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SGB Stellate Ganglion Block for PTSD🇺🇸

On 60 Minutes last weekend, there was a story concerning a promising treatment for PTSD!

 

The treatment involves a patient receiving an infusion of a type of medicine and is called a SGB (Stellate Ganglion Block.)

 

The decorated marine being treated on the show felt like a huge weight had been lifted after only two minutes.

 

The Army is going to fund clinical trials for PTSD treated in this manner.

 

From the article by cbsnews

 

“Dr. Mulvaney stumbled onto SGB 10 years ago.

He'd read a newspaper article about a treatment for – of all things – hot flashes -- that targeted the same nerve signals that ptsd disrupts. So he tried it. Since then he's done about 1000 injections: he found 70 per cent of the soldiers he treated had reduced anxiety and paranoia.”

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Re: SGB Stellate Ganglion Block for PTSD🇺🇸

How very hopeful. My dh suffers from PSTD along with

anxiety disorder and bipolar. Not an easy way to live.

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Re: SGB Stellate Ganglion Block for PTSD🇺🇸

Hate to see more drugs/medical procedures as

being the answer to PTSD.

 

Meditation, Transcendental Meditation in particular,

has research behind the benefits..all without invasive drugs.

And I believe for veterans..it’s free learning the process.

Highly recommend.

 

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Re: SGB Stellate Ganglion Block for PTSD🇺🇸

@iMW 

 

I’m so very sorry! 

My sympathy goes out to both of you and yours.

I will continue to hope for hope.

 

@sidsmom 

 

We may have to agree to disagree.

The doctor on 60 Minutes said that war situations (concussive blasts) changes the wiring in the brain causing it to be permanently wired to respond 

 

These nerves help control the brain's fight or flight reactions, signals that go haywire with PTSD.” [the article]

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/sgb-a-possible-breakthrough-treatment-for-ptsd-60-minutes-2019-06-1...

 

I do believe in the benefits of TM and feel that should be included in treatment.

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Re: SGB Stellate Ganglion Block for PTSD🇺🇸

A behavioral technique is learned once & used for a lifetime

and it’s provided free for veterans. Much like a 

‘teach a man to fish & he’ll eat for a lifetime’.

 

Someone profits from our veterans with expensive procedures

and drugs used every day.

 

Follow the money.

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Re: SGB Stellate Ganglion Block for PTSD🇺🇸

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@sidsmom wrote:

A behavioral technique is learned once & used for a lifetime

and it’s provided free for veterans. Much like a 

‘teach a man to fish & he’ll eat for a lifetime’.

 

Someone profits from our veterans with expensive procedures

and drugs used every day.

 

Follow the money.


Why ask a veteran to exclude “ interfering “ stimuli, a process that allows the traumatic memories to amplify .  If meditation worked there would be no need for further research.  They’ve tried it, the vets passively endure the fumbling of these clueless practitioners dismissing their nonsense once they ( WE) are free of their influence.   We’re selected  for aptitude, responsiveness, trained to be acutely , “situationally aware “ and programmed to take swift, decisive action . Military personnel are uniformly predisposed to PTSD and your lives depend on it.

 

Please save the platitudes for less serious conditions, those you may actually be qualified to assess and pontificate about. If you are seriously concerned about your vets, help promote and fund real scientific investigation of real antidotes.

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If meditation worked....

It does. 

There are many studies proving TM does have positive conclusions.

TM has been around since the 50’s but silent meditation

and religious prayer has been used for millennia.

 

”...help promote and fund real scientific investigation...”

I do.

I donate to the David Lynch Foundation’s Operation Warrior Wellness.

AND

I also pay good money to these invasive ‘studies’ which have

no long-term outcomes, full of promises.

It’s called my taxpayer money. 

 

So we all have a vested interested in this story.

I just want my money to be used wisely for things that will help,

not to pad someone’s bank account while giving our most

vulnerable false hopes.  I want the Best for our veterans. 

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Military personnel are the ultimate taxpayers aren’t they.  Who better to inform you of the efficacy of a treatment than the recipient of the treatment.  75% of the homeless in larger cities are vets.  Vets fill whole wings of veteran hospitals devoted to psychiatric disorders .  If prayer and pie in the sky meditation,  and Mindfulness worked those wings could be converted to physical rehabilitation and pain management facilities, services woefully lacking in even the best of the Veterans Administration Healthcare System. 

 

Truth  is what it is not what we want it to be.

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Re: SGB Stellate Ganglion Block for PTSD🇺🇸


@CoG wrote:

Military personnel are the ultimate taxpayers aren’t they.  Who better to inform you of the efficacy of a treatment than the recipient of the treatment.  75% of the homeless in larger cities are vets.  Vets fill whole wings of veteran hospitals devoted to psychiatric disorders .  If prayer and pie in the sky meditation,  and Mindfulness worked those wings could be converted to physical rehabilitation and pain management facilities, services woefully lacking in even the best of the Veterans Administration Healthcare System. 

 

Truth  is what it is not what we want it to be.


@CoG 

 

The truth is that non-pharmaceutical therapies are used with much success

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6086130/

 

A friend of mine uses a particular yoga therapy with veterans  It is not a "pie in the sky" approach.

 

Does it work alone with all vets?  No, of course not.  But for many, yes, it does.

 

 

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Re: SGB Stellate Ganglion Block for PTSD🇺🇸

DH has suffered with PTSD since Vietnam. He’s learned to cope with it most of the time through faith and prayer. Meds never helped or made it worse. However, I am not going to tell someone what they should or should not try to treat their PTSD - to do so would be inappropriate.