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Re: Is there such a thing as a well-balanced low carb diet?

Under 100 g carbs is horrible for my health. Been proven to me too many times to count. Not going there any longer.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a well-balanced low carb diet?


@CARMIE wrote:

@sidsmom wrote:

@ILTH wrote:
 

B12 deficiency occurs in people who don't eat meat, eggs, poultry, dairy products, and other foods from animals


@ILTH 

Sorry...that's not correct.

Everyone needs to be mindful of B12.

 

Livestock is given an oral application of B12....its not 'magically'

produced by the animal.  


"But I buy grass-fed products"....the small amount of grounds/fields

used to label 'grsss-fed' is so sanitized to keep the animal healthy,

they have to be supplemented with the same B12 that vegans use.

 

If eating animal muscle is the only reason to get your B12,

I have news...it also gives you high amount of sat fat, hormones,

no fiber...which results in poorer health.

 

But I guess my 1 tablet for $.25, once a week, is too much trouble

for some people...versus heart disease, cancer, diabetes...

it's your choice. 

 


So, what about fish and seafood?  Are clams, sardines, tuna and salmon fortified with supplements?  All of these protein sources are very high in Vitamin B12.  I guess they must be magical foods.  I am mindful of Vitamin B 12 and get my fair share from fish and seafood which I eat a few times a week.

 

I have no heart disease, diabetes or cancer and take no meds...no prescriptions or OTC. I don't even take supplements.  


Wild/free-range/grass-fed animals (fish included) consume bacteria

from plants/seafood.  And those natural sources of bacteria are not

a reliable amounts of B12...because, obliviously we can't regulate

B12 intake.  Plus synthetic B12 (tablets and/or fortified foods)

are better absorbed than animal forms of B12.

 

Another thought...any time we consume animal product/byproducts,

the body increases the production of hormone IGF-1...

which is oxidative & encourages cancer growth.

 

My one tablet a week is much easier & cheaper than buying,

preparing, storing any animal product....and my 1 tablet

doesn't cause cancer growth.  I know exactly the amounts I'm getting.

 

 

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@sidsmom

 

I'm growing tired of the idea you keep supporting that "everyone" needs to be mindful of  or take supplements of B12.  It's hard to be deficient in this vitamin if a person consumes dairy, eggs, meat, seafood and ordinary, common foods.  

 

Have you considered--and can you answer the question-- about how the human race has managed to survive, grow stronger, taller, live longer over the centuries---EVEN BEFORE THE VITAMIN INDUSTRY AND ROGUE  NUTRITION EXPERTS/BOOK AUTHORS  got such a big hold on consumers' wallets?

 

This country doesn't have a food supply shortage.  We probably do  have a growing surplus of "nutritional supplement" suppliers.

 

We probably also have a few too many shills for the diet and nutrition rogues and their theories about what we "ALL" should eat.

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Do we know or will we ever find out how long these promotors of nutritional supplements or special diet plans will live? 

 

Will they get cancer or diseases or die young just like some of the rest of us, or are they more special, older, wiser, better educated than we are?

 

I do think they feel more holy than the rest of us who don't eat their prescribed perfect diet plans. 

 

But we will never have a way to find out whether they live longer than we do, and that their advice actually worked.  Personally, I think that's a good reason to ignore their recommendations..

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@novamc wrote:

@sidsmom

 

Have you considered--and can you answer the question-- about how the human race has managed to survive, grow stronger, taller, live longer over the centuries---EVEN BEFORE THE VITAMIN INDUSTRY AND ROGUE  NUTRITION EXPERTS/BOOK AUTHORS  got such a big hold on consumers' wallets?

 


Yes....yes I can answer.

The human race has survived over the centuries because...

 

1.  Food wasn't sanitized with it's growing/manufacturing/packaging

practices of today.

 

2.  They were generally eating a starch-heavy, predominately

plant based diet where foods were eaten with B12 bacteria

from the soil.

 

3. As we age, the intestinal tract slows down..and the absorption 

of nutrients become harder to assimilate.  Pair that with foods 

which are slow to digest (animal products) and the absorption

becomes even less.

 

4. It's not just 'age' that slows everything down, it's taking OTC

antiacids, alcohol consumption, smoking, bowel issues, diabetes..

these conditions are not just for older people.  Even young children

are being affected with bowel issues, diabetes..and their B12 needs

are increasing as a result.

 

Any other vitamin/mineral, other than B12, can be obtained via plants.

There's no need for pills...but telling the large population that pills

arent needed? Just here in this forum w/ the big pill pushing programs..

all that is so unnecessary if eating correctly through a PB diet. 
And to circle back to the OP question...no, there's no such thing 

as a well-balanced low carb diet.  Eating animal products/byproducts

and large amounts of fat already puts the body in a deficit. 

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@novamc wrote:

Do we know or will we ever find out how long these promotors of nutritional supplements or special diet plans will live? 

 

Will they get cancer or diseases or die young just like some of the rest of us, or are they more special, older, wiser, better educated than we are?

 

I do think they feel more holy than the rest of us who don't eat their prescribed perfect diet plans. 

 

But we will never have a way to find out whether they live longer than we do, and that their advice actually worked.  Personally, I think that's a good reason to ignore their recommendations..


@novamc A lot of the plant based gurus have elaborate "spas" to stay at costing thousands and if you read between the fine print, most often charge for their "advice." To the average person who knows little to nothing about how the body works, they are easy prey for shills that promote their programs on the internet. They get paid for everything they promote.

 

When they are asked about biology or complicated questions about the human body, they repeat a rehearsed dialogue word for word knowing little to nothing about science.

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@bikerbabe wrote:
Under 100 g carbs is horrible for my health. Been proven to me too many times to count. Not going there any longer.

Further proving that no one size fits all dietary advice is for everyone.

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Re: Is there such a thing as a well-balanced low carb diet?

Don't forget abut resistant starch. It lets you have a bit more carbs without sugar spikes

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@depglass,  I would urge you to seek the advice of a nutritionist/registered dietitian who specializes in whatever ailments you may be dealing with.

 

About 2 years ago, a friend who was very overweight and dealing with other health issues caused by her obesity, talked with her doc about it all. The doc stated, "In all of our years in medical school, we get something like 6 hours of schooling on nutrition, meaning MDs are never the best people to ask!" She referred my friend to a great certified nutritionist who changed my friend's life.  She's lost at least 100 pounds and has kept it all off, is now very physically active again, and is off all of the meds she was taking prior. 

 

Her new way of eating isn't any of the popular diet fads today. It's simply sensible, well-balanced, healthy eating—under the guidance of a true specialist. She told me she's never been hungry once eating in this new way. She continues to work with the nutritionist regularly to make sure she keeps her healthy eating and physical activity on track through the years.  It's been so wonderful to see all that she's accomplished. So proud of my friend!

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Re: Is there such a thing as a well-balanced low carb diet?

@Susan Louise 

 

Wow ....  great post !!   Congrats on the weight loss.

 

For when I feel I really need a dessert,  I have a box or two of Atkins snacks or treats.   They really do the trick.