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Re: My daughter who has chronic Lyme Disease


@LilacTree wrote:

@qbetzforreal wrote:

@LilacTree wrote:

@qbetzforreal wrote:

Please forgive me if this has been asked and answered.  But, what is the course of treatment for chronic lyme disease and why wouldn't a physician provide the treatment.  I remember the initial posts were your daughter attempting to be declared disabled due the effects of the lyme disease and be able to get benefits because she could no longer work and no physician would do it.  A doctor could still treat her without having her be declared disabled.  Is she under a doctor's care?

 

It's good that she is allowing her sisters to help.  The family needs to have a plan of action if the tests from infectious diseases come up negative.


@qbetzforreal

The only course of treatment for Lyme Disease is antibiotics (most used is doxycycline).  That will usually cure it when caught early.  There is no other treatment.  My daughter has been treated with it several times over long periods and has had to stop because she starts herxing and has to come off it.  Again, there is no other treatment.

 

Someone famous had it and went to Germany to get treated and cured.  I can't remember who it was.  But if Germany has a cure, I don't understand why the US does not. 

 

Yes, she was turned down for SSI, as almost all first attempts are for some reason.  She is supposedly now filing for chronic fatigue syndrome, but I have no idea if the attorney is still working on that or not.


Thank you for responding back.  I "googled" chronic lyme disease.  Interesting it is recognized by the CDC as Post Treatment Lyme Disease Syndrome.  Part of what the CDC says...

 

 

If you have been treated for Lyme disease and still feel unwell, see your doctor to discuss how to relieve your suffering. Your doctor may want to treat you in ways similar to patients who have fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue syndrome. This does not mean that your doctor is dismissing your pain or saying that you have these conditions. It simply means that the doctor is trying to help you cope with your symptoms using the best tools available.

It is normal to feel overwhelmed by your ongoing symptoms. Some things that may help you manage your PTLDS include:

  • Check with your doctor to make sure that Lyme disease is not the only thing affecting your health.
  • Become well-informed. A lot of inaccurate information is available, especially on the internet. Learn how to sort through this maze.
  • Track your symptoms. It can be helpful to keep a diary of your symptoms, sleep patterns, diet, and exercise to see how these influence your well-being.
  • Maintain a healthy diet and get plenty of rest.
  • Share your feelings. If your family and friends can't provide the support you need, talk with a counselor who can help you find ways of managing your life during this difficult time. As with any illness, Lyme disease can affect you and your loved ones. It doesn't mean that your symptoms are not real. It means that you are a human being who needs extra support in a time of need.

I read that she looking at fibromyalgia, that appears how doctors treat patients.

 

Take care.


@qbetzforreal

Yes, my daughter is aware of this new description of chronic Lyme that the CDC has come up with.  If you read between the lines, their "suggestions" have nothing to do with recognizing this as a disease.  They are calling it a "syndrome."  And none of their suggestions outline any medical treatment.  This infuriates the Lyme community.  It's a real blow-off that shows how un-seriously they take this illness.

 

Not your fault, I'm not criticizing you at all for being fooled, and thank you for bringing attention to it.  These suggestions could be for anyone suffering from nothing.


Wow.  But, it's cool.

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Chronic illness often causes depression and anxiety, which it sounds like she has. Chronic illness, depression, and anxiety can become and endless cycle, especially when the doctors seem to have solutions to the physical issues. Your daughter should be seeing a mental health care professional to deal with her anxiety issues and checked for depression. If they can get that straightened out, it may also improve her physical health, as depression and anxiety can wreak havoc on one's body.

 

That entire sepsis story is a classic case of anxiety and she needs to have that addressed.

 

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Hi. Sorry to hear about the struggle your daughter is going through. Since she just lost her COBRA she has to get other insurance, such as an ACA plan right away. Your idea of going to an infectious disease specialist is perfect. She tests positive for Borellia. This is one of the tick species that spreads Lyme. She has Lyme Disease. Treating her depression first is not a good idea because some medications might prevent the infection specialist from using medications necessary to fight the Lyme Disease. Once your daughter is evaluated medically, then you can help with treatment for the depression. Hopefully, a knowledgeable specialist will be able  to provide better treatment than she has been getting. As an aside, while your daughter did not have sepsis, please know that sepsis means that an infection has spread to the bloodstream. It does not have to be a resistant strain such as MRSA, any organism that has spread to the bloodstream is a septic infection. 


@LilacTree wrote:

When I got up yesterday morning, I almost tripped over my daughter who was sitting on the floor by the open front  doorway on the phone talking to 911.  She had called an ambulance because she feared she had "sepsis."  This has never happened before, although she has thought she has had sepsis for several weeks now.  I tried to remain calm and I am not sure she was even going to tell me she was going to the hospital.

 

When she hung up I asked her if she had a fever and she said no, but that she was so weak, she couldn't walk.  They came quickly and asked her dozens of questions.  I could see they were skeptical (and so could she) but they did take her to the hospital which is maybe three minutes down the highway.

 

My daughter has had chronic Lyme Disease and I have spoken about this before.  She is getting worse and has stopped going to the "Lyme" doctor because nothing he has done has helped her.

 

I immediately called her sisters to get to the hospital as quickly as possible (my one daughter lives almost 60 miles away).  I did not go because it was obvious she did not want me to, she didn't even want her sisters there, but they went anyway.

