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08-16-2018 01:04 PM - edited 08-16-2018 01:05 PM
When you east this diet the reason you start to burn fats is because your body does not have the carbs it requires to function , so it has to use what it has - and that's fats. However - the other side of the story is when you are burning fats your body gets into a KETOACIDOTIC state. Thus the name . However, when you are in this state you are acidotic and acidosis is very unhealthy. Acidosis attacks your vital organs. This diet is NOT A GOOD IDEA. You'll lose weight, you'll also shorten your life. Your choice -if you don't think you'll mind desparately needing a liver or kidney tranplant some day - or being tied to a dialysis machine - go for it.
08-16-2018 01:07 PM
Anyone with any knowledge of diabetes knows type 2 can be hereditary which mine is. I am not overweight, I have managed to decrease my metformin to 1/4 of what I took when I was first diagnosed at 66 years old, by carefully monitoring carbs
My blood sugar when tested by a lab is always in the low fives, which is normal...Don't be afraid to seek medical help from competent men and woman who have gone to medical school for years to learn their craft
There are opportunists at every turn ,trying to make a buck from your illness, so be proactive, and get your information from a credible source ,starting with your Dr ,and the Diabetes Association, they have a website online
08-16-2018 01:11 PM
And yes you can eat carbs, but you must choose carefully and make sure you are not eatting too many
08-16-2018 07:06 PM
No one can cure diabetes. It is a life time diagnosis.
Anyone who tells you differently is engaged in magical thinking.
Your Mom’s use of insulin in her body is impaired and the impairment can be caused by different factors. It can’t be fixed, it can’t be reversed, it can only be managed. That being said, she can very successfully manager her diabetes so that she doesn’t suffer from the side effects of her issue. She can use the medications that have been recommended by her physician, she can go to a different diabetes specialist and get a second opinion. She can research her condition on the web, going to reputable sites like the American Diabetes Association; American Diabetes Association or The Mayo Clinic: Diabetes .
To work naturally with her condition she will need to watch her diet and increase her exercise. Losing weight can help and may reduce or even eliminate her need for any diabetic medications.
But she will always be a diabetic because her body doesn’t use insulin normally. Currently, there is no magical cure for diabetes. So watch out! Your Mom can do damage to her overall health and well being by following fad diets, fad vitamin regimes, fad ‘natural’ supplement systems.
I am sorry she has this diagnosis. I have lived with it for 35 years and have tried many, many of these fads, and none of them work, NONE of them. Diet, exercise, losing weight, and well chosen and monitored medications are the best hope for your Mom.
08-16-2018 08:24 PM
I have mentioned this before about the Keto Diet on this forum.
After the birth of my third child in 1979, I joined a weight loss clinic called NurtriSystem... yes, you guessed it...that one. They have since changed their whole program.
Back in the day, you purchased food at their diet center and had to submit to blood and urine tests each week. The diet was very low carb and very low fat. There were Keto sticks for urine to check your progress throughout the week and on weigh in night.
I lost weight at a lightening fast speed and got hooked on the diet. Unfortunately, my potassium dropped to an unsafe level. I had to take potassium tablets that were dissolved in water...they tasted awful. I didn't take them as often as directed and I started to pass out and get dizzy.
My PCP nearly had a heart attack when he got the results of my blood work and checked my heart. I was skipping beats. I was ordered to go off of the diet. I ignored his advice and went anyhow. I lost more weight, but felt awful.
Somehow the Nutrisystem program found out my doctor did not approve and they kicked me out of the program.
I wanted to lose 10 more pounds so I continued the diet plan on my own...
low carbs and low fat. To make a long story short. I almost killed myself. I was just 25 years old with three children and I could hardly get out of bed. I had gall bladder problems that led to surgery to have it removed.
It took months for me to get my health back. I was so blinded by the fast weight loss that I wasn't thinking right.
Would I ever recommend the Keto Diet....No way!
Do I do low carb? Yes, occasionally I do. With low carb, I am ingesting fats and protein and some complex carbs. You need these nutrients for heart health.
Askins and low carb is fine, but when you kick your body into Ketosis, you are playing with fire. I wouldn't do it, nor do I suggest that anyone should.
if I got that sick at a healthy age of 25, I can't imagine what harm that Diet could do to an older person with possible pre-x conditions.
08-16-2018 08:44 PM - edited 08-16-2018 11:06 PM
Shake.my.head.
What a story.
A tale of extreme warning.
Heart skipping beats.
A self-proclaimed ‘I almost killed myself’ but yet......
”Yes, occasional I do (low carb)”
If Keto is ‘Death’, than Low Carb is just their Ugly Cousin of ‘Death Lite.’
Why, in heaven’s name, would anyone continue
to stick their hand in that ‘box of low carb snakes???”
Stuns me.
I worry about anyone doing this lifestyle.
It never has a positive outcome, but those still try.
08-16-2018 10:55 PM
I have read a lot about keto (webmd, etc),
all are Not in favor of this eating lifestyle.
Especially long term.
Not something I would want to follow.
08-18-2018 12:41 PM
A very low carb diet causes the body be in KETOSIS not KETOACIDOSIS!
Ketoacidosis is a condition where there are toxic levels of ketones build up in the blood because the body is not producing insulin.
Ketosis results when the body has used up all of it stored glycogen and begins to burn fat for energy.
08-18-2018 01:21 PM
That’s correct.
Ketoacidosis is primarily found in Type 1 diabetics, rare in T2.
But what do diabetic educators instruct their new T1 patients
to eat? Typically a low-carbohydrate diet. Mis-managed diabetes
will result in dangerous outcomes, no matter T1 or T2.
And most sources will differenate this condition between T1 & T2.
What about Type 1.5?
Even a healthy, non-diabetic human can cause serious damage
with the lack of carbohydrates...in conjunction with higher
amounts of protein (tasking on the kidneys) and fats (plaque buildup).
I just don’t know why anyone would want to risk a.n.y.t.h.i.n.g,
no matter what their medical condition is, with a questionable
dietary protocol.
The body wants to heal itself.
Why continue to hurt it? Why push that ‘stone uphill?’
The answer is so easy.
08-18-2018 01:29 PM - edited 08-18-2018 01:30 PM
Ladies see your Dr for advice if you are diabetic. What is being advised here is plain dangerous...
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