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11-06-2019 07:39 PM
I’ve always known about nightshades.
I used to get vitamin infusions ( much like you see people on TV getting them).
You are also supposed to be cautious on how many from that family you consume if you have arthritis.
11-06-2019 07:42 PM
My sister has gout, and cherry juice was one of the things that was supposed to offer some help to her
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Cherries, apples, and sugar beets also contain small amounts of glycoalkaloid even though they are not nightshades.
She said it was so bitter she couldn't drink it. I told her to cut it with something like gingerale or 7up
Hi cherry.The cherry juice has both scientific and anecdotal evidence of its ability to help with gout pain. It works. After learning of this, I tried the tart cherry juice for three months for general aches and pains and for lumbar spinal pain. I wish I could say that I noticed a difference but I didn’t. I will try again. There were two brands I tried., Knudsens and Lakewood. I told my friend about it and she tried it but she found out she has a food sensitivity to this and she become ill. By the way, one brand of the cherry juice tasted much better than the other. I think it was the Knudsen’s.
11-06-2019 07:44 PM
novamac, this is turning into a great thread here on the Wllness forum. We are having an open exchange of ideas, learning from each other and sharing our experiences and research. We’re also leaning some very interesting stuff.
11-07-2019 12:11 PM - edited 11-07-2019 01:30 PM
@GingerPeach wrote:As you both have science and/or research/reporting backgrounds, have you ever come across more data on the below article from 2010? It discusses a promising new remedy for auto-immune disease, without many, if any, side-effects. All that is much different from existing biologics and other remedies, which are all non-specific and cause one's body to be less resistant to infection.
I've not had luck in finding updates. I even contacted the reporter, who was no help at all. Neither was my own rheumatologist, who only referred me to some Stanford researchers (who are not doing this work).
This is a link to a full text if the actual study. It was conducted in mice. The chief researcher is so prolific in scientific publishing it will take time to sort through all of his work to see which work piggy backs on this one.
11-07-2019 12:32 PM
@ALRATIBA wrote:I've had surgery ... no one ever said anything about avoiding specfic foods.
For surgeries or invasive procedures, I have never had anyone tell me to avoid very specific foods. As I mentioned in my other post, eating no solids 2-3 days pre-surgery/invasive procedure, has worked great for me. That, and I've lost count of the number i have had since 2002.
When i find something that works well for me physically and mentally, why would i change? New findings might help those where anesthesia is problematic for them. If so, new info might be just the thing, or maybe not!
hckynut
11-07-2019 12:45 PM
@Annabellethecat66 wrote:I’ve always known about nightshades.
I used to get vitamin infusions ( much like you see people on TV getting them).
You are also supposed to be cautious on how many from that family you consume if you have arthritis.
From what I have read in this and other posts in this thread, i should either be dead or all my joints should be frozen stiff. Obviously i am not dead, yet anyways, and with multiple parts of my body with arthritis, almost inflexible. I am however very flexible in every joint in spite of eating many of these foods and arthritic.
Everyone is different, but from what I have read in this thread, I must be waaaaay out there by myself!
hckynut
11-07-2019 01:30 PM
Thanks for looking into this, @Mindy D
I did not think it would have become finalized any time soon, but was hoping for some progress from the full study linked at the bottom of the original article.
11-07-2019 02:19 PM
@Mindy D wrote:Since we’re on the subject of harmful plant material I’d like to mention a few tidbits:
1. Don’t eat star fruit (carambola) if you have kidney problems.
2. Don’t eat apple seeds (when crushed, accidentally swallowing one whole seed might not make you sick, but I’d call poison control and check), apricot (some cultures do mix small amounts of the pit with other spices, I wouldn’t try it unless I knew much more about this) or peach pits, cherry pits.
3. Never eat raw or undercooked beans (especially red kidney beans), lentils, chick peas, soy beans. Raw legumes contain lectins. After you soak your lectins, throw out the soaking water to reduce the lectin content. You’re not losing vitamins. You’re reducing your intake of toxins. Replace with new water and thoroughly cook. Some testing of consumption of raw foods that contain lectins showed differing amounts harm from other foods with the same lectin content.
4. Don’t eat the green part of nightshade plants.
5. Never eat raw yucca.
6. Never eat raw tarrow leaves or root.
7. Avoid eating raw Rhubarb, all parts.
8. Avoid eating raw cassava, also called manioc.
How can you eat raw beans? They're hard as rocks uncooked.
11-07-2019 02:33 PM
@hckynut wrote:
@ALRATIBA wrote:I've had surgery ... no one ever said anything about avoiding specfic foods.
For surgeries or invasive procedures, I have never had anyone tell me to avoid very specific foods. As I mentioned in my other post, eating no solids 2-3 days pre-surgery/invasive procedure, has worked great for me. That, and I've lost count of the number i have had since 2002.
When i find something that works well for me physically and mentally, why would i change? New findings might help those where anesthesia is problematic for them. If so, new info might be just the thing, or maybe not!
hckynut
If you’re not eating anything; then you are not eating potatoes, so you are already avoiding them just before surgery. All the reasearch with potatoes shows is that ingestion might slow down clearing of the paralytic, succinylcholine, from your system following surgery. This slow down isn’t very significant and wouldn’t hurt you even if it occurred, moreover, there have been no large scale studies to confirm the findings of the two studies mentioned in this thread. This is one reason why the practice of avoiding potato ingestion isn’t suggested by anesthesiologists. Another reason is that the change in the rate rate of clearing of the paralytic might be neglible and not warrant any action to deter patients from ingestion of potatoes. Most anesthesiologists are probably unaware of these studies anyway. Just follow whatever pre-surgical prep the surgeon advises and you will be fine. If I were you, I would tell the surgeon that you don’t eat for two to three days before any surgery and I would ask if this practice is OK with him or her.
11-07-2019 02:37 PM - edited 11-07-2019 03:29 PM
@hckynut wrote:
@Annabellethecat66 wrote:I’ve always known about nightshades.
I used to get vitamin infusions ( much like you see people on TV getting them).
You are also supposed to be cautious on how many from that family you consume if you have arthritis.
From what I have read in this and other posts in this thread, i should either be dead or all my joints should be frozen stiff. Obviously i am not dead, yet anyways, and with multiple parts of my body with arthritis, almost inflexible. I am however very flexible in every joint in spite of eating many of these foods and arthritic.
Everyone is different, but from what I have read in this thread, I must be waaaaay out there by myself!
hckynut
There is no scientific evidence that ingestion of nightshades causes inflammation and hurts your joints. There are a couple of studies that show ingestion of fried potato skins inflames the intestines in patients with colitis. It seems the same information is just so frequently repeated, ad nauseum, until people (including some medical professionals) believe it’s fact. In fact, if you look back through the thread you will see that the little research there is shows a BENEFIT with regard to ingestion of these foods. Followers of this anti nightshades trend are just jumping on the bandwagon with insufficient evidence to show this avoidance is necessary.
What is necessary is avoidance of the green parts of these plants, such as stems and leaves and avoidance by persons with allergies to these foods.
hckynut, here is one study showing the ANTI-INFLAMMATORY, beneficial, properties of potatoes. Inflammation is MEASUREABLE; using the measurement of specific markers present in the body.
✅”Pigmented potato consumption reduced inflammation and DNA damage in healthy adult males. This offers consumers an improved nutritional choice in potato consumption.”
Pigmented potato consumption alter oxidative stress and inflammatory damage in men, Kaspar KL, Park JS, Mathison BD, Navarre DA, Chew. The Journal of Nutrition[24 Nov 2010, 14 (1):108-111]
PMID:21106930
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