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i have occasional flare ups of gout, but they are not triggered by ham or salt.....they are mostly triggered by shellfish and/or alcohol.

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On 4/6/2015 queendiva said:
On 4/6/2015 terrier3 said:

My cousin had Easter dinner. Two of my relatives have had heart conditions and she wouldn't let them eat the ham - or the cake dessert!

I had no idea that ham could be so harmful for just one meal.

Who made your cousin the Food Police?

She served a main course and dessert and denied them to two guests? Very twisted, indeed.

She is a PA and has helped both her cousin and his son through their heart surgeries.

The son had a double stent last month and needs another (but can't be given any more anesthesia due to other issues). She has taken him to all his doctor appts.

She nursed them both tirelessly.

I was a little taken aback though, since she didn't cook any chicken or any other protein for them.

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SHE NURSED THEM BOTH TIRELESSLY.

Oh, so that gives her the authority and superiority to deny them the main dish AND dessert and not offer something delicious and appropriate for their needs. That's caring. NOT! How humiliating to treat people that way at Easter dinner- especially family!

Shame on your cousin!


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I personally would not react well if this situation had happened to me. I am an adult and will make my own decisions as to what I will eat. Regardless of any health issues I might have, NO ONE will be my Food Police as long as I am in my right mind.
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WOW, "terrier3"! Your cousin prepares and invites family as guests, and for this she pretty much shamed? My house/my dinner and "I" decide what's for dinner, not my house guests, be they relatives or friends. I haven't eaten meat/fish or fowl for decades now, but when I get an invite to a dinner, I certainly am not going to excoriate the hosts if I do not care for what she/he has chosen to serve for the meal. I side with you and your cousin, and I do not view either of you as the "Food Police". Geeezz people, this was to be a joyous occasion dinner for Pete's sake, EASTER
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Op here. As usual, this thread took an off-ramp. I was just trying to remind people with coronary problems-to use caution eating lots of post-Easter ham. No one wants to be wasteful, and ham is tasty-it's very easy to have omelets with ham, sandwiches, bean soup, etc. 3 or 4 days of eating ham is enough to send some CHF patients into trouble. I don't know what happened at Terrier's Easter dinner, I wasn't there-no need for every one to get their Easter Basket in a knot. I'm not the food police, nor a personal friend of the First Lady. I posted this info as an FYI only. Go ahead and eat whatever you like!

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Someone just had to make it political, right?

Michelle O - that terrible "self-appointed food police chief"? Really?

What person with "a lick of common sense" would slam Michelle and Dr. Jill Biden for what they have been doing to promote healthy eating and exercise for children? Not to mention the other work they have done to fight hunger in this country.

There are far too many parents who don't bother or don't know how to teach their children anything about healthy eating... and far too many children who go hungry. Why would anyone lambast those who are at least making an effort to alleviate this horrible problem? {#emotions_dlg.mad}

ETA: OP, I didn't see your post before I submitted mine. Thanks for the reminder... not everyone thinks about what you posted. And if more children (and young people in general) were exposed to what Michelle and Jill are trying to teach, maybe there would be fewer people who need to watch their ham intake when they grow up!{#emotions_dlg.blush}

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On 4/6/2015 lacey1 said:

Op here. As usual, this thread took an off-ramp. I was just trying to remind people with coronary problems-to use caution eating lots of post-Easter ham. No one wants to be wasteful, and ham is tasty-it's very easy to have omelets with ham, sandwiches, bean soup, etc. 3 or 4 days of eating ham is enough to send some CHF patients into trouble. I don't know what happened at Terrier's Easter dinner, I wasn't there-no need for every one to get their Easter Basket in a knot. I'm not the food police, nor a personal friend of the First Lady. I posted this info as an FYI only. Go ahead and eat whatever you like!

Love your sense of humor, lacey1!!! Especially love your "off-ramp" and "Easter Basket in a knot" comments!

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FYI, ham is salty due to the curing process and is not a naturally salty meat. There are now hams on the market that do not cure the ham in the same way they used to. They are far, far less salty and taste incredibly good. I predict that curing ham will eventually totally change. I seek out these hams and had one yesterday. We loved it... and with anything, moderation is the key. Smile

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On 4/6/2015 hckynut said: WOW, "terrier3"! Your cousin prepares and invites family as guests, and for this she pretty much shamed? My house/my dinner and "I" decide what's for dinner, not my house guests, be they relatives or friends. I haven't eaten meat/fish or fowl for decades now, but when I get an invite to a dinner, I certainly am not going to excoriate the hosts if I do not care for what she/he has chosen to serve for the meal. I side with you and your cousin, and I do not view either of you as the "Food Police". Geeezz people, this was to be a joyous occasion dinner for Pete's sake, EASTER

Thanks John.

My cousin, due to her medical background as a PA and her close proximity to my cousins, helped both our cousin and his son through their heart attacks. The wife/mom has MD and can't leave her home, so my cousin stepped in and helped them.

Telling them not to eat the ham (or the birthday cake prepared for another guest) wasn't done to deprive them of tasty food, but out of concern for their well being. They didn't object at all.

BTW - I made an ambrosia salad - fresh pineapple, raspberries, coconut and orange liqueur - with a few candied walnuts (NO dairy dressing) they ate instead of cake. My cousin added NO salt to anything - but used spices and herbs to season the dishes. NONE of us missed the salt!