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I found this online.  I wondered if green tree was hydrating or dehydrating.

 

"Juices and sports drinks are also hydrating -- you can lower the sugar content by diluting them with water. Coffee and tea also count in your tally. Many used to believe that they were dehydrating, but that myth has been debunked. The diuretic effect does not offset hydration"

 

"Fruits are an excellent source for water. Watermelon is 90% water, so it ranks highest on the list. Oranges, grapefruit, and melons like cantaloupe and honeydew are also strong contenders."

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I think a lot of people think of they drink lots and lots of water when it's hot outside and they're sweating like crazy that's all they need to do....not so.

 

While it is very, very important to drink lots of water (keeps kidney's working well), when sweating a lot it's important to drink something (doesn't have to be this but something similar) to Gatorade, etc.  Something that will replace the electrolytes the body needs.

 

I have a dear friend who's my age (71).  He's a farmer and in the summer gets out in his garden sweating like crazy!  He says, "It's OK, I'm drinking water".  I keep telling him, he needs to replace the electrolytes he's loosing by sweating.  So I go to the store and get him some Gatorade (that's what he'll drink).

 

I've read that it doesn't take a lot of something that has electrolytes but it needs to be substantial enough to replace them. 

 

I found this explanation:

Many people do not fully understand the importance of electrolytes. The severe consequences that can result from an imbalance of electrolytes only confirms how vital they are to our bodies. Below you will find out what electrolytes are, their importance, and how to replenish them.

What is an Electrolyte?

Electrolytes are salts that become charged molecules, called ions, when they are dissolved in a liquid. Their electrical charges and ability to conduct electricity helps the body to send electrical signals from one cell to another. The different types of electrolytes include sodium, potassium, chloride, bicarbonate, calcium, sulfate, magnesium and phosphate.

Electrolytes are Essential

Electrolytes maintain the electric voltage throughout your cells so that signals can pass easily. Several bodily functions are dependent on this electrical communication that electrolytes help carry. They include regulating nerve and muscle function, acidity levels and fluid levels. An imbalance of electrolytes have dire consequences. For example, bicarbonate is an electrolyte that is responsible for regulating muscles like the heart. Insufficient levels of bicarbonate would result in irregular heart beats, which may be fatal.

Maintaining an Electrolyte Balance

The balance of electrolytes in your body can be changed easily by sweating, vomiting and diarrhea. That is why it is important to replenish them. Electrolytes are found in a well-balanced diet that is rich in vegetables and fruit. People who exercise regularly should replace their electrolytes by drinking sports drinks that are fortified with potassium and sodium.

Electrolytes and their importance to the human body is undeniable. The body functions and systems they support are vitally extensive. It is difficult for our bodies to survive without them. But with better knowledge and understanding, we can learn to easily replace them.

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WATER ALONE IS ADEQUATE 

Don’t worry about drinking lost electrolytes as long as you are eating solid foods and getting plenty of plain H20. Electrolytes lost from sweat are replaced through food, and plain water is what your body prefers for adequate rehydration.

  • Eat foods high in electrolytes. This is not difficult to do when eating a plant-based diet. For instance high potassium fruits include banana, dates, raisins, coconut and avocado. Vegetable sources include spinach, beans, lentils and potato.
  • Do not restrict salt in the diet. Adding extra salt to foods after a period of heavy sweating is beneficial for hydration. Salt helps retain fluid in the body to keep us hydrated and is the one most depleted from sweating. The highest concentration of electrolytes lost from sweat is from sodium and chloride (i.e. table salt) followed by potassium.
  • Drink enough water. Most people underestimate the amount of water they have lost through sweat and consequently do not drink enough to replace it. When the body is dehydrated it does not function as efficiently. The blood gets thicker and the heart must work harder to pump and transport blood through the body. This also makes it much harder for the muscles to utilize nutrients. How much water should you drink? It depends. The common 8 oz of water 8 times per day is likely not going to be suffice when active outdoors. You’ll have to add more fluids depending on the activity, climate, your overall body composition and health status. The litmus test of dehydration is the color of your urine. If it is dark yellow or brown, you are not drinking enough water. If it is clear to light yellow, you are drinking enough. Fluorescent yellow urine means you are probably taking vitamins and are excreting out excess water-soluble vitamins, such as B2 and C.
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As far as drinkables - I figure it in as long as it doesn't have caffeine or sugar in it.   I really don't do caffeine, anyway, but I figure that anything that has caffeine and/or sugar in it is not nearly as hydrating as just water, or anything without those things in it.

