Wellness

[QueenDanceALot]

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@ILTH wrote:

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@mom2four0418 wrote:

This is from the National Eating Disorders Association. Looking down on what others eat is but one possible symptom. As with all eating disorders, the person who suffers the most, is the one with the eating disorder.

WARNING SIGNS & SYMPTOMS OF ORTHOREXIA

• Compulsive checking of ingredient lists and nutritional labels
• An increase in concern about the health of ingredients
• Cutting out an increasing number of food groups (all sugar, all carbs, all dairy, all meat, all animal products)
• An inability to eat anything but a narrow group of foods that are deemed ‘healthy’ or ‘pure’
• Unusual interest in the health of what others are eating
• Spending hours per day thinking about what food might be served at upcoming events
• Showing high levels of distress when ‘safe’ or ‘healthy’ foods aren’t available
• Obsessive following of food and ‘healthy lifestyle’ blogs on Twitter and Instagram
• Body image concerns may or may not be present

HEALTH CONSEQUENCES OF ORTHOREXIA

Like anorexia, orthorexia involves restriction of the amount and variety of foods eaten, making malnutrition likely. Therefore, the two disorders share many of the same physical consequences. 

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Some of us cut out a "group" of foods because our bodies don't tolerate them.  That's not Orthorexia, it's self preservation.  

If a person cuts out all sugar, I can't see how they will develop some sort of malnutrition from it.  And some of us don't tolerate dairy and suffer no deficiencies from avoiding it.  

There is a group here (and elsewhere) that insist we eat all things "in moderation", not considering that a "moderate" amount of some things is quite problematic for some.

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That's not what they're talking about. Of course people cut out what makes them sick.
Most people (without a medical condition that precludes it), however, can tolerate 1 cookie once in awhile. Most people aren't afraid of a 90/10% approach.
Fruit is sugar. Many with orthorexia are afraid of fruit, for example.

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I was simply responding to some of the "warning signs" listed.

And regarding fruit - it's a whole food package, with nutrients and fiber, which pure sugar does not have.  It's odd to me that "sugar" would be listed as a food group in the above.  It's not a food group.

But, whatever.  I think more and more that people have worse obsessions than avoiding certain foods.

But here it seems that some like to beat people over the head about their particular food choices, and others like to insist that their way is the only way.

It's gotten kind of tedious.

[Naturesbeauty]

A plan that I always go back to: The 90/10 Weight-Loss Plan. By: Joy Bauer The 90/10 Plan is a balance healthy and nutritious foods, with just enough Fun Foods to keep you happily motivated to stick with your goal. On the 90/10 Plan everything your body needs and wants is part of the program, including hundreds of your favorite brand-name snacks and treats so you won’t feel deprived and temped to cheat. I love this book. I have been able to pretty much implement it into my Nutrisystem Food.

[World Traveler]

@Naturesbeauty Sounds like something most people could follow. As long as I can have my chocolate ice cream once in a while, I'm a happy camper. 

[Naturesbeauty]

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@World Traveler wrote:

@Naturesbeauty Sounds like something most people could follow. As long as I can have my chocolate ice cream once in a while, I'm a happy camper. 

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@World Traveler.....As soon as one denies themselves something, it sets them up for failure. Everything in moderation works.........🍫🍪🍪🍩🍦🍨🍿🍷🍹🍸🍺. One must enjoy the pleasures in life with moderation.

[World Traveler]

@Naturesbeauty Totally agree. Although I can do strict diets for short periods of time, I do much better with an eating plan that won't be sabotaged if I want my Haagen Daaz ice cream once in a while. 

[GingerPeach]

Such an obsession can indeed be unhealthy, but on the other side of the spectrum, if it's true that our nation is pretty much overweight (I know this may be in dispute), then it may be that not enough folks read or make use of labels.

[hckynut]

If we want to get right down to it? Any action: eating/walking/swimming/ice skating/running, etc.etc.etc!  At what point is it called an obsession  by outsiders not participating to the "whatever"? Is it 1 hour a day/10 hours a week/2,000 calories/eating nothing but veggies, and on and on!

Who exactly sets the standards between between being an activity one happens to enjoy, or get more out of, than those not involved?  My feeling is this: only the person, doing the "whatever", knows when they feel it is/might be/could possibly turn into an obsession. 

As far as eating? What I eat I would not in a million years suggest any one else follow. What I do know is that way of eating, is right now the best it could be for me. This is relative to me being healthy and in the upper percentage of males 30+ years my junior when it comes to tested physical fitness protocols for Coronary and Pulmonary efficiency.

Am I obsessed? Not in my book or my mind.

hckynut

[Naturesbeauty]

@hckynut giving you a 👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 All I know is I am SICK & TIRED of hearing about the KETO Diet! This reminds me 20 years ago it was the AKTINS Diet! If the diet works for you that’s a good thing, but it doesn’t work for everyone! FAD DIETS DON’T WORK LONG TERM.......! What ever happened to Suzanne Somers Somersize 😱 remember it was about not mixing certain foods together.

[novamc1]

@Naturesbeauty 

You're right to a great extent, in my humble opinion.

I've posted elsewhere that the so-called Keto diet was a fad when I was in high school in the 1960s.  I also posted that a  high-school friend who wanted to lose weight that  she didn't even need to lose was on a no-carb/high protein diet  of nothing but hard-cooked eggs.

 If the fad was so popular in the 1960s (when obesity among Americans was visibly less prevalent), should we conclude that any of these diet plans really work for everyone?  OR NOT?????

Seems to me that more Americans than ever are tipping the scales a little too high, while the number of weight-loss "cures"  and "diet plans" keep growing all the time.

Have we learned anything since the 1960s about nutrition and health, OR NOT????

Just askin'.

[QueenDanceALot]

We are second only to Mexico as the fattest nation on earth.

There is certainly no shortage of diet "plans" out there, but how many people actually follow them?  Accurate data is seemingly impossible to obtain regarding compliance as "self-reporting" is notoriously inaccurate.