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Hey ladies!! @cherry @sidsmom 

 

I am not taking sides, but I have a feeling this back and forth could escalate, and this thread could possibly be closed. Just my outside view.

 

 

 

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What causes Alzheimer's? We still aren't sure. "For 1% of all cases, there are three genes that determine definitively whether or not you will have Alzheimer's, and all three relate to amyloid-beta production, which in these cases is likely the cause of Alzheimer's," says Dr. Gad Marshall, associate medical director of clinical trials at the Center for Alzheimer Research and Treatment at Harvard-affiliated Brigham and Women's Hospital. "For the other 99%, amyloid and tau are closely associated with Alzheimer's, but many things may contribute to the development of symptoms, such as inflammation in the brain, vascular risk factors, and lifestyle."

Improve your lifestyle

Healthy habits may help ward off Alzheimer's. Consider the following steps.

Exercise. "The most convincing evidence is that physical exercise helps prevent the development of Alzheimer's or slow the progression in people who have symptoms," says Dr. Marshall. "The recommendation is 30 minutes of moderately vigorous aerobic exercise, three to four days per week."

Eat a Mediterranean diet. "This has been shown to help thwart Alzheimer's or slow its progression. A recent study showed that even partial adherence to such a diet is better than nothing, which is relevant to people who may find it difficult to fully adhere to a new diet," says Dr. Marshall. The diet includes fresh vegetables and fruits; whole grains; olive oil; nuts; legumes; fish; moderate amounts of poultry, eggs, and dairy; moderate amounts of red wine; and red meat only sparingly.

Get enough sleep. "Growing evidence suggests that improved sleep can help prevent Alzheimer's and is linked to greater amyloid clearance from the brain," says Dr. Marshall. Aim for seven to eight hours per night.

Not as certain

We have some—but not enough—evidence that the following lifestyle choices help prevent Alzheimer's.

Learn new things. "We think that cognitively stimulating activities may be helpful in preventing Alzheimer's, but the evidence for their benefit is often limited to improvement in a learned task, such as a thinking skills test, that does not generalize to overall improvement in thinking skills and activities of daily living," says Dr. Marshall.

Connect socially. "We think that greater social contact helps prevent Alzheimer's," explains Dr. Marshall, but so far, "there is only information from observational studies."

Drink—but just a little. There is conflicting evidence about the benefit of moderate alcohol intake (one drink per day for women, one or two for men) and reduced risk of Alzheimer's. "It is thought that wine in particular, and not other forms of alcohol, may be helpful, but this has not been proved," says Dr. Marshall.

What you should do

Even though we don't have enough evidence that all healthy lifestyle choices prevent Alzheimer's, we do know they can prevent other chronic problems. For example, limiting alcohol intake can help reduce the risk for certain cancers, such as breast cancer. Best advice: make as many healthy lifestyle choices as you can. "They're all beneficial, and if they help you avoid Alzheimer's, all the better," says Dr. Marshall.

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W hat causes Alzheimer's?

There are two forms of Alzheimer's: early onset and late onset.

Early-onset Alzheimer's typically affects people before age 65, with the symptoms usually showing up in a person's 40s or 50s. This form of the disease is uncommon, affecting just 5 percent of all people with Alzheimer's, according to the Mayo Clinic.

In most cases, scientists know exactly what causes early-onset Alzheimer's: genetic mutations passed down through the family. Mutations in one of three genes — called APP, PSEN1 and PSEN2 — can cause a person to develop the early-onset form of the disease. In fact, a person needs to inherit only one of these genes from one parent for the disease to manifest.

The vast majority of Alzheimer's cases, however, are the late-onset type, which typically affects people over age 65, said Dr. Riddhi Patira, an assistant professor of neurology at the University of Pittsburgh Alzheimer's Disease Research Center.

Late-onset Alzheimer's disease isn't necessarily hereditary; in other words, even if a person's parents both have the late-onset form of the disease, that person is not guaranteed to also get it, Patira said. Among her patients, "this is the most common misconception," she added.

So, what does cause late-onset Alzheimer's?

Scientists don't really know yet. Alzheimer's is likely not simply the result of one cause, but rather a combination of genetic, environmental and lifestyle factors, Patira told Live Science. 

For example, a mutation in a gene called ApoE is thought to increase a person's risk for developing late-onset Alzheimer's, but it does not cause it, Patira said. When people who have taken genetic tests come in with a concern that they have this gene, Patira tells them, "it does increase your risk, but it does not guarantee anything."

ApoE plays a role in how cholesterol moves through the blood, according to the National Institutes of Health. Some evidence suggests that people with high blood pressure and high cholesterol have an increased chance of developing Alzheimer's.

