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Thankfully, I did get a downstairs room. I asked the clerk if he would take my small bags downstairs, and thank God I did. I could barely get downstairs with my purse & iPad. This must be what it's like to have the after-effects of polio.  So scary!

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@Moonchilde  I  sincerely doubt, that spacedoc was not in the top physical condition ,and he suffrered terribly from statins

 

Here are his credentials, and they are most impressive ones

 

https://www.spacedoc.com/articles/biography

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@Moonchilde wrote:

Thanks, @LilacTree

 

I worked in the medical field for 47 years, and I Just Said No to statins for decades. It's only because I moved, have a new doctor, and he was so insistent that I said yes - plus I had no idea the reaction could be delayed. I assumed if it didn't show up right away I was okay.  And I know, by what he's already said, plus the fact that he gave me a lowest dose, that he'll refuse to believe it's the statin - especially because I have sciatica and have had PT for it. This is VERY different-feeling to that. But I doubt I'll get any help from him.


@Moonchilde

I get criticized often because I don't just blindly take meds prescribed for me by doctors (not saying you did).  However, I have been steadfast all of my life in taking meds . . . long before patients started questioning doctors.  I've never been really healthy (had rheumatic fever at age 14, along with scarlet fever and mono and had to be hospitalized, missed a year of school, etc.). 

 

Because of that I have always been reluctant to take chances with my health, and I began to become very interested in medicine.  Had it been a different time, I feel sure I would have gone into the medical field myself. 

 

Before the technology of today, I used to order both the Mayo Clinic and Merck annual medical books, and read them cover to cover, often.  What I learned early on in my 20s and 30s was to always question, ask why . . . because a lot of medicine as a whole is trial and error.  It's still that way. 

 

As a result, I take few meds for all the symptoms I have.  I could be on 20 by now if I was taking all the meds prescribed for me by various specialists in the last two decades.  I am not recommending that, by any means.  We're all different.  But if I make it past 80 and maybe beyond, I will feel that I made the right decisions.

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@cherry wrote:

@Moonchilde  I  sincerely doubt, that spacedoc was not in the top physical condition ,and he suffrered terribly from statins

 

Here are his credentials, and they are most impressive ones

 

https://www.spacedoc.com/articles/biography


 

 

I did see his credentials at the bottom of the article, so it's not like he's a clueless doddering family doc ;-)

 

I wasn't actually disputing what hckynut was saying, I'm sure it's pretty correct. But silly me, I have a habit of thinking when someone posts in a thread they're customarily addressing your issue, not the general public's.

 

I don't see any point in saying, in effect, "I don't know about your issue, but here's my thought on something different." WT*?  As would be my usual, I responded that his post wasn't relevant to me - and that's all I did. His canned response about "those who know me understand that's how I post and most of them appreciate it" doesn't mean I have to acknowledge that feel it's a logical way to post.

 

I usually ignore or discount his posts because most of them across the forums are like that - "I don't know, but here's what I think anyway..." Fair enough, I don't need to post with him, so that's cool. But since this is a thread I started out of my current need and he ignored that/has no personal experience with it, and went on to post His Own Thing - I saw no reason not to express that I didn't feel his post was relevant to me. And he needed (apparently) to express that I don't get or appreciate his great wisdom meant for the masses, and he doesn't appreciate me.  LOL.

 

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

More rain and wind today and tomorrow, putting any possible power repairs further back. No estimate at all. Sooooooo frustrating. I just called a neighbor and no answer so either no power or she's with friends - most likely both.

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@LilacTree  Great post.  I was very much the same:  would always purchase the new editions of Merck and read them. I am respectfully skeptical.  I left you a message in the Lyme thread.  

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@LilacTree  Great post.  I was very much the same:  would always purchase the new editions of Merck and read them. I am respectfully skeptical.  I left you a message in the Lyme thread.  


@sassenach1

Thanks, sassenach.  I will look through the Lyme thread for your post!

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@Moonchilde, there's hope for us yet.... I walked the mall and although I took some breaks to sit on a bench, I had much less pain and was certainly doing better.

 

As far as John's post about having muscle tone and these are the people without the side effects. I was a dancer in my youth and in extremely good physical condition. I am also a gym nut and could match any 20 year old in strength and endurance. When I had a nuclear scan 7 years ago with the treadmill test before my heart attack they told me I had the heart of a 20 year old. So muscle strength had nothing to do with why statins do not work for me. I think we are all very different.....

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Thanks, @Trinity11 :-)

 

I'd be the first to say athletic I'm not, but this is so very different, as you know. For me - out of nowhere and shocking in its intensity.  

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@Moonchilde wrote:

Thanks, @Trinity11 :-)

 

I'd be the first to say athletic I'm not, but this is so very different, as you know. For me - out of nowhere and shocking in its intensity.  


Well, today I have some hope because I was able to walk without that serious pain. My husband who body-builds noticed the enormous difference in my endurance. He believes that statins are poison and although his cholesterol is 220, he refused to take them.

 

I hope in the next few days you get some relief. I know the feeling.....and I have been fighting a kidney infection and on antibiotics and still was better able to walk today without the statins. I have tried 4 times to take them. I am done now....whatever happens happens. Like yourself I would rather have my mobility and ability to get around.

 

Keep us posted how you are feeling....

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Hi to you this weekend @Trinity11.

 

Just a slight clarification of my 1st very long winded post. If I didn't rank them by priority, I will do so now.

 

While I did say "muscle strength", I also mentioned what I view as just as important, maybe even moreso when it comes to muscle spasms/cramps. That would be the "muscle and connective tissue, flexibility".

 

As a dancer, and the decade makes a huge difference, if it was in the 1960's or even the 1970's. Even professional athletes were not believers when it came to the importance stretching and the importance of doing so. Even "warmups" were seldom seen on a football field or a hockey rink at pre-game.

 

Look at any of these sports nowadays and you will see a whole lot of stretching during almost any sport before the actual competition begins. 

 

In the early 1960's I knew little to nothing about stretching. When I took up running later in that decade, and was having all kinda of painful issues, I decided it was time for me to start digging into sports Physiology. There was little to find, but I kept looking until I came to things books by Joseph Pilates.

 

That opened my eyes and ended much of my painful muscle and tendon issues. It was many years after I started and set up routines for my sports activities. I improvised what I read in those books, but changed them enough to suit my specific muscle groups and tendons.

 

Anyways, just wanted to add this clarification to my other post. I also spent lots of time at body building contests over the years, and I can tell you from talking with many of the top ones in my area, they knew absolutely nothing about stretching, and some were adamant against doing it. They felt "elongating" would decrease the muscle size and shape, thus be detrimental to their goals.

 

During those years their only interests were Size/Definition and nothing more. It was long before "vascularity" even entered the body building world. There were however many using steroids, which I thought was nuts, even by then. I think it was Dianabol at that era of time.

 

You seem to be getting better each time I read about your progress and that always makes me smile a little bigger. I think you know me well enough to understand my purposes for visiting this forum, I just want to put more emphasis on that particular part of my post.

 

My best to you always,

 

 

 

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