 

That said, I do make sure I drink a certain amount of water each day.  But if I have a decaf tea, some sort of juice concoction, etc, I figure that's helping.  

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Well I'm not a Dr nor am I a nurse.  I only know what I've read in many different places.

 

Here's yet another report about drinking water alone if you are working out or sweating is not enough.

 

Why Water Alone Doesn’t Hydrate the Body: Dehydration, Minerals, & Adrenal Exhaustion

 
www.mypicshares.com

If you have been dutifully drinking your 8 eight-ounce glasses of water daily, here’s why you aren’t getting the benefits you believe you are:

Tap water and bottled water are purported to contain some minerals, varying in content from source to source.

However, most bottled water is expensive and may not be any better than tap water, which can have dangerous substances in it such as remnants of pharmaceutical drugs and other chemicals, heavy metals like chromium, lead, and arsenic, plus the added chemicals fluoride and chlorine.

According to this report from ABC News:

“20/20″ took five bottles of national brands of bottled water and a sample of tap water from a drinking fountain in the middle of New York City and sent them to microbiologist Aaron Margolin of the University of New Hampshire to test for bacteria that can make you sick, like e. coli. “There was actually no difference between the New York City tap water and the bottled waters that we evaluated,” he said.

According to Body Ecology:

  • Tap water is municipal water that comes out of the faucets and has been treated, processed and disinfected. It is purified with chlorine and generally has added flouride. But one of the byproducts from using chlorine in our drinking water is linked to cancer1.
  • Distilled water can be any kind of water that has been vaporized and collected, leaving behind any solid residues, including minerals. Distilled water has no minerals in it at all.
  • Reverse osmosis water has been forced through membranes that remove larger particles, pollutants and minerals. Reverse osmosis water is usually acidic2.
  • Deionized water has had ionized impurities and minerals removed from it but not bacteria or pathogens.

In general, most of the water available is lacking in essential minerals we need for health. Mineral deficiencies can cause just about every major disease and symptom known to humankind including rapid heartbeat, headaches (including migraines), 

If you are chronically dehydrated, you may be suffering from symptoms of adrenal exhaustion:
  • Sugar cravings
  • Salt cravings
  • Fatigue
  • Feeling thirsty or dehydrated, and need to drink a lot of water at one time
  • Sleep issues: falling asleep, wake in the night or wake early in the morning
  • Tension, nervousness, anxiety or panic

Adrenal glands are found just above your kidneys, and in combination with your thyroid, work to generate energy for your body. Together, these organs secrete critical hormones for health including something called aldosterone. This hormone is secreted by your adrenals and regulates the concentration of minerals and water levels in the body – such as sodium and other minerals – to keep you hydrated.

Another important job your adrenal glands have is to regulate the body’s response to stress. In modern life, stress is frequent and acute, thus creating a constant state of adrenal fatigue. This issue is so rampant, in fact, most people suffer from it – especially women. The more stress you have, the more hormones like aldosterone and salt circulate in the body.  As stress levels begin to fall, aldosterone tapers off and sodium must exit the bloodstream. Your kidneys process salt, and as it leaves your body in the form of urine, water goes with it.

So, the more stress you experience, the weaker your adrenal glands will become, which means the more you will have to rehydrate. That’s why even if you are drinking water all day long, you may not be getting the rehydration through adequate mineral repletion your body needs for good health.

