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@BalletBabe wrote:

@proudlyfromNJ  Well that sounds easy, but when your Dr is basically saying that he gets a good grade for doing it , it puts pressure on me.  I don't appreciate that.   Or is it th Clinic that he is in that wants it?   $$$$$$$$$$


@BalletBabe. My Dr. has never said anything like that to me. Although she is not in a clinic. She is on her own. Every visit she will ask about colonoscopy and some other things. I say no and she says ok that she needs to ask me. I just tell her, no problem.

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@BalletBabe wrote:

@proudlyfromNJ  Well that sounds easy, but when your Dr is basically saying that he gets a good grade for doing it , it puts pressure on me.  I don't appreciate that.   Or is it th Clinic that he is in that wants it?   $$$$$$$$$$


@BalletBabe. My Dr. has never said anything like that to me. Although she is not in a clinic. She is on her own. Every visit she will ask about colonoscopy and some other things. I say no and she says ok that she needs to ask me. I just tell her, no problem.


@proudlyfromNJ  Sounds like a Dr I would like!

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@151949@proudlyfromNJ@sfnative@LilacTree@CelticCrafter

 

Found this post online---It is long but funny and so true    Has me LOL

 

The Affordable Care Act (ACA), or Obamacare, includes several benefits for Medicare beneficiaries including a Welcome to Medicare Wellness Visit.

This is not a substitute for a more extensive physicial exam but a way for your physician to ask some questions about your health and work with you to develop or update a plan to prevent disease.

I was reminded of this recently when my internet friend, Chuck Nyren, published a report at his Huffington Post blog (where he describes himself as “Writer, Gadfly, Troublemaker”) about his first wellness visit.

It was a good reminder to me to tell you about it but on second thought, why reinvent the wheel, I thought. Besides, Chuck is a funnier guy than I am and he gave me permission to reprint his story titled Welcome to Your Welcome to Medicare Visit. Here's Chuck.

 

* * *

 

I didn’t ask if it was mandatory when this lady called, I just said, “Yeah, yeah, I’ll do it.” A free exam of some sort because you’re now sixty-five was what she wanted me to schedule. I did.

She said it wouldn’t be with my doctor but with a health care professional. I was only half listening. “And the best part is you can spend a whole hour with her! Not like with your Provider where you’re only allowed fifteen minutes.”

My egoism got the better of me. A whole hour talking about me, and if I’m not talking about me the other person is talking about me. That sounded great.

On my way to the appointment I tried to think of things to talk about. My arthritic knees had been overly achy lately but for the last few days had been fine. Other than that, I felt pretty good. It was weird going to the doctor when there was nothing wrong with you.

A nurse called my name. I was weighed, had pounded up a bit over the winter. I’ll lose it. Blood pressure was high a tad, lungs and heart sounded good. She shook out an octopus array of wires and I had a quick EKG. Heart = Fine. The nurse left and I spent a few minutes yanking off the stickies from crannies on my torso I never knew existed.

Marlene knocked and entered. “Welcome to your Welcome To Medicare Wellness Exam!”

“Thanks!” I said. I was chipper. She was chipper. We were chipper.

“Over the weekend I spent some time looking over your medical history,” she said.

“So that’s why my ears were burning!”

She readied herself to type. “Is there something wrong with your ears?”

“Ummm, no. A little wax, maybe.”

She typed something.

After documenting the faux affliction, we got to the real ones. I’d had some issues over the last few years, mostly one-offs like an episode of gout, shingles, a fainting spell (documented here on Huffington Post), some panic attacks years ago that still ambush me every so often.

The rest were namby-pamby boring stuff — none worthy of even a mention in a TV medical drama. A kidney stone fifteen years ago, psoriasis on and off. With every affliction mentioned, she typed and typed.

“It says you have cancer in your family.”

“Yes. Here and there.”

“Any family history of heart problems?”

“No.”

“Diabetes?”

“A brother and a grandmother. You probably see there that I took a bunch of blood tests a few months ago and everything was normal except my triglycerides were a bit high.”

 

We went through my medications. “Do you still take Cialis?”

“...Sure, when needed. Although I don’t really need it. If I take it it’s only a nick off the pill to counteract the very small, daily dose of Zoloft. If a hotsy-totsy night is planned, it just makes things a lot easier for, you know...everyone involved.”

She typed something.

There was talk about my thyroid. This was the first I’d heard of it. (A blood test was ordered, the next day it came back in the normal range.)

We said our goodbyes and I was out the door with a few pages of hard-copy in my hand. I imagined it read, You’re fine, go home.

I don’t remember exactly where I was when I actually looked at the first page — either outside the car and about to open the door or already in the driver’s seat. It’s all a blur now. Manually highlighted in blinding yellow was this list:

You Were Seen Today For
 History of Adenomatous Polyp of Colon
 Spondylosis Lumbosacral Region, unspecified spinal osteoarthritis complication
 BMI 32.0-32.9, adult
 Thyroid Mass of Unclear Etiology
 Diverticulosis
 Pre-Diabetes
 Hypertriglyceridemia
 Anxiety Disorder
 Insomnia
 ED (erectile dysfunction)
 Essential Hypertension
 Gout
 Cerumen Impaction
 Syncope
 Risk for falls
 History of Nephrolithiasis

 

I have no memory of driving home. I’m surprised I made it home at all because I’m obviously dying.

That was a week ago, and I’m still miraculously hanging on. I’m afraid to move, to breathe. If I do either, it’s done cautiously. Any wrong move might kick in one of my conditions, and I’ll kick.

