Healthy Eating Can Become Unhealthy Obsession - Page 8

Trinity11 · ‎11-16-2014

Cherry is talking about Dr. McDougal's inability to understand that a fasting 300 blood sugar is an unacceptable level. It can lead to diabetic ketoacidosis. Clearly, eliminating meat and added oils does not put all diabetics into remission. In fact as a Type 1 diabetic the diet prescribed by our plant based poster only made me sicker. High cholesterol and double the amount of insulin was my result. Running blood sugars of 250 puts a great toll on the kidneys and I was tired the entire 3 months I consumed only plants. Even my cardiologist told me to stop whatever I was doing immediately.

In regard to Type 2 diabetics and remission...many Type 2 diabetics differ in just how much insulin they produce. Many (Proved by a C-Peptide test) produce little to no insulin and a plant based diet will make them sicker.

No one size fits all dietary advice should ever be prescribed to patients. Anyone with a medical or scientific background understands that fact.

sidsmom · ‎11-25-2011

Again, y’all don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.

Since you guys are so incredibly obsessed with Dr. McDougall,

he specially says, “my patients begin strictly following the

McDougall Diet (low fat Plant Based) and exercising daily‘ when

referring to higher BS numbers. Eating a low fat plant based diet

will automatically begin reducing BS numbers.

Don’t know why that is so hard to understand.

But agian, all this has NOTHING to do with the original topic.

An addiction is between the ears.

Many would say maintaining a preventable illness, like T2D,

is an addiction.

Being of good health is not an addiction.

It’s what we should all strive for.

Lord....how far our society has gone off track to demonize good health.

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

cherry · ‎03-09-2010

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Diabetes Myths

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If you’re overweight, will you always develop type 2 diabetes?

Being overweight is a risk factor for developing diabetes, but other risk factors such as how much physical activity you get, family history, ethnicity, and age also play a role. Unfortunately, many people think that weight is the only risk factor for type 2 diabetes, but many people with type 2 diabetes are at a normal weight or only moderately overweight.

Is diabetes caused by eating sugar?

A diet high in calories from any source (including sugar) contributes to weight gain and weight gain increases your risk for type 2 diabetes. Type 1 diabetes is caused by genetics and unknown factors that trigger the onset of the disease. Type 2 diabetes is not caused by sugar, but by genetics and lifestyle factors.

Do sugary drinks cause diabetes?

Research has also shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes. The American Diabetes Association recommends that people avoid drinking sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent type 2 diabetes.

Sugary drinks also raise blood glucose (also called blood sugar) and can provide several hundred calories in just one serving. Just one 12-ounce can of regular soda has about 150 calories and 40 grams of carbohydrate. This is the same amount of carbohydrate in 10 teaspoons of sugar!

Sugar-sweetened beverages include beverages like:

Regular soda
Fruit punch
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Energy drinks
Sports drinks
Sweet tea
Other sugary drinks

Is diabetes a serious disease?

Diabetes causes more deaths per year than breast cancer and AIDS combined, and having diabetes nearly doubles your chance of having a heart attack. The good news is that managing your diabetes can reduce your risk for diabetes complications.

Do people with diabetes need to eat special foods?

A healthy meal plan for people with diabetes is generally the same as healthy eating for anyone – low in saturated fat, moderate in salt and sugar, with meals based on lean protein, non-starchy vegetables, whole grains, healthy fats, and fruit. Foods that say they are healthier for people with diabetes generally offer no special benefit. Most of them still raise blood glucose levels, are more expensive, and can also have a laxative effect if they contain sugar alcohols.

If you have diabetes, do you have to only eat small amounts of starchy foods, such as bread, potatoes and pasta?

Starchy foods can be part of a healthy meal plan, but portion size is key. Breads, cereals, pasta, rice (whole grain options are better), and starchy vegetables like potatoes, yams, peas, and corn can be included in your meals and snacks.

How much carbohydrate can a person with diabetes eat?

The amount of carbohydrate you need will vary based on many factors. You and your health care team can figure out the right amount for you. Once you know how much carb to eat, choose your food and portion sizes to match.

Can people with diabetes can't eat sweets or chocolate?

If eaten as part of a healthy meal plan, or combined with exercise, sweets and desserts can be eaten by people with diabetes. They are no more "off limits" to people with diabetes than they are to people without diabetes. The key to sweets is to have a very small portion and save them for special occasions so you focus your meal on more healthful foods.

Can you catch diabetes from someone else?

No. Although we don't know exactly why some people develop diabetes and others don’t, we know diabetes is not contagious. It can't be caught like a cold or flu. There seems to be some genetic link in diabetes, particularly type 2 diabetes.

Are people with diabetes more likely to get colds and other illnesses?

You are no more likely to get a cold or another illness if you have diabetes. People with diabetes are advised to get flu shots. This is because any illness can make diabetes more difficult to control, and people with diabetes who get the flu are more likely than others to go on to develop serious complications.

If you have type 2 diabetes and your doctor says you need to start using insulin, does it mean you're failing to take care of your diabetes properly?