What can we do to obtain enough minerals in our diets?
  • Drink nettles infusions
  • Make and consume bone broths from the bones of pastured animals and birds (cattle, bison, lamb, poultry, etc.)
  • Eat foods from pastured animals and birds – meat, eggs, poultry, dairy, raw milk
  • Eat cultured foods – yogurt, kefir, sour cream, cultured vegetables made from home
  • Use cell salts homeopathic tablets or liquid minerals – add the liquid minerals to your filtered water and stocks and soups you make at home. I have been using Best Process Trace Minerals as recommended by my Naturopath, and I’m noticing a huge difference in the way I feel.
  • Drink mineral water or filtered water with added minerals, fresh squeezed lemon or lime juice, or unsweetened cranberry juice
13 more ways to rehydrate and nourish your adrenal glands:
  1. Make sure to consume plenty of liquid gradually throughout the day, and  don’t wait until you feel thirsty to drink a large amount.  If you drink too fast, you risk diluting your blood, which may cause faster excretion of water by the kidneys. Everyone needs different amounts of liquid, but a good rule of thumb is to drink half your weight in ounces. If you weigh 150, drink 75 ounces. This can be mineral water or water with minerals added. Fulvic acid is an excellent substance to add to water.
  2. During meals, consume 4 ounces of liquid or less. Drinking more than this dilutes the hydrochloric acid and other stomach juuices your body produces to properly digest your food.  Small amounts of warm or hot liquid such as bone broths, or cultured vegetable juices, or other fermented drinks like water kefir or kombucha will help you to digest your food better.
  3. Avoid processed, packaged, and junk foods. Make sure you are eating a healthy diet with real food with plenty of healthy fats and proteins.
  4. During and after you exercise, make sure you replace lost fluids with water. When we exert ourselves and sweat, our bodies lose salt and minerals, so replacing them is critical.
  5. Avoid beverages and chemicals such as alcohol, soda, and coffee. These substances cause mineral depletion.  Coffee, tea, soda, and alcohol are diuretics and cause the body to release liquid and minerals.  The kidneys are triggered to excrete water but  by triggering the kidneys to excrete pure water without releasing toxins stored in the body.
  6. Consume kelp, dulse, nori, or other sea vegetables. These foods are a good source of minerals. Kelp flakes are a very good addition to your diet and are extremely versatile for adding to soups, stews, casseroles, and many other meals as they don’t change the taste of your food.
  7. Consume safe-source seafood.  As well as being a rich source of Vitamins like A and E and Omega 3 essential fatty acids, these foods are some of the best sources of important minerals available: especially iodine, selenium, and zinc.
  8. Consume plenty of proteins and fats from animals and birds on pasture. Grassfed meats and poultry, eggs, raw dairy foods like butter, milk, yogurt, and kefir, pork, lamb, bison, and other meats and animal products from healthy animals raised on pasture or range. These foods are naturally higher in minerals than their conventional counterparts, as well as Omega 3 essential fatty acids, fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E, and K, and CLA (conjugated linoleic acid, an important antioxidant).
  9. Take a good quality, bioavailable mineral supplement. Dr. Ron Schmid, ND, recommends Cal 1000 – Mag 500 Hydroxapatite Plus. This supplement is made of the bones of grass-fed animals from New Zealand and is one of the most highly-absorbable forms of minerals available. Another good supplement from a plant-derived source is Morningstar Minerals Energy Boost 70 Supplement. Plant sources are another bioavailable source of minerals since we get our minerals directly from plants as well as animals.
  10. Use topical magnesium oil, gel, bath flakes, or lotion.  This transdermal oil is a great way to obtain enough magnesium, especially if you have compromised digestion. It bypasses your digestive system by soaking directly into the skin and into the bloodstream, and can help you avoid one of the main side-effects of magnesium supplements – mal-absorption and diarrhea.
  11. Use a good water filter.  Our family uses the Big Berkey water filtration system and we love it. They are easy to assemble and use, and if for some reason there is a situation where water supplies are cut off, you can use your system to filter out pond or river water. Berkey also has a fluoride filter available as well. Avoid distilled as most of the minerals are removed in those processes. Although reverse osmosis water removes everything, another alternative is to add fulvic minerals or liquid ionic minerals.
  12. Control blood sugar levels by eating regularly throughout the day. Elevated blood sugar causes osmotic diuresis, where the sugar exits through your kidneys and carries water out with it into the urine. As a result, your kidneys are unable to reabsorb the water. Body Ecology once again provides you with an excellent solution. Fermented foods and beverages that are naturally sour take away cravings for sugars. You’ll find yourself feeling quite satisfied with the natural sugars in foods like carrots and fruit.
  13. Manage stress and get to bed at an early hour. Sleep gives your body a chance to repair and is critical for nourishing the adrenal glands and allows for repair and restoration.

