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Re: I know diabetes treatment is subjective but ...

Can I ask you ladies a couple of questions?

 

How old were you when you received the diagnosis of diabetes?

 

Was it type one or type two?

 

Also what were your symptoms that made you go to the doctor? Or were the symptoms silent and you had no idea that you were diabetic?

 

I am asking questions that I have always wanted explained to me. Thanks so much!

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@SeaMaiden wrote:

Can I ask you ladies a couple of questions?

 

How old were you when you received the diagnosis of diabetes?

 

Was it type one or type two?

 

Also what were your symptoms that made you go to the doctor? Or were the symptoms silent and you had no idea that you were diabetic?

 

I am asking questions that I have always wanted explained to me. Thanks so much!


 

 

I was in my early 60s. Type 1 diabetics are diagnosed in childhood or, more rarely, in their early 20s. Nearly all diagnosed adults are type 2. The causes are different and the management is different. The numbers and treatment goals are also fairly different.

 

I had symptoms and should have connected the dots but did not, and for me it was discovered on routine lab work due to a visit for something else. But my FBS was through the roof. Many more people these days are early/borderline and doctors are telling their patients they are pre-diabetic or are diabetic with borderline numbers so they will start in doing all they can to reverse the trend.

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Re: I know diabetes treatment is subjective but ...


@Tissyanne wrote:

My type 2 diagnosis came with a FBS of 141, and I was put on Metformin extended release. My A1C' s have not shown to be higher than 6.1. The A1C being a 7 means that would be the highest acceptable readout for a type 2. These are the numbers I have been taught for the past 8 years, and very recently as well. Denial is common when someone is diagnosed. 

 

I am not in denial! Good grief. I want to know why high numbers are fine for one diabetic and not the other from the same doctor. Why doesn't my husband having the same standard I have.


 

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@151949 wrote:

@Tissyanne wrote:

My type 2 diagnosis came with a FBS of 141, and I was put on Metformin extended release. My A1C' s have not shown to be higher than 6.1. The A1C being a 7 means that would be the highest acceptable readout for a type 2. These are the numbers I have been taught for the past 8 years, and very recently as well. Denial is common when someone is diagnosed. 

 

I am not in denial! Good grief. I want to know why high numbers are fine for one diabetic and not the other from the same doctor. Why doesn't my husband having the same standard I have.


 


The very first thing that I learned on the diabetes forum is that each diabetic's body responds differently to the same foods and medication and each person's metabolism is different. There is no "one" anything about type 2 diabetes.

 

There was a guy who used to beat and attack me verbally because I would post about eating something that in HIS opinion was "dangerous" to talk about eating because other diabetics might think they could eat it too - but HE couldn't eat it, so no one could/should. Never mind that I pointed out to him that my A1C was 5.4 and I didn't spike after eating it. That he just refused to believe. I was lying, dangerous to other diabetics and must be beaten into submission, period.

 

Do you and your husband have the *same* doctor? If so, he must see some things in your labs overall that makes him approach your numbers differently. If not, your dictor just has a different take in the numbers.

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My DH was diagnosed in 97.  His DOCTOR called (not the nurse) and said get him to ER immediately.  His Blood Sugar was 600.  DH was on the way home from work, no cellphone.  He walked in the door, and out we went to ER.  DH didn't feel bad, or weak, or sick in anyway.  He spent a week in the hospital. Testing, learning about diabetes.  We received a huge poster of meal planning, portions, etc, etc. This is a man that doesn't think he has diabetes, even if he takes 2 different insulins, 4 different pills.  He is supposed to take his count 8 times a day, he takes it in the morning. Takes med for his neuropathy in feet.  Doesn't have diabetes, the medicine made him diabetic.  BS, BS, BS. He is a diabetic idiot.  But, it is the only medical problem he has.

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@151949 wrote:

@Tissyanne wrote:

My type 2 diagnosis came with a FBS of 141, and I was put on Metformin extended release. My A1C' s have not shown to be higher than 6.1. The A1C being a 7 means that would be the highest acceptable readout for a type 2. These are the numbers I have been taught for the past 8 years, and very recently as well. Denial is common when someone is diagnosed. 

