Wellness

[ID2]

Where I live I really don't even feel like we are still in a "pandemic". We've been pretty much open for many months now. I don't know anyone that's had this virus. I never experienced sorrow. I've taken the time of the lockdown to get a better handle on my well being. Which includes my head. I never live my life always thinking of doom and gloom. I'm probably the only happy person out there through this whole mess. 

[Sooner]

We are always in jeoparty from illness, financial ruin, a volcano or and earthquake or massive drought world wide.

Pandemics have happened before and will happen again.  Science cannot save us. Medicine cannot save us. Governments cannot save us from biology and natural forces.

We live by grace and faith because to do otherwise is not wise.  We are at the mercy of the earth--the earth is not at the mercy of us.  That is one concept we have very wrong.

My point is that we are not in charge.  Never have been, never will be.  We are frail little beings, so live your life and do the best you can and be thankful when you think how much worse most people on this planet have it than any of us in this country. 

[Bri369]

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@KarenQVC wrote:

If 400,000 Americans die of covid by the end of the year, we will have about 4 million people dealing with very messy grief.  I am counting 10 mourners for each death.

Services have been delayed or abbreviated.  Some of my friends blame others for the death of a friend or relative.

This sounds like a mental health crisis is coming after the physical crisis ends.

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I'm curious where you're getting your 400,000 figure from?  As of now, we're just around 200,000.  

Regardless, there are mental health agencies or other avenues of help for people dealing with Covid.  

[KarenQVC]

I don't know.  Canada had no deaths yesterday and we had 1000.  Just this AM I was thinking about trying to make a break across the border.  (We live very close.)  I admire the Canadians.  It seems their human intervention has been successful.

[tends2dogs]

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@ID2 wrote:

Where I live I really don't even feel like we are still in a "pandemic". We've been pretty much open for many months now. I don't know anyone that's had this virus. I never experienced sorrow. I've taken the time of the lockdown to get a better handle on my well being. Which includes my head. I never live my life always thinking of doom and gloom. I'm probably the only happy person out there through this whole mess. 

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No, you aren't the only happy person "out there" going through this.  I feel for the ones that have let this paralyze their life.  You could walk outside and get hit by a car, bullet, fill in the blank.  

My DH and I are living our life basically the same as before with a few changes....masks, social distancing, etc.  We are going to most of the same places as before.  We have a strong faith base and that helps us get through.  We have been through tougher times than this.

I understand that not everyone can carry on so to speak.  It is a heavy, scary burden for many.  As I said above, I have compassion for them and am thankful everyday that I don't have this heaviness laid on me.

[KarenQVC]

I understand there are people who expect little from the government and they will suffer less grief.

However, there are many who expect more and they will suffer complicated grief.  There will be quite a few in this class and they are citizens.

I just know how proud Canadians are of their response and their health care system.

[jeanlake]

For those of us who have not experienced global tragedy at home (war, acts of nature, health pandemics) this season is the most unkind season of our lives and no one in our country has been spared. Some are more fortunate than others and I'm glad to see those who have been spared are compassionate towards those who are on the front lines to potential tragedy. Add to this, our country is passionately divided on crucial issues. 

Hold tight to your faith and keep that faith simple. In my opinion, there's a reason the Sermon on the Mount was taught in the beauty of nature. Keep your eyes soft. Leave room in your hearts for compassion and grace. Be wise as you go about your day. Reconfirm your purpose. I've been alarmed at how harsh people have become. I know this is how weak people handle stress, but it is so destructive to our society.

I am so thankful those I know who tested positive for covid19 never went to the hospital. Grateful beyond words. My heart breaks for those experiencing loss. Everyone take care.      

[shoesnbags]

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@Bri369 wrote:

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@KarenQVC wrote:

If 400,000 Americans die of covid by the end of the year, we will have about 4 million people dealing with very messy grief.  I am counting 10 mourners for each death.

Services have been delayed or abbreviated.  Some of my friends blame others for the death of a friend or relative.

This sounds like a mental health crisis is coming after the physical crisis ends.

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I'm curious where you're getting your 400,000 figure from?  As of now, we're just around 200,000.  

Regardless, there are mental health agencies or other avenues of help for people dealing with Covid.  

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@Bri369 

I believe this is the number they were reporting as the latest prediction yesterday - a doubling of the death count by the end of the year.  I don't believe these dire predictions help anyone.  And I don't think they change anyone's behavior. It just serves to further depress people who really don't need any more stress at this point. (Speaking of stress, I have a hurricane headed my way at this point. I'm getting numb to bad news. )

[CLHS68]

If people would take this seriously & follow guidelines maybe we would have the success that Canada & other countries have. But no people refuse to wear a mask , don't social distance & gather in crowds. Our cases are growing & the college campus is exploding with cases but no they had to open schools instead of online learning.

[noodleann]

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@KarenQVC wrote:

If 400,000 Americans die of covid by the end of the year, we will have about 4 million people dealing with very messy grief.  I am counting 10 mourners for each death.

Services have been delayed or abbreviated.  Some of my friends blame others for the death of a friend or relative.

This sounds like a mental health crisis is coming after the physical crisis ends.

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It's September 13th today. This has been going on all year, with the first deaths reported in Jan. or Feb. here. Our death count in this country (of Americans and non-Americans alike) is under 200,000. I don't see how we'll have another 200,000 dead of COVID-19 in 3.5 months. The global total of new deaths today was around 2,700. The US total was 158. It would take nearly 2,000 deaths every day in the US to reach your predicted total.

Your mourner count is also off. I will have one mourner of my death, and I believe several family members are in the same situation. Many in nursing homes don't have anyone to mourn their passing. "We" will not "have about 4 million people dealing with very messy grief." Grief is often an emotionally chaotic experience. Coping with loss can be challenging. That's normal.

"Services" do not necessarily help with the grieving process. I know of several deaths that had no services by the choice of the dead person, and there were no problems that I know of for the people who survived. I  can speak to this because I was one of them and knew the others. For those who want and need services, they can be done in a limited way now or a memorial service can be done when things are safer. If people don't know this, they'll learn when they need to know. 

"Some of my friends blame others for the death of a friend or relative." Some of your friends may be right, but that's a whole other matter.

It's a bit hypocritical to be ginning up anxiety when you're warning of a coming mental health crisis, which also appears to be your conjecture. Stuff like this only makes things worse, especially for some of the more fragile posters who frequent this forum.