 

They did every test the ER can do, and came up with nothing (as has happened before . . . Lyme does not show up in regular hospital testing).  She does not have sepsis either (which I knew before she left . . . sepsis is the advanced form of MRSA and can be deadly if not treated in the ICU immediately).  One does not walk around with sepsis for weeks.  However, she needed to be told that. 

 

As soon as the ER doc said they were going to discharge her, her sisters had to calm her, as she really thinks she is dying.  We are going to call an infectious disease practice on Monday and get an appointment as soon as possible.  She has no confidence in them either, but she will go.  Some victims of Lyme do get better on long term sessions of IV antibiotics and she has finally agreed to try that.

 

My daughter is very sick with something, and she does test positive for borrelia burgdorferi (a Lyme titre), but after these many years feels she has many more illnesses than just that, including meningitis.  The medical community is very negative about chronic Lyme, which has also sent her into a very deep depression (which she does not acknowledge).  The ER doc said she should be treated for the Lyme, but for depression at the same time, or the treatment will not be effective.  This she repudiates, but we all know she is deeply depressed and who can blame her.  When your whole life changes from illness and no one believes you, who wouldn't get depressed?

 

NJ is slowly getting around to enacting legislation that will finally recognize chronic Lyme as an actual disease.  NY and some other states have already done it.  Thing is her COBRA from her job has run out and she's been in the process to get it through the ACA, but hasn't yet completed it, so she has no insurance.

 

We will all make sure she gets whatever treatment she needs no matter the cost.  When she came home last night, she looked so defeated, her head hanging down and barely able to walk by herself.  Her sisters helped her get into bed, and my youngest daughter is coming again today.  They will be back on Monday also, our fingers crossed that she can get an emergency appointment that day.

 

This is so heartbreaking, we all feel so helpless.  Yes, she is very negative and hard to deal with, but that is part of the disease.  She looks ten years older than she is, and feels as though she is on death's door. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

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Sorry, I forgot to add that some persons with Lyme Disease are often misdiagnosed with depression when Lyme itself can cause some of the same symptoms that depression does. If you feel helpless, the best thing you can do is arm yourselves with ac much information bout Lyme Disease as you can. Look at RELIABLE medical websites and read, read, read. You will feel better able to help if you know more. 

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If anyone is interested in updates, see my new post about therapist/psychologist I am seeing today.  This thread is too long already.

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Re: My daughter who has chronic Lyme Disease

@LilacTree

 

I read the Autoimmune Book you recommended... and learned quite a few new things.

Apparently, correct me if this is incorrect,

 

having an infection can bring on a myriad of possible Autoimmune diseases due to the body breaking down and reacting to its own tissues (i.e.:as in Lupus/RA/IBS/etc)

 

Medical community is being chintzy with its dollars

(therefore not admitting to Lyme as "real"

 

Medical illnesses can and do lead to depression (common sense)

 

Your book rec (have read Hyman, etc, too) and my suppositions about my own conditions are helping me heal my IBS.

 

You are doing great getting help for your DD.  I requested to see a psych many years ago... thought maybe my problem was mind over matter.  NOT TRUE... of course, I was told, I was not imagining or CAUSING my symptoms. They were real and they were true. My sanity was restored! (((Hugs to you))) Get her brain chemicals restored! (Neurotransmitters)

 

 

 

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Re: My daughter who has chronic Lyme Disease


@Lucky Charm wrote:

@KarenQVC wrote:

@LilacTree  Give all your daughters the name of the @King of Prussia dr. from @haddon.  Your daughters may want to see him if the current treatment doesn't work.  This could be a situation that needs many years of treatment.

.

 


This!

 

If they don't take insurance, set up a GoFundMe page.  I'll give money!


@Lucky Charm

Can you give me his name/website?

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Re: My daughter who has chronic Lyme Disease


@LTT1 wrote:

@LilacTree

 

I read the Autoimmune Book you recommended... and learned quite a few new things.

Apparently, correct me if this is incorrect,

 

having an infection can bring on a myriad of possible Autoimmune diseases due to the body breaking down and reacting to its own tissues (i.e.:as in Lupus/RA/IBS/etc)

 

Medical community is being chintzy with its dollars

(therefore not admitting to Lyme as "real"

 

Medical illnesses can and do lead to depression (common sense)

 

Your book rec (have read Hyman, etc, too) and my suppositions about my own conditions are helping me heal my IBS.

 

You are doing great getting help for your DD.  I requested to see a psych many years ago... thought maybe my problem was mind over matter.  NOT TRUE... of course, I was told, I was not imagining or CAUSING my symptoms. They were real and they were true. My sanity was restored! (((Hugs to you))) Get her brain chemicals restored! (Neurotransmitters)

 

 

 


@LTT1
That book is my "bible" now.  I have more pages dog-eared than not.  There are sections that precisely mirror my symptoms.  And have you noticed all the research they did? 
And at the risk of being accused once more of "hating doctors" (which I don't), most of them know very little about autoimmune diseases.  My gastro doc, whom I have always loved has never been able to diagnose why my stomach symptoms are so bad even after years of endoscopies.  He doesn't believe RA is the culprit.
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King of Prussia is the largest mall in Philly, I think.  This "doctor" is in a group called King of Prussia..... Google it.  There are many doctors in the group....

 

I googled "king of prussia, Pa medical group"