Potential environmental causes include radiation, concussions, trauma and exposure to certain chemicals, Patira said. But really, "any cause [you] can imagine, you will find a study about it in the literature," she said. "Everything is hot in Alzheimer's research because people are really desperate" to find a cure.

But lately, scientists have increasingly turned their attention to microbes.

Microbes take the stage

The study that spurred last week's headlines was published on Jan. 23 in the journal Science Advances. In this study, researchers suggested that Porphyromonas gingivalis, the bacteria that cause a common type of gum disease, may also play a role in Alzheimer's. The researchers found that people with Alzheimer's had these bacteria in their brains.

The majority of the study was conducted in mice, however. In those animals, the team showed that the bacteria were able to travel from the mouth to the brain, where they could inflict damage on brain cells and increase the production of the beta-amyloid proteins that cause the telltale plaques of Alzheimer's. What's more, the researchers found that they could stop this damage in mouse brains by targeting toxic enzymes produced by the bacteria. [7 Ways the Mind and Body Change With Age]

Patira noted that while the new study is "well-done … it was done in mice, and mice's brains are similar to [ours] but not the same." Many studies looking at late-stage Alzheimer's have been conducted on mice — some were successful, some not. But even the successful ones, one after the other, failed when they reached the human stage, Patira said.

In any case, while staying skeptical that the new findings will hold true in humans, she said that the results are "promising."

Keith Fargo, the director of scientific programs and outreach for the Alzheimer's Association, agreed that it's "definitely plausible" that such bacteria could play a role in Alzheimer's. However, he also noted that because the study was conducted in mice, its results shouldn't yet be interpreted as holding true for humans.

The idea that bacterial or viral infections could play a role in the development of Alzheimer's was "a bit out of the mainstream" up until maybe a year ago, Fargo told Live Science. But lately, this idea has gained momentum, as scientists have figured out possible mechanisms for how an infection could lead to the formation of these abnormal protein buildups in the brain.

"There may be some kind of infectious agent that attacks the brain and, as part of the immune system's response to that infectious agent, amyloid plaques may develop," Fargo said. "But it may not necessarily be the amyloid plaque itself that's causing the harm. It could be infectious agents."

The microbes most commonly suspected of playing a role in Alzheimer's are herpesviruses.

This controversial idea has been around for a long time. However, it was bolstered last June, when a study published in the journal Neuron found that the brains of deceased people who'd had Alzheimer's had higher levels of herpesviruses than did the brains of deceased people who had not had Alzheimer's.

But even if a virus plays a role in the development of the disease, it's likely not the only factor.

With herpes, for example, the vast majority of people are infected with a herpesvirus infection before the age of 5, Fargo said. "But only about a third of people over the age of 85 develop Alzheimer's disease," he said. So, if microbes do play a role in Alzheimer's disease, there's also something else going on that makes some people more susceptible to the condition.

Whether infectious agents play a role or even cause Alzheimer's, Fargo wanted to make one thing clear: "There is no reason for anyone to believe that Alzheimer's disease is contagious." 

The golden age

Most scientists in this field are expecting that they will soon learn that there are multiple causes of Alzheimer's, Fargo said. And he said he's hopeful we'll soon understand the disease much more clearly than we do now. "I actually tell people that we are entering a golden age of Alzheimer's research," he said.

Though most drugs that have been developed to targeted Alzheimer's have failed early in clinical trials, there are still trials ongoing and there will be more in the future. "I'm optimistic that at some point in time I will have more things to offer my patients," Patira said.

For now, people can lead a healthy lifestyle to reduce their risk of developing the disease, she said. Indeed, there is increasing evidence that physical, mental and social activities reduce the risk of getting Alzheimer's, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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To clarify again, the APOE4 gene I am talking about does apply to late onset Alzheimers.  

 

There is a separate science for early onset Alzheimer's which is the kind you see that runs heavily in families who develop it in their 30-40s-50s.  Totally different and separate.

 

Most people will get late onset Alzheimers which is what the APOE4 gene is most closely associated with. Everyone regardless of your combo for APOE has a 50-50 shot of Alzheimer's by age 85. 

 

Most people are APOE3/3  which means you can swing yourself either way depending on diet and lifestyle.  The adage of your destiny is in your hands is very true for most.

 

For those with one or both APOE4, you have to be a bit more vigilant with nutrition and lifestyle as you are at increased risk.  How much varies widely among the studies. 

 

Right now, the Mediterranean or Keto done the correct way with zero saturated fat is the best thing out there and has shown a reduction in symptoms lately among small groups being studied.