I walk into the doctor’s office with bad knees. I walk out with a Death Sentence.

My new take on medical visits: Fifteen minutes is much too long. Who knows what could happen during such an excruciating amount of time. From now on I want my appointments to be no more than thirty seconds, maybe less. They’d go something like this:

Doctor walks in. “What’s wrong?”

“Sore throat.”

“Open and say “Aahhh.”

“Aahhh.”

“I’ll write up a prescription and you can pick it up at the front desk. ‘Bye.”

“Later.”

The less I know, the healthier I’ll feel.

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Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself and us that you don't need it. So don't but to think there is some big conspiracy is wrong.

 

There are reasons why they do this so it becomes preventative not until there is an issue. As we see here some  choose to not do anything until it catastrophic. That is sad.

 

You said you the dr mentioned you had a questionable EKG this last time and that is why the doctor wants to see you sooner rather than later. Shrug

 

Good luck to you.

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I have said no to some tests and welcome Medicare, but I have been seeing my Doctor every three months for seven years. We are both on top of things.

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@Melania wrote:

Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself and us that you don't need it. So don't but to think there is some big conspiracy is wrong.

 

There are reasons why they do this so it becomes preventative not until there is an issue. As we see here some  choose to not do anything until it catastrophic. That is sad.

 

You said you the dr mentioned you had a questionable EKG this last time and that is why the doctor wants to see you sooner rather than later. Shrug

 

Good luck to you.


@Melania  Thats not what I said at all.  I did not have an EKG in many years.  He knows me well.  I go every 6 months.  I am only trying to find out if others had it, or were pressured to get it.   I justs had a whole blood work up and was there yesterday. You need to read all of my post, not just part of it. 

 

 

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@proudlyfromNJ wrote:

I have said no to some tests and welcome Medicare, but I have been seeing my Doctor every three months for seven years. We are both on top of things.

 

Same with me , I go every 6 months.   It almost seems like a new patient visit.   

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@BalletBabe wrote:

@noodleann  That don't work for me because they think a colonoscopy is necessary.  I DO NOT, AND WILL NOT HAVE IT DONE.    I am so not getting flu or phenumonia shots either.   I haven't been sick for 16 years.  I do my labs and my Mammogram and they always do the BP weight etc.  Go over all meds.  Until I have a problem, I am not interested.

 

Last Phenumonia shot I got my arm swelled and I could not lift it for two weeks.  He told me that was a reaction.  Now for some reason, that is not important.   Last year I broke out in hives after the flu shot.   I am done.  No more. 


I had an unpleasant reaction to the first pneumonia shot I got, too, but my doctor was concerned about my tendency toward infection and wanted me to get another a few years later. She ordered the "baby shot," which is given to children. Didn't feel it and didn't get sick for the two days afterward as I had before. I prefer the shot to having pneumonia.

 

I've had documented influenza twice. It is very frightening because you get sick so quickly, and I ran a very high fever and just could not wake up. A friend had to drag me to the ER. Took months to fully recover my energy. If you ever get it, you may change your mind, and hopefully by then they'll have a flu shot formulation that agrees with you.

 

If the doctor feels a colonoscopy is necessary, I'm assuming it's because of something in your personal or family history that suggests there's an increased risk of colon cancer. Or if you did an occult test and it came back positive, that's another reason. What's not justified, IMO, is screening based on age alone. That isn't "necessary." But you didn't specify.

 

If, though, there are serious reasons for the doctor wanting you to have this test and you still refuse to get it, you could expect the doctor to release you as a patient and refuse to see you in the future. It doesn't sound as if you'd mind, but be aware that getting another PCP may not be easy.


@noodleann  No colonoscopy is recommended for everyone at age 50.  I have no problems and no family history of it.  I guess I feel this way.  None of us are getting out of this world alive.   I could schedule a colonoscopy and get killed driving there in my car.  We never know.    I know 2 people that died having that test and I will never do it unless I am having a problem. I feel this is my body and it is my choice.  I love my Dr.don't get me wrong, but I think so much is done because they are so afraid of getting sued.   

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@151949  I agree about the cardiologist.  This would be done by my PCP.    To me a waste of time and money.  I believe that for any problem, you need a specialist.   I have been misdiagnosed too many times by a PCP.  This is why I will never agree to a HMO.  I will not be told when I can go and mess with referrals.  

 

My PCP  (a different one)  had seen me for a knee issue.  He ordered an MRI and a bunch of xrays and then sent me to the Orthopedic Dr.  Ortho Dr says I didn't need the MRI and x-rays were taken wrong and had to retake.   I will not go to a GP for any issues like that again.

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I had one visit with my long-time regular medical group after my Medicare went into effect. At no point was any Wellness anything mentioned to me, nor done; it would have been stupid as I'd been a patient there for 8-10 years.

 

When I moved and had a new patient exam, they took my history orally, took my list of meds, and had no interest in obtaining records from my previous doctors. They also documented most of it incorrectly and the doctor didn't seem interested in correcting anything when I pointed it out. Since then, he'll be referring to my chart, going over previous visits, and I'd be "No, that's not correct" and give the correct response, and apparently when I was immunized and what for is considered irrelevant, among other things that were incorrect. Not a word has ever been said about a "welness" exam, although I suppose they could have billed it that way and I'd never know (or care).

 

Fortunately although I have chronic issues, I rarely have acute anything. If I had more serious issues going on, I'd be looking farther afield for another group and another doctor. Huge medical groups serving too many patients=substandard, disinterested medicine IMO.

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