Using insulin to get blood glucose levels to a healthy level is a good thing, not a bad one. For most people, type 2 diabetes is a progressive disease. When first diagnosed, many people with type 2 diabetes can keep their blood glucose at a healthy level with a combination of meal planning, physical activity, and taking oral medications. But over time, the body gradually produces less and less of its own insulin, and eventually oral medications may not be enough to keep blood glucose levels in a healthy range.

Fruit is a healthy food, so is it ok to eat as much of it as you want?

Because fruits contain carbohydrates, they do raise blood glucose and that needs to be taken into consideration when meal planning. Still, fruit is a healthy food containing fiber and lots of vitamins and minerals, so talk to your dietitian about the amount, frequency, and types of fruits you should eat.

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Trinity11 · ‎11-16-2014

@sidsmom wrote:
Again, y’all don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.
Since you guys are so incredibly obsessed with Dr. McDougall,
he specially says, “my patients begin strictly following the
McDougall Diet (low fat Plant Based) and exercising daily‘ when
referring to higher BS numbers. Eating a low fat plant based diet
will automatically begin reducing BS numbers.
Don’t know why that is so hard to understand.

But agian, all this has NOTHING to do with the original topic.
An addiction is between the ears.
Many would say maintaining a preventable illness, like T2D,
is an addiction.

Being of good health is not an addiction.
It’s what we should all strive for.
Lord....how far our society has gone off track to demonize good health.
🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Speaking of ignorance....Type 2 diabetes is not a preventable disease for all. Many Type 2 diabetics do NOT produce adequate amounts of insulin in order to maintain normal blood sugars. This has nothing to do with an "addiction."

Shaming people for being sick is one of the worst things I have ever seen on the internet and speaks to the ignorance of the person doing it......

cherry · ‎03-09-2010

I didn't even get a diabetes diagnosis till I was 66, my thyroid went wonky, at the same time

Your thyroid controls everything in your body... my parents both had late onset diabetes...some things in life you can't change, you can only do your best to live with it

So to all my diabetic friends ,value your health enough ,to talk to your Dr before you make any major changes in your diet

tansy · ‎01-02-2011

McDougall: “At the same time medication changes are being made, my patients begin strictly following the McDougall Diet and exercising daily (slowly at first). I ask them to monitor their blood sugars (fasting) every morning with their home measuring unit and report the results to me daily. Based on these blood sugar numbers their insulin injection dosage is either raised or lowered for that evening or the next day. The goal is to keep their fasting blood sugars between 150 mg/dL and 300 mg/dL. I discourage blood sugar measurements at any other time of the day unless they suspect hypoglycemia (too low a sugar). The finding of elevated sugars later in the day after eating just upsets the patient and does not add any useful information in deciding on the next dosage of insulin to be given”.

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A fasting glucose level of 150 equates to an A1c of 6.85.

A fasting glucose level of 300 equates to an A1c of 12.08!

Those kind of numbers will lead to all kinds of complications, including blindness and amputations.

My fasting blood sugar sugar this morning was 98, a number I achieved with eating low carb yesterday. Pretty simple.

Trinity11 · ‎11-16-2014

@tansy wrote:
McDougall: “At the same time medication changes are being made, my patients begin strictly following the McDougall Diet and exercising daily (slowly at first). I ask them to monitor their blood sugars (fasting) every morning with their home measuring unit and report the results to me daily. Based on these blood sugar numbers their insulin injection dosage is either raised or lowered for that evening or the next day. The goal is to keep their fasting blood sugars between 150 mg/dL and 300 mg/dL. I discourage blood sugar measurements at any other time of the day unless they suspect hypoglycemia (too low a sugar). The finding of elevated sugars later in the day after eating just upsets the patient and does not add any useful information in deciding on the next dosage of insulin to be given”.

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A fasting glucose level of 150 equates to an A1c of 6.85.
A fasting glucose level of 300 equates to an A1c of 12.08!

Those kind of numbers will lead to all kinds of complications, including blindness and amputations.

My fasting blood sugar sugar this morning was 98, a number I achieved with eating low carb yesterday. Pretty simple.

Dr. McDougall ....Upsets the patient to have high blood sugar??????? Well, it should because it will be a lot more "upsetting" when due to high blood sugars they end up with an amputation, blindness or ketoacidosis!!

Yes, @tansy a low carbohydrate diet or a reduced carbohydrate diet tailored to a particular patient's medical profile is what works!

Just a simple test on a diabetic's glucometer will prove that a low carb diet works...

cherry · ‎03-09-2010

Diabetics are told to eat to their meter. That is the only reliable way for them to know what ,and how much, they should eat

jubilant · ‎06-10-2010

My mother has diabetes. She was diagnosed with it in her 60's. She will be 90 in a couple of months. For several years now, macular degeneration has been trying to take her eyesight in one eye and diabetes is trying to take it in the other. She watches her numbers very closely and her eating. Her eye doctors say THIS is why she still has her eyesight and most probably will till her time comes. She is 4'll and weighs about 120 lbs. Her discipline has really paid off!