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08-03-2019 04:55 PM
@sfnative wrote:
I didn't read any of the responses. However, I know from experience that when clinically depressed the thought of trying to get myself motivated to do the freaking laundry failed each time. As a matter of fact, all household chores paled in importance compared to what was going on in my depressive state.
For those you haven't been there, you simply cannot imagine why those advertisement paint such pictures.
It's a living hell.
08-03-2019 05:04 PM
@sfnative I understand about depression, believe me, I know about depression.
I was raised with an Aunt who would go into very, very deep depression. Back then actually men would come and take her away then eventually, she'd come back to us (shock therapy).
Just about everyone in my family has suffered with depression, so....I know about depression.
THAT wasn't my point. My point was the AVERAGE person doesn't enjoy washing clothes or doing chores....who in the @#$ does? Not me for sure.
I feel like these commercials MINIMIZES depression. Just like many other things in life.
It all gets grouped together. It's not the same. Did you also read where I said how many people go to THEIR Drs and say, "So I think I need to take bla bla".
I don't know about your Drs but mine would say, "Oh! Really? So now you're telling ME what YOU need?"
I go to my Drs because I respect and think they have my best interest.
I've told more of my personal life than most people here. I do that to back up what I say. I think it's an insult to people who really do suffer from depression.
One thing they don't tell you is you can't just take one of these pills when you are feeling depressed here and there. If you stop taking them.....well...it won't be good.
They don't tell you that (like most things) it's a chemical and your body will get used to the chemicals. THAT's a good thing when you are depressed and you need the chemicals that are depleted in your body.
You can't just pop a pill here and there for depression.
So now MAYBE I've explained what I may not have done so well before.
I'm so tired of seeing medicine advertised on TV. It doesn't make sense at all.
I was recently prescribed Cymbalta. I took one (1) pill and got as sick as can be. I told my Dr I wasn't going to take it anymore. She said, "Sometimes it takes as long as 5 to 7 days to not feel bad from it".
I said, "Well, you're treating me for Fibromyalgia". I would rather hurt than take something that says in the brochure that it can be addictive."
She said, "That makes sense. Some people just can't handle it. I've had a few patients that have said something similar. You know your body and it's not life-threatening.....so I agree with you".
I think a person has to be their own advocate. I also think/hope a person has enough sense to know what they can or can't live with.
My brother had bladder cancer for many years. It is very slow moving. Just this year at the age of 82 he decided to have it removed. It had not grown but it was affecting his life. HE made the decision to wait and his Drs at UVA agreed with him.
Going back to this drug. I still say they make it seem like, "So there you are...looking at your pile of dirty clothes....go take one of these pills and you'll be happy._ Ugh!
08-03-2019 07:25 PM
I think 99% of people are smarter than you are giving them credit for.
Thank-you for minimizing the symptoms of depression and people's intelligence.
The drug (commercial) that you hate is called Trintellux.
08-03-2019 11:52 PM
08-04-2019 12:59 AM
@SeaMaiden I laugh at the guy who tries to get his dog to walk with him, and then it looks like he forgot to put his underwear on, and he mowes his lawn in a circle. Not better for the diabetic pen to me, and I kid he probably doesn't even have a dog, and doesn't really work in that office, and its not his yard he is mowing, oheck, he probably is stilll sleeping and he thinks he's doing these things. You have to laugh sometimes or your go bat, ******, crazy !!
08-04-2019 08:51 AM
@BeccaLou wrote:@SeaMaiden I laugh at the guy who tries to get his dog to walk with him, and then it looks like he forgot to put his underwear on, and he mowes his lawn in a circle. Not better for the diabetic pen to me, and I kid he probably doesn't even have a dog, and doesn't really work in that office, and its not his yard he is mowing, oheck, he probably is stilll sleeping and he thinks he's doing these things. You have to laugh sometimes or your go bat, ******, crazy !!
Have to remember they are actors.
What drives me nuts is...in many of the drug commercials,
the cause of their condition is right there in the commercial.
Remove the cause & the drug is not needed.
The comm’l you’re talking about shows this guy pouring MAJOR
amount of oil during cooking. That’s a HUGE contributor of T2D.
08-04-2019 09:10 AM
Normally I enjoy the OP’s posts, but this one not so much. It did come across to me as minimizing depression and it’s life-changing symptoms.
There is a difference between not enjoying doing laundry or going to work...and being so overwhelmed inside that it’s a struggle to get through the normal little tasks of each day.
I believe that is what the commercial is pointing out.
