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12-20-2020 11:59 AM - edited 12-20-2020 12:02 PM
@willdob3 wrote:
@skatting44 wrote:Oh my, I can't beleive that this hasn't been poofed away. How many times can you beat a dead horse . So many need to just discuss the issue with their Medical Doctors along with asking abt " how the body normally reacts " to immunizations.
Really? There is nothing “normal” about this new virus and the vaccine is almost as unknown as the virus is. Most doctors don’t know any more about it than anyone else.
No one should simply take the word of a doctor at face value on anything. They are just people and only know what they have been told, though they don’t always know even that. And much of the time what they have been taught is proven to be completely wrong.
What I am referring to is that there is a thread so frequently abt the vaccines . I agree with many other posters that a discussion between a patient and their Medical Doctor is best in regard to these vaccines . Other's have posted info from the drug manufacturers abt the various vaccines that have received FDA EUA authorization .
I did not say don't be prudent in anyone's decision as to vaccination . Yes, research the facts from reliable sources . I just don't think the best is everyone constantly chiming in some doom gloom , misinformation and fear tactics .
Simply, if you don't want thevaccine than don't get in line to receive it .
12-20-2020 02:19 PM
When I become overwhelmed by information I usually refer to clinical data AND Google "history of polio vaccine" to clear my head a little.
12-20-2020 03:50 PM
@Drythe wrote:
@pitdakota wrote:
@Drythe, since I am a nurse that has given not only goo gobs of vaccines, but spent more than 4 decades drawing up medications from multi-dose vials, I will attempt to weigh in here.
It is not a manufacturing defect that multi-dose vials are a tad overfilled. That is fairly standard with any multi-dose vial of whatever vaccination or any medication it is in that vial. There are times when people that are new to drawing up medications have a little trouble and get quite a bit of air in the syringe so that when they work to expel the air they also lose part of the medication and may end up missing just a fraction of the dose. In that case, there is a small amount extra left in the vial to compensate.
In the case of the Pfizer vaccine the dose equals what is 3 tenths of a cc.(0.3 cc). That is a scant amount of liquid, so that it would be easy for an extra dose to be contained in each vial due to the normal overfill they allow. With this vaccination program I would gander a guess that they have fairly experienced people drawing up doses and don't have nursing students, new nurses, etc. preparing the doses. So the extra ends up being a full extra dose. Easy peasy and no manufacturing defect at all.
Always good to see you!
I gave allergy shots to myself for years, Parents made me write down on the bottle which dose I had just given myself, so it was easy to know there were always a bit of leftovers! Many years later studying vaccination programs, I asked my epidemiology prof. about it and his answer was the same as yours! Your good information and knowledge is so welcome.
-Be Well ~ Be Safe-
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See, when you actually use the vials, you know there is always some overfill! It is easy to know when you are the one actually drawing up medications from multi-dose vials as you found out.
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