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Re: Delayed/Complicated Grief


@tarsmom wrote:

I have faith in a higher power.  I know when it's my time, it's my time and I'm not going to waste energy and worry myself sick about it.  

 

I have had many losses of family and friends (not Covid) in my life as well as a husband who has had health problems for 40 years - heart, cancer, Crohn's disease, etc.

 

We started dealing with this in our 20's and now we're 65.  I realize some people have never had anything much wrong health wise or even loss (many of my friends still have their parents/siblings/friends).  

 

But we have had loss - and you know what?  We all need to be at peace with ourselves and take life as it comes.

 

I pray a lot and we are careful but we still ride a motorcycle (gasp!) and have been out to eat, hair salon, dentist, etc.  

 

Try not to let yourselves get eaten up by this - what will be, will be. <3


@tarsmom 

 

I watched a recent outdoor event on tv where most event attendees were not wearing masks or observing social distancing.  Several attendees interviewed by a reporter.    One  person interviewed said the virus was a hoax, another said he put his faith in God, and said "if I die, I die." 

Stay safe.  🙏

 

 

 

~Life is short. Eat well. You could die tomorrow. ~

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Re: Delayed/Complicated Grief

Unless people are given the facts, they can't protect themselves.  If the threat is not presented as a serious matter, people will die needlessly.  Their survivors will be left with complicated grief.  All the "if onlys."

 

The very bodies of the victims give us both a reprimand and a clue.  Their number asks why are so many of us dead?  Why does our country rank 15th out of 150 countries in death per capita?  Why did 85% of the countries of the world care more about their citizens than we did?

 

Those who died and their mourners will be asking this question for decades.

 

 

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Re: Delayed/Complicated Grief


@KarenQVC wrote:

Unless people are given the facts, they can't protect themselves.  If the threat is not presented as a serious matter, people will die needlessly.  Their survivors will be left with complicated grief.  All the "if onlys."

 

The very bodies of the victims give us both a reprimand and a clue.  Their number asks why are so many of us dead?  Why does our country rank 15th out of 150 countries in death per capita?  Why did 85% of the countries of the world care more about their citizens than we did?

 

Those who died and their mourners will be asking this question for decades.

 

 


Seem to be projecting your views as facts.  That is not the reality, but please continue to depress those who are already on the edge.  Might just push a few over with your posts.

Someday, when scientists discover the center of the Universe....some people will be disappointed it is not them.
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Re: Delayed/Complicated Grief

@noodleannWell said.

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Re: Delayed/Complicated Grief

It is a tribute to those who have died to find out why they did.  That info will also be needed for the mourners to resolve grief.  It will build an energy to never let that happen again.

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Re: Delayed/Complicated Grief


@jeanlake wrote:

For those of us who have not experienced global tragedy at home (war, acts of nature, health pandemics) this season is the most unkind season of our lives and no one in our country has been spared. Some are more fortunate than others and I'm glad to see those who have been spared are compassionate towards those who are on the front lines to potential tragedy. Add to this, our country is passionately divided on crucial issues. 

 

Hold tight to your faith and keep that faith simple. In my opinion, there's a reason the Sermon on the Mount was taught in the beauty of nature. Keep your eyes soft. Leave room in your hearts for compassion and grace. Be wise as you go about your day. Reconfirm your purpose. I've been alarmed at how harsh people have become. I know this is how weak people handle stress, but it is so destructive to our society.

 

I am so thankful those I know who tested positive for covid19 never went to the hospital. Grateful beyond words. My heart breaks for those experiencing loss. Everyone take care.      


You are a good person @jeanlake . I too am concerned about the lack of compassion some express. I live in the Northeast far protected from the forest fires in the west but my heart aches for those who are suffering such devastating loss.I couldn't imagine saying how happy we are here and implying that these people somehow have psychological problems or brought the fires on themselves. And yet I have seen this same attitude play out with the pandemic. "Hey, I'm fine here so it must be your problem. Too bad, so sad." Our country used to be better than this.

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Re: Delayed/Complicated Grief

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A thousand different "what if" scenarios.  So far yes we have about 200,000 dead.  82% or more were over 65.  90% had underlying conditions.  We really have no way of knowing how many of the numbers are correct.  Yes people have died, but we will never know how many died with covid and from covid.  To speculate that there will be some mass death occurrence in 3.5 months is just fear mongering.  You don't know, it's total speculation.  Yes there are a lot of positives.  More testing yields more positives.  How many get hospitalized?  A lot less than in the beginning.   We have millions of positives, 200k of those millions have died, and a total population of over 328 million. The numbers are not there for millions dying in the streets.   The younger you are the less the threat.  That's a fact.  Anybody can create a chart, or report to fit a narrative that does not mean it will occur. 

 

I'm sure there are depressed people out there due to the many different things that have happened to them from the virus.  Be it loss of job, schooling, personal sickness, or even a death.  But this is not the "end of the world" by any means.  People obsess and have very different views of this virus.  Some people are so focused, that they can not think of anything else and believe there are people who go maskless just to murder people.  Some people just keep on trucking and don't think too much about it.  To each there own.  No one has to think like you do.  It will not change anything.  Seriously.  Worry about yourself, take care of yourself and try not to obsess about what everyone else is doing.  It will not help you.  For those suffering depression there is help out there.  Seek it out.  

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Re: Delayed/Complicated Grief

I don't believe Complicated Grief Disorder will affect as many people as the OP states either.  

 

This is an unfortunate thread that does nothing to help the situation, IMO.

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Re: Delayed/Complicated Grief

This is something pretty new to most of us.  The fact that so little is known about it makes it even more concerning.  What helps me is knowing who holds my future and relying heavily on that.  God has brought me through many tight places in life.  There is a reason for things that happen.  I'm hoping and praying that people will see our need for somebody bigger than you and I. 

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Our mental health is better when we can fight back things we don't agree with.  Action represents a step forward.

 

I wouldn't recommend sacrificing ourselves by taking to the streets.

 

However, we can do small acts until we get the care we need.  I am cutting out all discretionary spending until we get adequate services.  If quite a few did that the nation would hear us.