Drinking water to support your adrenal glands is only part of the whole equation.  Everyone needs adequate amounts of water to live, and we need healthy adrenals to maintain fluid and mineral balance in our bodies, but a healthy diet and lifestyle are also essential to keeping the mineral levels in your body to help you stay hydrated too. If you are drinking a lot of water and still feeling dehydrated, or if you have symptoms of adrenal exhaustion, replenish your adrenals with these recommendations.

 

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@mousiegirlwrote:

@Annabellethecat66

 

WATER ALONE IS ADEQUATE 

Don’t worry about drinking lost electrolytes as long as you are eating solid foods and getting plenty of plain H20. Electrolytes lost from sweat are replaced through food, and plain water is what your body prefers for adequate rehydration.

  • Eat foods high in electrolytes. This is not difficult to do when eating a plant-based diet. For instance high potassium fruits include banana, dates, raisins, coconut and avocado. Vegetable sources include spinach, beans, lentils and potato.
  • Do not restrict salt in the diet. Adding extra salt to foods after a period of heavy sweating is beneficial for hydration. Salt helps retain fluid in the body to keep us hydrated and is the one most depleted from sweating. The highest concentration of electrolytes lost from sweat is from sodium and chloride (i.e. table salt) followed by potassium.
  • Drink enough water. Most people underestimate the amount of water they have lost through sweat and consequently do not drink enough to replace it. When the body is dehydrated it does not function as efficiently. The blood gets thicker and the heart must work harder to pump and transport blood through the body. This also makes it much harder for the muscles to utilize nutrients. How much water should you drink? It depends. The common 8 oz of water 8 times per day is likely not going to be suffice when active outdoors. You’ll have to add more fluids depending on the activity, climate, your overall body composition and health status. The litmus test of dehydration is the color of your urine. If it is dark yellow or brown, you are not drinking enough water. If it is clear to light yellow, you are drinking enough. Fluorescent yellow urine means you are probably taking vitamins and are excreting out excess water-soluble vitamins, such as B2 and C.

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Totally agree water is adequate.

I would counter the idea of ‘do not restrict salt in the diet’, though.

NO one needs to ‘add salt’.   

Even the most athletic of athletes don’t need to ‘add a little bit.’

I would say 99.9999% of Americans eat way too much sodium. 

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@mousiegirlwrote:

@Annabellethecat66

 

WATER ALONE IS ADEQUATE 

Don’t worry about drinking lost electrolytes as long as you are eating solid foods and getting plenty of plain H20. Electrolytes lost from sweat are replaced through food, and plain water is what your body prefers for adequate rehydration.

