers of that one are middle aged women with extreme stress.