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06-02-2018 04:44 PM
@FrostyBabe1 wrote:
@adamlambert wrote:Frosty, that's interesting. Exactly what tests does a physician request for determining a slow metabolism??
As I said up-thread, if you think this may be a problem for you, you'll need to consult with your own physician as to the appropriate diagnostic steps. I only mentioned it because it was pertinent to showing that the "formula" doesn't really work. I'm sure you'll understand that anything more specific to my own diagnosis is personal and therefore private.
Why post if you are not willing to share to help others? Makes me question your post.
06-02-2018 04:57 PM
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06-02-2018 06:07 PM
@FrostyBabe1 wrote:It might be a loose guideline from which to gain a general starting point, but for me personally, it wouldn't work.
My metabolism is on the slow side (yes, it's been confirmed thru medical testing). Even with 90 minutes of high intensity exercise 5 times a week, I gain weight if I eat more than 1200-1300 calories a day. That's gross, not net. I don't "eat back" any exercise calories. That's just how my body works.
I've had to fight to stay at a healthy weight my entire life. I finally developed the approach that my body is a machine, and food is the fuel that runs the machine. I go for the "highest octane", finest, most efficient fuel that I can get.
I had that test. It confirmed what I thought all my life. I truly do have an extremely low metabolism. I actually cried when the doctor reviewed the report with me. Tears of happiness because finally I had proof. Clinical proof that explained my lifetime of weight problems and why dieting really didn't work for me. That knowledge actually helped me lose 50lbs. I have to keep my calories at 1100 to lose weight but I can't go below 900 because that will put me in starvation mode. I found a great Wellness program with meal replacements and I eat a minimum of 5 servings of veggies and fruits a day. Walking 45 minutes a day too. And I'll still never be thin or average weight. I don't think about the scale. I go by dress size. 12/14 is my optimum weight. That's when I am healthy, strong and fit.
06-02-2018 06:11 PM
@RetRN wrote:
@FrostyBabe1 wrote:
@adamlambert wrote:Frosty, that's interesting. Exactly what tests does a physician request for determining a slow metabolism??
As I said up-thread, if you think this may be a problem for you, you'll need to consult with your own physician as to the appropriate diagnostic steps. I only mentioned it because it was pertinent to showing that the "formula" doesn't really work. I'm sure you'll understand that anything more specific to my own diagnosis is personal and therefore private.
Why post if you are not willing to share to help others? Makes me question your post.
ITA
06-02-2018 07:10 PM
@AdamlambertI did a Bod Pod assessment, too. It was tough at first, being claustraphobic, but I can do it now with no problems. Yes, that thing is super accurate!
06-04-2018 08:07 AM
@chrystaltree wrote:
@FrostyBabe1 wrote:It might be a loose guideline from which to gain a general starting point, but for me personally, it wouldn't work.
My metabolism is on the slow side (yes, it's been confirmed thru medical testing). Even with 90 minutes of high intensity exercise 5 times a week, I gain weight if I eat more than 1200-1300 calories a day. That's gross, not net. I don't "eat back" any exercise calories. That's just how my body works.
I've had to fight to stay at a healthy weight my entire life. I finally developed the approach that my body is a machine, and food is the fuel that runs the machine. I go for the "highest octane", finest, most efficient fuel that I can get.
I had that test. It confirmed what I thought all my life. I truly do have an extremely low metabolism. I actually cried when the doctor reviewed the report with me. Tears of happiness because finally I had proof. Clinical proof that explained my lifetime of weight problems and why dieting really didn't work for me. That knowledge actually helped me lose 50lbs. I have to keep my calories at 1100 to lose weight but I can't go below 900 because that will put me in starvation mode. I found a great Wellness program with meal replacements and I eat a minimum of 5 servings of veggies and fruits a day. Walking 45 minutes a day too. And I'll still never be thin or average weight. I don't think about the scale. I go by dress size. 12/14 is my optimum weight. That's when I am healthy, strong and fit.
Not sure I understand. Is this since your gastric bypass surgery?
06-04-2018 08:33 AM
Interesting, well this rough guide works for me. At my last check up the office said I was 5' 4 and 1/2 inches (gotta keep that extra half inch) LOL. Anyway using an old formula of 100 pounds for 5' and then 5 pounds for every inch over that would put my ideal weight at 122.5 pounds. Multiply by 10 and I get a weight loss daily calorie estimate of about 1200 calories. That is what I limit myself to and I am losing about 1 pound a week. I wish the loss was faster but it is probably better for my body and my 60 plus year old skin to take it slower. I had my metabolism checked once at a gym several years ago. I was sure it would be slow as I was so overweight and had trouble losing. Ha! My metabolism was normal if not a little high. The staff told me that ironically those at higher weights tended to have faster metabolisms because they ate more on a daily basis....needless to say that burst my bubble about my slow metabolism excuse. Of course I was a lot younger then too. It would be interesting to get my metabolism tested now after about 7 months of dieting. Hopefully it has not slowed to a crawl.
06-04-2018 08:41 AM
I also agree that all calories are not the same.If you are cutting back it is even more important that you eat high quality foods. Since starting 1200 calories daily I eat several servings of vegetables, 2 fruits and good quality protein at every meal and traditional oatmeal in the AM. No sugar, flour or processed foods. I feel great!
06-04-2018 02:05 PM
@sidsmom wrote:
@phoenixbrd wrote:more importantly.... not all calories are the same
Of course! The voice of reason!
If one wants the burden of tracking anything,
track FAT and/or FIBER grams.
20-40 fat grams
100 fiber grams
Some days it’s easy, some days it’s not.
Just a good guideline.
If one eats to Calorie Density, though, your body will release any
weight naturally to ‘right the ship’. You don’t have to think about it.
Low fat, whole foods, plant based....eat ad libitum.
The human body consumes 3-5lbs of food a day.
Choose wisely.
I'm a little slow on the uptake today. Can you please explain what you mean by "If one eats to calorie density". Are you saying simply eating from the GO list?
I had 1/6 of an avocado and a piece of dry Ezekiel toast this morning. Of course the trusty cronometer told me I can eat nothing but GO items to bring that fat ratio down.
I joined a facebook group this morning run by a friend who is involved in a multi-level marketing "beachy" type product. Sadly, she keeps gaining weight. She knows how I eat and how my body has changed yet she seems to dig her heels in and feels her workouts are all important. I want to share your chart with her in hopes she will be motivated.
Thanks for always sharing your knowledge with us!
06-04-2018 02:54 PM
We have many sensors in our stomach.
Satiation/fullness sensors is what we strive for for little calories/fat.
There are tons of resources which can probably explain better
than me (!), this being a really good video.
Here’s another visual way to look at it.
Apples, applesauce, dried apples, apple juice...is another good way
to think about calorie density. The more fiber & water which is
removed & more processed...the higher the calories for
the same amount of weight.
Another way to think...even as a non-plant-based eater,
any seasoned Weight Watcher will understand most ‘free’ or 0 point
foods will be vegetables & fruits due to the fiber/water/etc.
HTH! 🌼💛🥗
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