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06-05-2017 02:37 PM
Why was my post removed and not the one to which I was referring? No bad words and if I broke the Community Standards, please tell me what it was. Would appreciate a reply.
hckynut(john)
06-05-2017 05:16 PM
I'm assuming the woman hasn't asked you for advice or your opinion. If you want to help just mind your own business and just listen and nod when she complains about her pain. She doesn't need and I'm she doesn't want any advice for you and you have nothing to offer her anyway. I'm sure her doctors are treating her and have advised her appropriately. In her current state a walk to the kitchen and back isn't going to help her...and you know that.
06-05-2017 08:07 PM
slightly off topic but....DH and I learned that helping out never works...step daughter is perfect example....she ALWAYS makes the wrong decision, we have helped her a lot (money, advice, etc) but about 5 years ago, we stopped 'helping'....she needs to wake up, take a long hard look at where she is at and change what is wrong...nothing we have said, or done has helped....now we just enjoy her company when we see her, and leave her life up to her.
06-05-2017 10:07 PM
Hi Terrier--You won't get blasted by me to mind your own business. You haven't ordered her to get up and do jumping jacks. You're intelligent enough to know that constantly sitting is bad for the body, it's common knowledge that getting up and moving, no matter what your age, is so important for your health.
No matter how flipping important some people think they are/were at their jobs, if they were sitting for long periods, they are in the same category as a couch potato. A paid couch potato.
Most likely this woman was never active and is now in a position she can't or doesn't want to start to become active. So she'll sit at her desk and moan, take pills for pain, blood pressure, etc.
If standing feels better for her as you said, imagine what walking--even just a little will do. It's good to be mobile, even if you have a desk job. Get up and walk around the office. Walk around your building during your breaks and after you've eaten lunch.
I would ask her in private, if she would be interested in walking with you during a break, or after lunch.
As far as picking her up if she falls, I don't think that's advisable as it could actually be a liability. You or your co-workers or even the woman herself could be hurt. I honestly think you need to call 911 if she should fall again.
Have to wonder why she fell. If she slipped, was something unsafe around her that could be a problem for her again and/or someone else? Or do you think it was perhaps the pain pills she's taking?
Being over 100 pounds overweight is a terrible place to be at, and she needs to start moving more or she won't be doing as well as she is, which doesn't seem like a good place to be, as time goes on. It will only get worse, that is a fact. No one gets better being overweight, immobile, in pain, high blood pressure. Who knows what other ailments is going on in her body that even she doesn't know about. Yet.
I commend you for caring.
06-05-2017 11:37 PM
@Mom2Dogs wrote:slightly off topic but....DH and I learned that helping out never works...step daughter is perfect example....she ALWAYS makes the wrong decision, we have helped her a lot (money, advice, etc) but about 5 years ago, we stopped 'helping'....she needs to wake up, take a long hard look at where she is at and change what is wrong...nothing we have said, or done has helped....now we just enjoy her company when we see her, and leave her life up to her.
I disagree. Obviously, helping out can and does work. Quite often.
We should tread carefully when the help is unsolicited. That's what lots of us here are saying. Your example is just one experience that addresses an entirely different situation.
I find it hard to believe that you're saying people shouldn't help each other out because it "never works". If so, I couldn't disagree more.
06-06-2017 12:01 AM - edited 06-06-2017 09:47 PM
@Lucky Charm wrote:Hi Terrier--You won't get blasted by me to mind your own business. You haven't ordered her to get up and do jumping jacks. You're intelligent enough to know that constantly sitting is bad for the body, it's common knowledge that getting up and moving, no matter what your age, is so important for your health.
No matter how flipping important some people think they are/were at their jobs, if they were sitting for long periods, they are in the same category as a couch potato. A paid couch potato.
Most likely this woman was never active and is now in a position she can't or doesn't want to start to become active. So she'll sit at her desk and moan, take pills for pain, blood pressure, etc.
If standing feels better for her as you said, imagine what walking--even just a little will do. It's good to be mobile, even if you have a desk job. Get up and walk around the office. Walk around your building during your breaks and after you've eaten lunch.
I would ask her in private, if she would be interested in walking with you during a break, or after lunch.
As far as picking her up if she falls, I don't think that's advisable as it could actually be a liability. You or your co-workers or even the woman herself could be hurt. I honestly think you need to call 911 if she should fall again.
Have to wonder why she fell. If she slipped, was something unsafe around her that could be a problem for her again and/or someone else? Or do you think it was perhaps the pain pills she's taking?
Being over 100 pounds overweight is a terrible place to be at, and she needs to start moving more or she won't be doing as well as she is, which doesn't seem like a good place to be, as time goes on. It will only get worse, that is a fact. No one gets better being overweight, immobile, in pain, high blood pressure. Who knows what other ailments is going on in her body that even she doesn't know about. Yet.
I commend you for caring.
I commend Terrier for caring too.
Yes, we all know that moving is better than not moving. This woman knows that. She also knows that she probably should have been more active sooner, and she knows that she's overweight. No one needs to point any of that out or potentially embarrass her.
It sounds as though Terrier already has asked the co-worker if she'd like to walk with her. Sometimes the co-worker does it, but most often she does not. IMO that's as far as it should go. This is not a close friend or family member. This is a co-worker. And no one should be invading her privacy unless she invites them to do so. She's entitled to go to work and do her job without co-workers speculating about her medical condition and prescriptions, and offering unsolicited advice. There's no doubt in my mind that Terrier is well-intentioned, but I think pushing in any way is a mistake and could lead to embarrassment and further difficulties for someone who may already be emotionally fragile as well as suffering physically.
You said that she may have other ailments that she doesn't know about, and you're right. But she also may have other ailments that she's aware of, but hasn't shared with Terrier and other co-workers, things she has chosen to keep private. Yes, she likely does need to start moving. But that's between her and the medical professionals who treat her, not people who happen to work where she does.
I do agree that 911 should be called if she falls again. For everyone's benefit.
eta: I just wanted to add that I don't think @terrier3 got "blasted". There are always going to be a few posters who are harsh, but most posters here simply offered their opinions, gave advice, and explained the reasons why.
06-06-2017 05:26 AM
I know you mean well and I applaud you for caring about your co-worker. I certainly will not tell you to mind your own business. What I suggest is that you keep an eye on her and if you see signs of distress either call it to the attention of your supervisor or human resources department. There is nothing you can do to help someone who will not help themselves. You sound like a caring person but I am afraid there is little you can do for the other woman except as I suggested, keep an eye on her.
06-06-2017 07:05 AM
@NYC Susan...possibly the word NEVER was harsh but we have learned with my DH daughter that she does exactly what she wants to do, even when she is offered good advice...her life is difficult because of her continued bad choices.
06-06-2017 08:02 PM
@151949 wrote:Maybe she is busy and trying to get her work done instead of marching around the office with you.
Actually no - she's busy reading us her doctor's reports, complaining or just not coming in to work.
She's in too much pain to get much work done.
06-06-2017 08:58 PM
@Mom2Dogs wrote:@NYC Susan...possibly the word NEVER was harsh but we have learned with my DH daughter that she does exactly what she wants to do, even when she is offered good advice...her life is difficult because of her continued bad choices.
I'm not saying there aren't situations when helping someone else isn't appreciated and isn't the best course of action. That wasn't my point at all. You've learned that it's best not to help one particular person, and of course that's your right and totally up to you.
But using that as a reason to never help anyone else makes no sense to me. That was my point.
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