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@brockner , I DO NOT want to hijack @SouthernBee 's thread but I have one quick question...are there any foods that boost your metabolism?

 

Thank you!

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@AuntG wrote:

I think @Trinity11 helped explain the why and how, but I doubt he will follow the program. I believe he would try to sabotage @SouthernBee  when she was trying to lose weight by bringing home doughnuts and fast food. The life and death nature of this might make him comply but I have my doubts.


@AuntG I wonder if he is suffering from hyperinsulinimia? It happens when there are large amounts of insulin circulating in the blood and it can cause a ravenous appetite. He may be perpetuating the condition by continuing to eat fast food which is made in the lab to make people crave it...again and again and again.

 

A lot of patients claim to have cravings for sweets just before a diagnosis of Type 2. So much is unknown about diabetes and I have always been someone who believes that hyperinsulinimia makes a person hungry...or at least my endocrinologist believes it. I saw it with my adoptive mom before a diagnosis of Type 2. She never liked sweets and suddenly had stocked the house with every dessert known to man...

 

 

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@I am still oxox wrote:

Keto is not healthy, and I am amazed a Dr it.

Keto is the latest low carb craze and is a short fix and most people gain back their weight

I would suggest a plan like Weight Watchers, where you can eat everything in limits but is is a lifestyle not a diet


ITA

Hurts my heart to hear there are ‘doctors’ out there that prescribe 

by the local bookstore Bestseller List.

 

It’s a fact.

Doctor’s are minimally educated in Nutrition.

Why would anyone trust their opinion when it comes to diet?

 

The answer is pretty easy.

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@SouthernBee I’m so sorry you are dealing with this.  What does your husband say about the new way of eating?  If he won’t stick with it, you will just make yourself a wreck trying to “mother” him into eating properly.  If he isn’t committed to it, he will just go out and get the donuts and fast food behind your back.

 

If he says he is determined to do it, maybe you can sit down together and plan menus and snacks.  And do some active things together lke walks, etc.  Approaching it as something to work at together may be more successful.

 

Sending good thoughts to both of you.

 

 

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Hi @Trinity11 ,

 

I have no experience with this type of plan. As we both know, trust in our doctors is paramount. Had a couple doctors that I  did not agree with, and quickly ended our relationship. Did see it was prescribed by his doctor and I would never 2nd guess any patient's doctor.

 

My recoveries and dietary successes happened over many years, most recently since 2016, when I felt physically fit enough to try ice skating again. That/this long lasting recovery included a lot of hard physical work, and without an adequate food program, I would never have reached that level of physical and mental fitness.

 

Through several decades I changed what I ate, and how I went about eating it. It has always been based on low fat and high complex carbs, and I can attest that what I have been doing for over the last 20 months, has enabled my soon to be 80(Saturday) body to reach close to my highest physical fitness levels since my 40's.

 

Said here many times, I would not recommend the way I eat to anyone, but it worked/works, best for my body. Considering all my Cardio/Pulmonary, and blood loss issues, I even surprised myself with the level of fitness I was able to achieve, and so far retain.

 

Still ice skating three times a week and they are 2 hour sessions, went this afternoon and had both fun and a great workout.  Some leisurely, but more of it as a cardio/pulmonary/balance and muscle adaptation exercise. Short intervals at 90-95% of my Stress Tested Heart Rate Maximum. Just love skating and to able yo use this 3 days a week for fitness! What more could I ask for?

 

I am beyond "well". When anyone now asks me "how are you doing". My answer is, and has been for well over a year now, GREAT.

 

I really hope things are going  better for you, as you have been, and are, going through a lot. My very best to you 

 

 

 

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@SouthernBee wrote:

@chrystaltree : He is a very good doctor. Surprised that doctor isn’t totally fed up and told DH to find another doctor. It is very frustrating and difficult getting him to a doctor or anyone else. I am in a hard spot. My doctor told me to eat better in January and only loss 6 pounds. DH has food on the brain constantly. Growing up- he went to bed every night hungry. Southern Bee 


The Keto diet was approved for me, by my very qualified endocrinologist, who is a specialist in both diabetes and thyroid disease.

I also do intermittent fasting, and believe it has allowed me to stay at my “new” weight as long as I have.

In appropriate cases, Keto is a lifesaver. 

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@SouthernBee wrote:

@cherry : Seeing a therapist for multiple issues. Southern Bee 


A wonderful way to start! Good for him!

