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Re: FDA approved a new opioid drug

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The problem with abuse of opiates lies with doctors. My friend was addicted to pain meds & had back surgery. Before her surgery her pain doctor gave her a Rx for 120 percocet for her post op pain. I was at the hospital when her surgeon asked if she had pain meds at home to which she lied and said NO. He gave her another Rx for 120 percocet. This on top of her  maintenance dose of Norco that she takes every 12 hours.

All this to a woman who is so small she only weighs 95 pounds. And she also takes antidepressants and antianxiety drugs. End result  was she died of an overdose in her sleep one night at only 60 years old. They had her on a Fentanyl patch for a while before her surgery, but stopped that when she agreed to the surgery. What treasonable doctor would order this much opiate pain meds for anyone, let alone someone so small she was about the size of a 12 year old child.

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@patofl I am so sorry about your friend. My Dr. never handed them out like candy. I took 2 Percoset a day.  If my hip was at a 9 pain level after that I just didn't do much but sit and put up with it. I was given a 30 day supply ,60 pills, period.  I had to go see Dr. after 30 days and give a urine sample.  If I didn't have the "right" amount of meds show up in the sample that would have been it. 120 pills at one time is insane. I didn't like taking them and I'm no wuss with pain, but a bone on bone hurts and nothing OTC worked.

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Re: FDA approved a new opioid drug

Actually @CrazyKittyLvr2, most major insurance companies instituted the 7 day rule for C-II drugs as of January 1st of this year. 

 

Anything more the insurance and doctor needed to talk to one another or we couldn't dispense. And if you took the 7 days, that voided the rest of your prescription even if you had a 30, 60, 90 day order.       

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Re: FDA approved a new opioid drug

 

@CrazyKittyLvr2

 

Thanks for your reply. I have read that in 2017 the total number of alcohol related deaths in vehicles was less than 11,000. That is way too many, and yes, many were not driving when killed. I do not drink and am a strong advocate for much tougher laws for those driving Under the Influence of Any substance, alcohol included.

 

These deaths attributed to firearms or DUI, pale in comparison to  the number of Drug related deaths. I did mention in my post "that what one chooses to take for pain rests solely on them". Doctors can and do "prescribe", but the individual still has the final decision of putting in their mouth.

 

Deaths from many things are an inevitable part of living. For me personally, I do not like more attention "by those that be", being much more focused on firearm deaths, than the deaths directly related to Opioid consumption. 

 

Pain as we all know is a subjective thing. The only pain any person can directly relate to is their own. Everyone, if they live long enough will experience many levels of personal physical pain, but only they can know their level of pain. Like yourself, I can look at many people any believe they are in pain. Do I know that for sure by how they appear or their mobility, of course not. 

 

I think we are on the same page in this regard, but are coming at it with maybe different perspectives. Long enough, eh?    =^..^=

 

 

 

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Re: FDA approved a new opioid drug


@patofl wrote:

The problem with abuse of opiates lies with doctors. 

 

 

 

@patofl

 

I have 2 Medical Doctors in my family, 1 of which owns several Pain Clinics within our State/California, and South Korea. The other is a PCP.

 

To say "the problem lies with doctors"?  Doctors only prescribe oral pain medications, Opioid or NSAID. I doubt there are many reputable Medical Doctors that force feed their patients medications.

Spoiler
 

 

Sure, their are bad people in ALL professions, but to make a statement such as your's?  I'll leave it at this.

 

 

 

hckynut


 

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@hckynut  We will have to agree to disagree because I feel very strongly about what happened to my friend.And I was right there witnessing it! When I went to the drugstore  to fill her Rx from the surgeon they refused to fill it because she already had filled the one from the pain doctor.

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I wonder how long it will take for this new opiate to fall into the hands of an illegal manufacturer? That's when it will really become a problem.

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As was stated there are good andbad in profession. I think in the last couple of year Drs. are very careful about prescribing opioids. I made the choice to take what was prescribed because I knew the danger of misusing them plus I don'tlike being out of control so to speak. My Dr.'s told me they stopped treating a few people because they flunked their urine tests.

 

In a different pain med vein,  my Mom was in hospital. Called my sister on a Friday am. complaining about her breakfast. the noise at night, and oh by the way, they said I have 2 days to live. My sister went to the hospital give someone he!! for telling a 82 yr. woman that with no one there with her. They said she was mistaken, but she was going home they did what they could. Mom whispered to my sister "they're going to give me that illegal stuff"  Sis said you.mean moraphine. Yes.  I don't know exactly what they gave her but  when ambulance brought her home she was unconscious and stayed that way until she died Sun. am.  2 days later. She was awake and complaining about breakfast 8 hours earlier. They gave us no meds to give her. That must have been some strong stuff.

 

 

 

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Re: FDA approved a new opioid drug

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 wrote:

@hckynut  Everyone needs to decide for themselves, along with their Dr., what they need and are willing to take. Sometimes there are few options. Friend's daughter has had chronic pancreatitis since she was a pre-teen almost 40 now. Had an electric pain apparatus implated in her back, it did nothing. If not for strong pain meds she would be pretty much bedridden.  You can see the pain on her face and I've seen 80 yr. old women get around 10xfaster than she does.

 

I read 88,000 people die a year from alcohol related illnesses,accidents etc. Yes, there are laws, a bartender can cut you off and you can only buy so many ounces of beer at a time, can just go to another place and buy more. 

 

I hate anyone dying from an overdose,it's so senseless, but  usually they are the only that dies, whereas a drunk driver can kill many others along with himself..


I cant tell you how many sad photos I have seen of 2 passed out junkies in a car with babies in the back seat (and not in car seats either).

 

They never just impact themselves. I think opiod addicts are beyond selfish and are making it impossible for those who MUST have and use opiods daily.

 

I dont use them but have been prescribed in the past.

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@CrazyKittyLvr2 wrote:

As was stated there are good andbad in profession. I think in the last couple of year Drs. are very careful about prescribing opioids. I made the choice to take what was prescribed because I knew the danger of misusing them plus I don'tlike being out of control so to speak. My Dr.'s told me they stopped treating a few people because they flunked their urine tests.

 

In a different pain med vein,  my Mom was in hospital. Called my sister on a Friday am. complaining about her breakfast. the noise at night, and oh by the way, they said I have 2 days to live. My sister went to the hospital give someone he!! for telling a 82 yr. woman that with no one there with her. They said she was mistaken, but she was going home they did what they could. Mom whispered to my sister "they're going to give me that illegal stuff"  Sis said you.mean moraphine. Yes.  I don't know exactly what they gave her but  when ambulance brought her home she was unconscious and stayed that way until she died Sun. am.  2 days later. She was awake and complaining about breakfast 8 hours earlier. They gave us no meds to give her. That must have been some strong stuff.

 

 

 


And I have the opposite opinion.  When my husband was in the hospital last year recovering from gall bladder surgery (he was in longer than normal because he had a raging infection) he had to fight with the nurses to get just tylenol.  That's all he wanted.  They were po'd telling him the reason he was in pain was because he was refusing the opiods when they would offer them to him at the prescribed times.