 

Possibly thought to be because people with the APOE4 gene are hyper-absorbers of saturated fat and do not clean it out of their bodies or process it to the brain as cleanly or efficiently as they should. As a result, they really need to steer clear of dairy and other saturated fats and oils.

 

Intermittent fasting for 12-16 hours a day is also shown to be helpful to give their bodies more time to clean up and clear out the fat.  

 

There is also evidence of gut health being extremely important to the brain which means very little if any grains in your diet since gluten messes with the gut microbiome.

 

Anyone with a family history of heart disease especially high cholesterol that is tough to respond to diet and exercise may think about being tested for APOE4.  The sooner you get on the right diet, the better your odds will be to lower your risk for a disease no one wants.  

 

If anyone is curious about Alzheimer's and APOE4, Dr. Dale Bredesen and Dr Steve Gundry have very nice YouTube videos specific to APOE4 and its connection to this disease and what people can do to limit their risk.  Dr. Bredesen also has a book called "The End of Alzheimers" which is an in depth look at what the current thinking is and a program which could possibly help you if you are in the at risk categories or think you might be.   

   

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I cant seem to post it, but ,BBC has an article about Herpes virus  causing Alzheimer's, in elderly people

 

Taiwan is have some very good results  with the work that is being done in this arena

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The herpes virus could account for at least half of Alzheimer's cases, according to a new review of the findings of three recent studies examining links between Alzheimer's and herpes.

herpex simplex diagnosis concept photo
 
Infection with the herpes simplex virus may boost the likelihood of developing Alzheimer's, researchers suggest.

The new paper, published in the Frontiers in Ageing Neuroscience journal, also suggests that antiviral drugs may reduce the risk of senile dementia — which is mostly caused by Alzheimer's disease — among people who have severe cases of herpes.

Herpes simplex virus 1 (HSV1) is the type of herpes that results in cold sores.

HSV1 is a common virus, and the majority of people will have contracted it by the time they reach old age.

However, the virus remains permanently in the body and cannot be decisively removed either by the body's natural defense mechanisms or by drugs.

 

The virus is inactive most of the time, but when a person has HSV1, they may find that flare-ups occur when they are stressed or sick, resulting in characteristic blisters.

Medical News Today have reported on several studies this year alone that have provided evidence of a connection between Alzheimer's and herpes.

In June, we looked at a study in which postmortem tests on brain tissue support a mechanistic link between Alzheimer's and the herpes viruses HHV-6A and HHV-7.

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@cherry   I like Dr. Marshall's recommendations and they are what you will see from the latest research although I am in the camp of no alcohol at all because of the high sugar in the wine.  

 

As far as viruses, the thinking on that is that the plaques and tangles associated with Alzheimers may actually be the brain trying to protect itself.  Viruses like the herpes strain that causes cold sores settle close to the nasal opening which is a direct conduit to the brain bypassing most of your immune system.

 

They are finding that APOE4 people may have a "leaky brain" which means that all kinds of microorganisms are getting past the blood brain barrier where they should not be and the plaques that you hear about may be the brain's response to that kind of invasion.

 

Lots of theories out there and I find it interesting stuff.  

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I don't drink @Laura14  so it is never a consideration for me..There is interesting findings about low carbs on my new diabetes thread

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Thanks @cherry !  I will go check it out.  Smiley Happy

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Doesn’t surprise me the Internet who claim low-carb is the 

prescription for T2Diabetes is the same who are pushing back

with Alzheimers. And reversing T2Diabetes is immediate w/ low fat PB

which would help w/ Alzheimers. But the Public is sold bad

nutritional information. And so many believe it...and remain sick.

 

Alzheimers is now being called Type 3 Diabetes or Brain Diabetes and

T2Diabetes is being referred to as ‘Alzheimers of the Pancreas.’

 

It’s all connected.

And luckily those who educate themselves will quickly learn 

that a low fat, plant based diet (which our long-living ancestors ate)

is the foundation for Good Health.  

 

Even the CDC says (which was referenced in a post upthread):

 

  • Researchers are studying whether education, diet, and environment play a role in developing Alzheimer’s disease.
  • Scientists are finding more evidence that some of the risk factors for heart disease and stroke, such as high blood pressure and high cholesterol may also increase the risk of Alzheimer’s

    disease.

  • There is growing evidence that physical, mental, and social activities may reduce the risk of Alzheimer’s disease.

Diet is the biggest, most common fix to this whole thing.

 

Fix the diet,

 

T2Diabetes will reduce/reverse

High Blood pressure will be eliminated

High Cholesterol will be be eliminated

Stroke risks will be greatly reduce/eliminated

Blood flow will be better to allow better brain health

 

....all with a small change to your dinner plate.

 

Low Carb Animal Based = sick

High Carb Low Fat Plant Based = health

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