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Re: Measles making a comeback?

Childhood diseases have been virtually wiped out due to proper Immunizations. They have re emerged due to irresponsible parents relying on a 1998 report which linked autism to vaccines; it has proven to be invalid and the resercher has lost his license. Then, there are states like California where parents invoke the right of "personal choice"....well, there are no rights when it comes to public safety, the greater good. There are children with compromised immune systems and infants at risk...the very vulnerable who could die if they contract measles....too bad there isn't a vaccine for STUPIDITY!!!
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Re: Measles making a comeback?

Well, in the interest in adding balance to this discussion, what does anyone have to say about the two Merck virologist whistleblowers and their False Claims Act suit (i.e. involving federal charges of fraud) against their former employer that the US District judge refused to dismiss? These virologists worked directly on the MMR vaccine, itself, and were told to spike the vaccine with rabbit antibodies to artificially inflate the efficacy rate of the mumps component of the vaccine, resulting in the intentional falsification of the efficacy rate of the vaccine to federal authorities at both the FDA and at the CDC.

What about the CDC Whistleblower, William Thompson, who admitted that he falsified statistics in a 2004 paper he co-authored in order to eliminate the fact that those involved in the study found and were aware of a large, increased association between the MMR vaccine and the development of autism in African American babies when those babies received the MMR vaccine prior to the age of 3?

If you haven't yet heard about the lawsuits against the MMR vaccine manufacturer, nor about CDC Whistleblower William Thompson, and you likely haven't due to the near media black-out, you can read about them here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/merck-whistleblowers_b_5881914.html

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Re: Measles making a comeback?

Per Snopes.com, the whistleblower story mentioned in Jersey Born's post #141 is FALSE! :

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp

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Re: Measles making a comeback?

Times have sure changed from when I was a child. Measels were a right of passage for children in the 50's and 60's. Mothers used to take their children to the home of a friend who had the measels so that their children could ""get it over with.""

I remember having the measles twice (2 different types) and it wasn't as bad as the chickenpox for me.

I am glad that there are now vaccines for these diseases and all parents should consider them. I didn't hesitate to have my children vaccinated and I had to pay for them. Insurance did not cover preventative medicine when my kids were small.

I remember polio and seeing children suffer from this horrible disease. My own father had both feet and legs crippled by polio when he was 6 mos old.

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On 2/13/2015 AnotherView2 said:

Per Snopes.com, the whistleblower story mentioned in Jersey Born's post #141 is FALSE! :

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/cdcwhistleblower.asp

You believe what you read at Snopes, which isn't exactly an independent source? I don't. I won't even go to the Snopes website as I have no faith in the information it contains. I don't ever look to a single source for my information.

Does Snopes say the False Claims Act lawsuit against Merck for their MMR vaccine fraud is false, too? I am sure I can find the actual Merck False Claims Act lawsuit somewhere and post it here, if you would like to read it.

Congress is going to hold hearings about the CDC Whistleblower, William Thompson, just so you know. That doesn't sound false to me. But as I said, I don't consult Snopes for my information.

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There is so much misinformation about vaccines out there...bottom line if you think probiotics, vitamins will help you, you are entitled to your misguided beliefs but keep your kid home in a bubble....he/she doesn't belong in school; I wish such children could be banned from entertainment venues as well but it doesn't work that way. It was the law to exclude children from school if not properly vaccinated until people like Jenny McCarthy and her followers decided they had the right not to vaccinate their children. Well, the majority of well balanced parents have the right to keep their children safe from preventable diseases. And, so the rights of the many responsible parents are thrown out on behalf of the few who decide they are above laws made to protect children. This is not new age thinking but dark age thinking
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On 2/14/2015 stray770 said: There is so much misinformation about vaccines out there...bottom line if you think probiotics, vitamins will help you, you are entitled to your misguided beliefs but keep your kid home in a bubble....he/she doesn't belong in school; I wish such children could be banned from entertainment venues as well but it doesn't work that way. It was the law to exclude children from school if not properly vaccinated until people like Jenny McCarthy and her followers decided they had the right not to vaccinate their children. Well, the majority of well balanced parents have the right to keep their children safe from preventable diseases. And, so the rights of the many responsible parents are thrown out on behalf of the few who decide they are above laws made to protect children. This is not new age thinking but dark age thinking

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Re: Measles making a comeback?

I truly believe it's from an influx of illegals with no shots & the scare Jenny McCarthy influenced people with regarding her son's autism.

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On 2/18/2015 straitgirl said:

I truly believe it's from an influx of illegals with no shots & the scare Jenny McCarthy influenced people with regarding her son's autism.


It's not the illegals, they've shown that over and over.

It's unvaccinated Americans who travel to other countries, catch measles and bring it back to America.

The man who started the outbreak last year was an unvaccinated Amish missionary who traveled to the Philippines, caught measles, and brought it back to Ohio.

Those spreading it in California are trendy parents who did not vaccinate their children.

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On 1/28/2015 Puppy Lips said:
On 1/23/2015 NoelSeven said:
On 1/23/2015 terrier3 said:
On 1/23/2015 Puppy Lips said:

We know a family with 5 kids where the 2nd oldest became Autistic. They did not get any of their younger 3 vaccinated. If someone honestly thinks that the shots could cause autism, I can understand trying to protect the rest of your children and taking their chances by avoiding the shots.

I honestly think the moon is made of green cheese.

There is no scientific proof that vaccines cause autism. But unvaccinated kids DO die from measles, mumps, whooping cough, etc.

terrier is correct, there is no study that shows a connection between vaccines and autism.

Sure, a kid can get a vaccine and later have autism. No connection. A kid can also have ice cream and later be diagnosed with autism. Or a candy bar, or a baked potato. That does not mean cause and effect.

I am far from an expert and do not know enough to defend either position. out it? Can you iBut I will say that if there were a study that linked vaccines to autism, do you think the public would even hear abmagine the lawsuits? I think the medical community and/or the government would do anything and everything to keep that information from coming out. Not a conspiracy theorist, I just do not trust all those in charge.

Yes, I do think the public would hear about it.

I also think there are plenty of misinformed people who believe that isn't true, and I wonder why all of you haven't gotten together and funded your own research if you truly believe in the conspiracy theory. If you believe you're not being told the truth, THAT IS a conspiracy theory.

Start a Go Fund Me account and find out for yourself. Yes, it can be done. Along with others, I fund lupus research.

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