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 @SilleeMee 

 

Thanks for the great explanation. My bones weren't particularly "brittle" to my knowledge prior to the woman T-boning my car. The Forteo worked in 18 months, rather than the possible 24 months - and my physicians and I were all grateful for that. I've never felt like bones were brittle, but as a result of that accident I certainly was in severe pain and the special back brace was not doing much good (other than offering support).

 

I do feel it's prudent to follow my Rheumatologist's advice with Prolia for the rest of my life. He also has been treating me for Lupus and RA for many years. He's an excellent, knowledgeable physician and I trust him thoroughly. Additionally, he continues to do research in addition to his practice of medicine! Not many physicians care enough about their area of medicine to devote time and energy to research and writing their findings. Maybe, just maybe, his lab will develop the next best miracle drug or preventive method for Lupus or "brittle" bones. Who knows? Smiley Wink

 

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My mother had severe osteoporosis.  She took medications that her doctor prescribed but I'm not sure what it was.  It really didn't seem to help much.

 

When she was 88 she was out with a friend at a local casino and a man came running up from behind her not paying attention and stumbled and fell on top of my mother.  She had several broken bones including a broken neck.  Her doctor said that the bones in her neck resembled a shattered mirror.

 

She wore a neck brace for over a year and was finally able to get by without it.  (She hated wearing it!).  However she recovered somewhat for her age....well enough to get by for a few more years.

 

She also had severe hearing loss and I asked her if she ever asked a doctor why.  She didn't but when I went with her to her appointment to the audiologist I asked if she had any idea why my mother's hearing had declined so much.  She mentioned a possibility was the osteoporosis.

 

She said that the inner ear has fine bones that could have been affected by the osteoporosis which would cause hearing loss.  So that brings up another question, why did she have severe osteoporosis?

 

I did a bit of research and found out that taking a high does of statins for a prolonged period of time could cause osteoporosis.  It seems like several medications including steroids can do this.

 

My mother had taken a high dose statin for decades so maybe it contributed to her bone loss.

 

As for me I'm going to look into the suggestion of @SilleeMee about silica supplements.  

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One other important mineral associated with bone health is potassium. That one has a lot to do with loss of calcium from bones caused by osteoclastic acid production where potassium neutralizes the acid so it doesn't dissolve bones into releasing calcium out the body.

 

Many people do not take in enough potassium in their diet or the food that they eat is not absorbed, especially as we age. Potassium deficiency can be monitored through blood testing but the problem with that is blood tests only provide blood levels and that's not a true picture of total body potassium levels. 

 

Low potassium can present itself as  high BP, dry eyes, hearing loss/tinnitus, muscle cramps, dizziness, constipation and even dry mouth...basically things that have to do with hydration in the body. Many of those conditions can go unnoticed as being something connected to low potassium and is difficult to diagnose w/o an actual biopsy...who does that? 

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@SilleeMee wrote:

One other important mineral associated with bone health is potassium. That one has a lot to do with loss of calcium from bones caused by osteoclastic acid production where potassium neutralizes the acid so it doesn't dissolve bones into releasing calcium out the body.

 

Many people do not take in enough potassium in their diet or the food that they eat is not absorbed, especially as we age. Potassium deficiency can be monitored through blood testing but the problem with that is blood tests only provide blood levels and that's not a true picture of total body potassium levels. 

 

Low potassium can present itself as  high BP, dry eyes, hearing loss/tinnitus, muscle cramps, dizziness, constipation and even dry mouth...basically things that have to do with hydration in the body. Many of those conditions can go unnoticed as being something connected to low potassium and is difficult to diagnose w/o an actual biopsy...who does that? 


@SilleeMee So taking potassium supplement would most likely help us all in the long run.  The brand Bulk Supplements also has a potassium available....citrate or gluconate.  Do you take a potassium supplement along with the Silicon Dioxide?  

 

Thinking could just add some of these in my morning yogurt and would be covered.

 

 

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@tsavorite wrote:

@SilleeMee wrote:

One other important mineral associated with bone health is potassium. That one has a lot to do with loss of calcium from bones caused by osteoclastic acid production where potassium neutralizes the acid so it doesn't dissolve bones into releasing calcium out the body.

 

Many people do not take in enough potassium in their diet or the food that they eat is not absorbed, especially as we age. Potassium deficiency can be monitored through blood testing but the problem with that is blood tests only provide blood levels and that's not a true picture of total body potassium levels. 

 

Low potassium can present itself as  high BP, dry eyes, hearing loss/tinnitus, muscle cramps, dizziness, constipation and even dry mouth...basically things that have to do with hydration in the body. Many of those conditions can go unnoticed as being something connected to low potassium and is difficult to diagnose w/o an actual biopsy...who does that? 


@SilleeMee So taking potassium supplement would most likely help us all in the long run.  The brand Bulk Supplements also has a potassium available....citrate or gluconate.  Do you take a potassium supplement along with the Silicon Dioxide?  

 

Thinking could just add some of these in my morning yogurt and would be covered.

 

 


 

 

@tsavorite 

Many people have low potassium levels. I read something like 98% of us don't get enough of it. Food rich in potassium is not always consumed in quantities to get enough so yes supplementation would be helpful but it must be taken with caution. There can be drug interference plus other things which might not be wise to take it. Talk with your doctor about it first.

 

 

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@SilleeMee wrote:

@rockygems123 

I buy Bulksupplements brand silicon dioxide powder from Amazon. That's 100% pure silica and I take 1/4-teaspoon daily by adding it to my green drink. 

 

Bulksupplements.com Silicon Dioxide Powder - 500 Grams


Ordered this over the weekend and WOW there is alot in this bag for such a small price!  I am thinking it will last me for yrs LOL!  I had run out of the bamboo capsules I was using and thought 100% pure sounds much better.  Put it in my yogurt this morning.

 

Thanks for this product recommendation....I will wait on adding in potassium supplement as I have my annual with doctor in 10days and can discuss it then.

 

I do have osteopenia and it has remained the same since my very 1st DEXA at age 50.  So I believe I never was in the normal range prior as meno is when rapid bone loss happens to most.  If I can manage to maintain at the same zone or improve it by next years scan that would be awesome as a safe plan going forward.

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@tsavorite 

Regarding the potassium supp, I was curious about how much of my diet contained it and so I started keeping track of the food I was eating and it turned out that I was not consuming enough potassium.

 

Most of the literature I've been reading about potassium supps say that you don't need them b/c you get enough of it from the food you eat. That is certainly not the case for me and it makes me wonder about other peoples' diets as well. It just doesn't seem possible to consume enough potassium in food alone. I would have to eat gobs of stuff I don't normally eat to get enough potassium. Keeping a food record in the past few weeks was a real eye-opener for me.

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@SilleeMee Oh yes so true!  I used to use Cronometer to log absolutely everything I ate each day and I never came close to their recommended amount for potassium.  I am thinking that supplementing a small amount will be ok for me but will run that amount with my log by the doctor just to see what she thinks.  

 

I tried before using a electrolyte product...you would scoop it out but that just did not agree with my stomach.  I seem to have a issue with those flavored products that have stevia.  That stuff makes me sick.  Thinking a pill form low dose is the way I will try getting a small amount extra.