  • Eat foods high in electrolytes. This is not difficult to do when eating a plant-based diet. For instance high potassium fruits include banana, dates, raisins, coconut and avocado. Vegetable sources include spinach, beans, lentils and potato.
  • Do not restrict salt in the diet. Adding extra salt to foods after a period of heavy sweating is beneficial for hydration. Salt helps retain fluid in the body to keep us hydrated and is the one most depleted from sweating. The highest concentration of electrolytes lost from sweat is from sodium and chloride (i.e. table salt) followed by potassium.
  • Drink enough water. Most people underestimate the amount of water they have lost through sweat and consequently do not drink enough to replace it. When the body is dehydrated it does not function as efficiently. The blood gets thicker and the heart must work harder to pump and transport blood through the body. This also makes it much harder for the muscles to utilize nutrients. How much water should you drink? It depends. The common 8 oz of water 8 times per day is likely not going to be suffice when active outdoors. You’ll have to add more fluids depending on the activity, climate, your overall body composition and health status. The litmus test of dehydration is the color of your urine. If it is dark yellow or brown, you are not drinking enough water. If it is clear to light yellow, you are drinking enough. Fluorescent yellow urine means you are probably taking vitamins and are excreting out excess water-soluble vitamins, such as B2 and C.

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Totally agree water is adequate.

I would counter the idea of ‘do not restrict salt in the diet’, though.

NO one needs to ‘add salt’.   

Even the most athletic of athletes don’t need to ‘add a little bit.’

I would say 99.9999% of Americans eat way too much sodium. 


 

@sidsmom  Yes re salt, and I am one of them, though I have cut back some, but I am not a sweets person, but I am a salt addict.  Hopefully, all of the liquid I consume washes it out, my yearly tests show no problem.  I have decided that most food, naturally, has sodium so when we add salt, it is too much.

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I’m a salt hound, as well.

When I really muscle myself by eliminating additional sodium,

it only takes a week or less to really adjust your tastebuds.

Even celery will almost taste too salty! 

Salt is a classic ‘gateway’ additive for hooking you into eating more.

Slippery slope if not aware of this.

 

At the end of the day, the color of the urine is the best indicator.

 

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@Annabellethecat66  wow some really good info posted.  

 

I make sure to drink a good amount of water but every yr my annual exam shows me low in certain areas that indicate dehydration for some reason.  I have a talk every yr with my doctor and he tells me for me I am normal and it has to due with my muscle mass (or lack of it I guess) and so on.  My numbers were better last yr so I will be curious how it turns out next week for my new labs.  

 

Has to due with the BUN & Creatine plus the ratio results.  

 

I feel thirsty most of the time and make sure I have a water bottle with me just in case.  My fasting sugar # is normal each time so it's not anything like diabetes...but still....I will just keep on drinking my water.  I do mix some water and sports drink with zero sugar in it one time per day in the morning after a cup of coffee to rehydrate from the fast overnight.  

 

But I have to stop drinking to much water about 7:30 so I don't get up so many times to use the bathroom which is a whole other situation.

 

I admit I don't use salt alot...I find most everything I eat is fine the way it is....husband on the other hand doesn't even taste food 1st to see but adds a mound of salt/pepper and spicy hot hot stuff piled on top.  We are all so different on taste I guess!

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Re: HYDRATION - WHAT COUNTS

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@sidsmom wrote:

@mousiegirl

I’m a salt hound, as well.

When I really muscle myself by eliminating additional sodium,

it only takes a week or less to really adjust your tastebuds.

Even celery will almost taste too salty! 

Salt is a classic ‘gateway’ additive for hooking you into eating more.

Slippery slope if not aware of this.

 

At the end of the day, the color of the urine is the best indicator.

 

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Pale Straw Color....always get checked at annual doc's appt and everything is fine.  On the other hand....husband's urine (when I have seen it in toilet...don't ask LOL) is dark amber.  YUKY....he works out hard and everyday....never drinks water during it and very little afterward and he seems totally fine!  Sometimes a pop but doesn't seem thristy....and feels great.  Me on the other hand ....I am tried all the time.  Sleep poorly and so on.  We are all so different in how sensitive we are to things I guess....