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@AuntG : You understand my world. This week DH went out to eat with a friend. I requested a vegetable plate and nothing else. He returns with butter beans, sweet potato, two servings of rice with gravy and four pieces of fried chicken. After the doctor visit went to a buffet place to eat. He had 3 root beers, coffee with a lot of sugar.  This time he consumed only one plate of food instead of three and no bread. I had two glasses of water. Two plates of salad with only eggs, cheese  and oil and vinegar used in small amounts. They had not restocked the salad bar.I had  two baked chicken thighs with skin removed. At home this evening I snacked on the last of a watermelon. To my surprise, DH had nothing. DH going fishing today. I will be reading and doing more research. Need to grocery shop Friday . Don’t have great food at home for today and Friday. Southern Bee  Still having trouble with iPad. Frustrated!!

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@hckynut : Need help with my pro form 460 recumbent bike. I can’t adjust the seat position while sitting on the bike. I email pro form last week but no response yet. My left leg is shorter than the right. I had trouble turning the bike over to look at it. The adjustment handle is red and attached inside to the seat carriage has special screws. Didn’t see anything that I could  put oil on  or whatever. Do you understand anything that I am trying to explain! I have to use a stretch band to lift my left foot on the pedal. Trying to find a pillow to fit behind my back. My doctor suggested the bike. Purchased at Sears that is no longer in my area. Trying to find someone locally to help. DH  tried to help. Southern Bee still issues with iPad 😳

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A keto diet is a good way to kick start a weight loss, reduce appetite, and it is not a scary, terrible, nobody should do it diet.

 

LONG TERM it is not a good way to eat. The good thing about keto is that while the patient (person) is mentally adapting to the fact that a life style change in the way they eat is necessary, weight loss is already happening. It takes time for some people to accept a new way of life. In the meantime, keto is a good way to start losing quickly, and once the person begins to see the weight loss at a more rapid pace than a slow 2 pounds a week diet, it does help with the mental part of changing their eating habits.

 

There is no such thing as a diet. Weight loss has to be a permanent change in the way a person eats. Getting all the processed food out, cutting out ALL sugar, getting used too eating the way our grandparents ate. It has to be a change to eating only whole foods. No junk food. No food that comes in a box. If it is in a box, it is not food. It is chemicals put together that taste like food. Keto is an easy way to eat once you start feeling better from the dropping weight. That is why some Drs use Keto because it works quickly, and as the person feels better most become compliant to new ways of eating.

 

Doing Keto for a short period of time is not unhealthy. Some people stay on it because they like it. The only dangers of Keto is that long term it puts undue stress on the kidneys. Some people do Keto for a few months, take a break but still eat healthy, then go back to keto.

 

Your biggest problem right now is your husbands attitude. He doesn't sound like he is going to be on board and be enthusiastic about any food plan (given how you say he eats now). HE has to WANT to change and that is your biggest hurdle.

 

There are lots of Keto books online (Amazon is good because there are many reviews with added tips from the reviewer that are helpful). There are recipes galore just by Googling. There are lists of accepted foods and no-no foods. There are many Facebook pages that can be a big help for you to understand the diet. It is a high fat diet, but the fats are "good fats", not junk unhealthy fats. Pintrest is another place to get lots of Keto information and recipes.

 

I hope your husband gets on board with it. Maybe having a quick weight loss will give him the incentive to realize he has to change. Period.

 

Take the word "diet" out of any conversation. The word diet infers that there is an end to the diet once you lose a certain amount of weight. What people really need to understand is that changing the way you eat is forever.

 

Change is hard. Change is scary. What keeps people going in a lifestyle change is feeling better. Health issues go away. Energy come back. Your brain becomes clear. As all those things begin, the incentive to keep on going to eat clean forever. Once you change everything you put in your body and experience how much different you feel, it actually does change the mental/emotional part. You can never go back to cupcakes and soda because you will immediately feel like c*ap.

 

Keto is not scary, just educate yourself, and hopefully once your hubby moves towards eating better you can ease off Keto and just eat clean. My motto is "if you can pick it off a tree or gather it from a garden, then that is what you eat". If there is an ingredient list on a box with names of stuff you cannot pronounce, then it is not food and you don't eat it.

 

It really is that simple. Whole foods only. If he doesn't like veggies, he will have to change that. Fruits, veggies, lean meats, chicken gets to be your menu. No gravies, no coatings, no casseroles, no junk food. NO SUGAR. Sugar is like a drug, it really takes a few weeks to stop craving it. Once you cut out the sugar though, the craving subsides and you don't miss it anymore.

 

The stress is on you right now, but I am willing to bet once he feels what "feel great" is like, he is going to want that good feeling to continue.

So many people don't even know just how bad they feel until they feel good!