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09-30-2016 01:13 PM
Yes I did go to the gym six days a week last November. Had a fall on ice and went on vacation arriving home at 1 am at the airport with no one to help unload the carousel. My luggage was over 60 lbs. That was the final straw. Tried to work it out with exercise but was getting worse. My recent MRI showed hemagiomas with rupture and bulging disks plus other issues. Hemagiomas are tumors in the spine with nodes that ruptured. My report is lengthy. I don't go to the doctor until I can't tolerate it or function anymore. Tried pt now but making things worse.
09-30-2016 02:37 PM
DH has been experiencing severe back pain the last few months. He has seen ortho who did MRI. At 74 he has a lot going on in his lower back. He has had 2 injections and after one round of pt he couldn't even stand up. (He is a VERY active person.) Ortho sent to another who suggested fusion of L3/L4 but said it would be risky and would send him to another dr. He also said with all his back issues it may not help the pain. They have now scheduled nerve tests and referral to neuro surgeon. In the meantime I was volunteering with a person who said he was told by dr. a few years ago he needed surgery OR he could follow a book Pain Free. I immediately ordered and within days dh has been able to walk and has stopped all the prescription drugs that had him sleeping all day. I read the book and much makes sense but all i know is he can walk again and has stopped sleeping all day drugged up. I'll take each day it helps and see where it leads us. He is trying to decide if he should keep the other appointments.
09-30-2016 02:41 PM
@lulu2 wrote:
@Yesyesyes568 wrote:MRI RESULTS SAY SURGERY FOR MY LOWER BACK. IVE BEEN SUFERRING A GREAT DEAL AND THE TEST SHOWS IM IN SEVERITY SHAPE WHICH REQUIRES SURGERY NOW. ILL BE SEEING A SURGEON SOON. ANYONE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS???? TIA
As you said you were seeing a surgeon soon, who told you you needed surgery?
Are you seeing an ortho surgeon or a neuro surgeon?
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That is also my question. I would advise a Neurosurgeon for sure. Especially for your back. Nothing is 100% but a Neurosurgeon will get you better odds.
Good luck and keep us informed as to your progress.
09-30-2016 03:38 PM
10-02-2016 06:29 PM
I would go to both a spine surgeon and a neurosurgeon and ASK EVERY QUESTION YOU CAN THINK OF!
Every back surgery is not the same. Some are as simple as using super glue and some, like John's, are extensive. Find out all you can about your surgery, the reason for the surgery and what you can expect after the surgery.
After being in the hospital lately I have realized that every Doctor studied at a different Medical School and they all have different opinions. All of which can be correct!
10-02-2016 08:03 PM - edited 10-02-2016 08:07 PM
Thank you to all of you that have responded. I'll try to tell you as much or as little as I know about my back. I have bulging disk. There's a nerve involved somehow. I have stenosis. I'm bone on bone in my lower back. There's more but I don't have the info because I'm just not a fully mentally brainiac I guess. I have gone through shots in my back, on percocets for pain,heat, ice masotherapy, therapy, medical cream for pain and I can't remember what else but enough stuff, oh I have warn back belts for support just to be able to work that I paid out of pocket including masotherapy for over 20 years because I had zero insurance. The long hard hours standing for years and car accidents messed me up. I swam and walked to tighten the muscles in my legs in the back and it helped. But now I don't anymore, even though I'm planning to get myself in water but never do. So much pain.....every day......
wish I could find a masotherapist becos mine got Ill with cancer years ago and he was the BEST.
I wish for all of you that have a doctors degree that need my back info to determine mine end result not just the fact that it's a legit situation, I am sorry.
Also I am not in a hurry to get cut.
Im too mature to allow some Neurosurgeon to get knife happy.
Even if he was the BEST. He's still human and can can screw up and I can keep on living with what I have BUT ONLY ON PAIN KILLERS.
Without them then I'd wish I'd go to the next best surgeon that didn't screw up and took Half my pain away. So I could be off pain killers and could stay out of bed and had a life for a change.
That's my HOPE........ PS IM SEEING A NEUROSURGEON
10-03-2016 11:20 AM
Sounds like you are doing everything right. Best of luck to you in your decision and recovery. I wish you a life with no pain.
10-03-2016 01:56 PM
@Yesyesyes568 It is beyond my ability to comprehend WHY anyone would chose to continue to live in pain when a surgery has been offered to relieve it. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE -- you are already in horrible pain - I would grasp onto any possibility that could give me relief. And, yes, I have had back surgery and it did give me 100% relief of my horrible back pain. I woke up in the recovery room without horrible nerve pain for the first time in 3 years and told my surgeon he was my hero for life. ( For 3 years my PCP refused to give me a referral to a ortho doctor for my leg pain saying I was a hypocondriac. Turned out by the time I got an MRI it was found I needed emergency surgery on my back. For all those 3 years never even one pain pill - nothing.And I was working full time as a nurse too. I had to pay for my ortho doctor and my MRI out of pocket because that jerk would not give me a referral.)
10-03-2016 03:51 PM
I am glad you were finally to be pain free. Could you not change doctors and see another PCP during those painful 3 years? I had 1 doctor that refused to give me a referral, and that was in 1960.
Walked out of at least 3 doctor's offfice for the past time when they refused a referral, and found 1 had had until he retired that had no problem doing so. He respected my ability of knowing my own body well enough, and when I asked, he never had a oroblem.
Most of my present doctors are also my friends, and 1 is married to my niece. With my many issues, the last thing I would have wanted would be to have to battle with a GP to see any of my Specialists.
I know quite well the feeling when my Ortho Doctor removed my ruptured L-5/ S-1, and ended my many months of severe sciatic pain. I remember not being able to make my 20-25 minute drive to work without getting out of the car and walking a few feet to ease my sciatic pain. Thought I died and was in heaven.
hckynut(john)
@151949 wrote:@Yesyesyes568 It is beyond my ability to comprehend WHY anyone would chose to continue to live in pain when a surgery has been offered to relieve it. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE -- you are already in horrible pain - I would grasp onto any possibility that could give me relief. And, yes, I have had back surgery and it did give me 100% relief of my horrible back pain. I woke up in the recovery room without horrible nerve pain for the first time in 3 years and told my surgeon he was my hero for life. ( For 3 years my PCP refused to give me a referral to a ortho doctor for my leg pain saying I was a hypocondriac. Turned out by the time I got an MRI it was found I needed emergency surgery on my back. For all those 3 years never even one pain pill - nothing.And I was working full time as a nurse too. I had to pay for my ortho doctor and my MRI out of pocket because that jerk would not give me a referral.)
10-03-2016 05:09 PM
I would say each individual decides/knows for themselves when they've tried everything else and the pain and lifestyle effects they are experiencing make surgery their last and only option.
I'm just starting down this road, having also spent a lifetime involved with healthcare. My issues are definitely not to a surgery point - and since they are largely hereditary and degenerative I'm not sure how much I could even BE helped by surgery down the road.
What I do know is that most doctors reserve spinal surgery as being a last resort, not a jump-to thing. I would have had to try everything else, have had it not work, and be severely incapacitated with a really sucky quality of life before I would consider surgery.
Then I would get at least a second opinion and possibly a third, and would probably go for the most conservative option. I have known two people who are also in the healthcare field with access to excellent surgeons, who both had recent back surgery. Neither had the results they hoped for, and both are pretty depressed about that. I should add they are a decade or more younger than I.
I personally would only want back surgery if I truly had nothing left to lose.
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