08-04-2019 01:37 PM
@Mary Bailey wrote:IMHO big pharm pushes all Rx. They want people to go to their doctor and specifically ask for a prescription by name, Americans are the guinea pigs for big pharm IMO. To top it off Americans pay among the highest prices for prescriptions.
After hearing all the possible side effects, I avoid at all costs.
AMEN! I take insulin...because I HAVE too...but I avoid Big Pharma at all costs too!!!!!
08-04-2019 01:50 PM
First, I rarely pay attention to commercials. If they annoy you so much, why watch?
Second, it’s great that you have obviously not suffered with clinical depression. Many in my family have, and for some, it began in childhood for no outward reason. It can rob people of energy, motivation, and the ability to do anything. Such things as the laundry you describe or going to work do not cause it, but being unable to get on top of such things may be a manifestation of this potentially deadly disease.
Third, too bad they don’t make an empathy pill so that we all can at least have compassion for others without judging them.
08-04-2019 03:28 PM
OK, I'll address my original post ONE MORE TIME (yes, yelling out of frustration).
First of all, I do not watch many commercials (as I've said over and over and over here) I DVR almost everything so I DON'T have to watch commercials.
However, it is impossible to avoid all of them....impossible, but I try.
We (you, me, everyone) is a compilation of everything that's happened to us, those close to us, etc.
As far as empathy (my what a big often over-used word) goes we have empathy....also...by what has touched our lives as we live/exist.
MY empathy (again, over-used) comes from growing up with several family family who would (today) be diagnosed as bipolar...MY own daughter has been diagnosed as bipolar. Until you live with a young child who suffers with depression, you have no idea about depression. Even when you are suffering from depression yourself, (in my opinion) it's worse. You see someone you love more than life itself and you can only do so much.
Some of you have TOTALLY missed my reason for posting the original post.
Perhaps you (and others) should go back and read it. In no way was my post caustic toward those with depression.
I'll try to break it down as best I can. I'm so over this because I'm tired of attempting to defend the original post.
It was merely an observation that ....ummm...I'm trying to keep it together here...OK, so my post was about even recommending medicine in the first place. As I've said many times, "how many people go to their Drs and say, 'I want to take (remembering the long name of the drug) because I think I need it"? Come on people, how many? My suggestion is if you do and your Dr gives it to you....I think you should find another Dr.
Now before some of you jump all over me about being infomed about the drugs you take....to those people I will say, there's nothing wrong with being informed (as everyone should....do your homeword people). But that doesn't mean believing everything posted on the internet either. With every prescription filled we are all given pieces of paper explaining EVERYTHING about that drug...read it.
I also mentioned that I felt by posting a woman who doesn't like her job or has to deal with her dirty clothes as being so depressed about IT/THEM she needs to take a drug for depression. THAT is what I consider minimizing something that cannot be fixed just by sucking down a pill. THAT's what it seems like the commercial is conveying...
There are much better ways of advertising the drug (if it needs to be advertised at all..)....which I don't think it should be.
There are a lot of ways this company could help people who are really suffering from depression (there are many levels of depression and many different forms of depression).
They could have talked about how devestating it is to everyone in a family. They could have told the audience to go to their Dr and talk to him....They could have said their Dr would be best to determine how much of their angst was because they just 'weren't happy' or if they were actually suffering from depression.
There is a vast difference between just not being happy (who in the @#$ is happy all of the time...?)
I also know for a fact there are people who need to take a low level depression because their serotonin has been depleted for various reasons. One of my best friends had this happen to her a few months ago. She has been dealing with her adult daughter who is bipolar and my friend's Dr gave her a very low dosage of an anti-depressant for a short time. She took it (as the Dr recommended). She now no longer takes it and is herself again.
OK, so now I'm tired of explaining myself.
I will finally add something I've mentioned before. While I have no problem addressing my posts....I do know for a fact there are people here who would love to post something (and opinion or anything) but don't because they worry about making some angry and getting 'jumped on'.
I don't feel that was the case here. I understand this is a sensitive subject. I thought long and hard before I even addressed it. I watch my soaps and (especially during the day) these commercials are played over and over....along with 'call a lawyer day or night' (different subject but sometimes needed).
Oh! I almost forgot to say that you mentioned something about some people needing an empathy pill.
Addressing that, I would say the line would be very short; because most people feel they don't need an empathy pill, because they have more empathy 'in their little finger than the guy next to them'....it would be 'give him my pill....I don't need it'.
Hummm???
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