 

I am not in denial! Good grief. I want to know why high numbers are fine for one diabetic and not the other from the same doctor. Why doesn't my husband having the same standard I have.


 



@151949 wrote:

@Tissyanne wrote:

My type 2 diagnosis came with a FBS of 141, and I was put on Metformin extended release. My A1C' s have not shown to be higher than 6.1. The A1C being a 7 means that would be the highest acceptable readout for a type 2. These are the numbers I have been taught for the past 8 years, and very recently as well. Denial is common when someone is diagnosed. 

 

I am not in denial! Good grief. I want to know why high numbers are fine for one diabetic and not the other from the same doctor. Why doesn't my husband having the same standard I have.


 


You need to talk to your doctor since you are questioning him concerning your diabetes.. How would any of us know why you and your husband are not being held to the same standard. Good Grief.

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I'm a new Diabetic and have to see a Doctor soon. So I will be paying attention to the discussions here.
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@kitty4me wrote:
I'm a new Diabetic and have to see a Doctor soon. So I will be paying attention to the discussions here.

 

 

You might want to google "diabetes forum."  There are several that are active and helpful. Stick to the areas for the newly diagnosed type 2, and read a lot of the basic information for type 2. You might find questions you can ask your doctor when you go. Ask for a referral to a dietician - if you have insurance it is most likely paid for.

 

Keep in mind as you read (here and on other forums) that there is no one management for all diabetic bodies and that there are disagreements on everything from your numbers to baseline numbers to what you should not/cannot eat. Read to educate yourself and get a general concensus of the "rules", and what "most" diabetics do. I learned more from the forums than I ever did from the doctor or the dietician, but in my case the dietician was not well informed and not a diabetes specialist, but I had no choice.

 

Generally - cut way back on carbs. White bread, rolls, bagels, hamburger buns, etc, potatoes, rice, pasta, all fried foods, fruit juices and smoothies. Those are the basics, but I'm sure I'm forgetting more. Fruits are tricky. Apples and any berries are good, other fruits not so much.

 

Each diabetic will, over time, learn what spikes (blood sugar) them may not spike another and vice versa. You can't eat X without spiking but someone else can - but then you can eat Y without spiking and they can't.

 

Doesn't mean you can "never ever" eat certain things, just means watch it - small portions and not often.

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@SeaMaiden wrote:

Can I ask you ladies a couple of questions?

 

How old were you when you received the diagnosis of diabetes?

 

Was it type one or type two?

 

Also what were your symptoms that made you go to the doctor? Or were the symptoms silent and you had no idea that you were diabetic?

 

I am asking questions that I have always wanted explained to me. Thanks so much!


 

I developed type 1 diabetes just a few months after I was married 38 years ago. I was 24. The tale end of the age the medical field will call it type 1. My symptoms were extreme. I was losing weight like crazy but how I knew I probably had diabetes is the very extreme thirst and going to the bathroom constantly. It was bad. And I had a brother that was a type 1 diabetic so I knew the signs. A few years after I was diagnosed I asked my doctor if there was a way I could find out at what capacity my pancreas was actually working. I found out that it was only functioning at 2%. I have an awesome husband that has probably saved my life a multiple of times since we've been married. I'm grateful he's stuck with me. Woman Happy

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Wow!!! That everybody is an individual with individualized treatment is true!!! Interesting story I have: all my doctors and nurse practitioners have been thrilled with my weight loss and my A1c of 5.1. This week in Diabetes Class my instructor asked us to guess what our glucose was running. I immediately piped up with "I don't know unless I test, so I test frequently and I go down into the sixties-but I have no symptoms.  A few times I've he post -prandials of 120, and I am starving: I don't know unless I test."  She shook her head....she discussed the neuropathies: I am there already-and sugars below 75 are just as dangerous as chronically elevated sugars. She recommended that I have Continnuous Glucose Monitoring so we can figure out what is going on.... I have known that I was on the low side and I have kept detailed records-but everybody was fixated on my A1c....I m seeing my doctor on Monday: this is scary stuff. Another thing that I think is throwing my caregivers off the track is that I have a positive rheumatoid factor and some weirdness going on with gamma globalism subtraction-and the pain I have in my hands and feet is not constant-or typical.....I can't wait to see what my doctor says....

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