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02-08-2020 01:13 PM
Listening to the news about the Coronavirus and those that have succumbed to it, it seems most, if not all, have developed pneumonia which lead to their death. I'm curious if the pneumonia vaccines available here that many of us get, have any resistance to this new pneumonia causing virus. I haven't seen any answers either way.
02-08-2020 01:29 PM
I wondered the same thing a few days ago and searched online. What I saw was that no it doesn’t since the present pneumonia shot protects against certain bacteria that causes pneumonia rather than pneumonia caused by a coronavirus. I don’t know how accurate that information is though.
02-08-2020 01:47 PM
I did hear a doctor say that people who have had the flu vaccine may be a little protected because they are less likely to be severely weakened by the flu virus. Maybe the same is true for pneimonia?
Not a doctor or a scientist here!
02-08-2020 02:40 PM - edited 02-08-2020 02:48 PM
The people who got the pneumonia, after they got infected with coronavirus, got sick from the pneumonia because the virus weakened their immune system. That's what pneumonia does...it attacks people while they are down. If not the pneumonia then it could be something else, like the flu for instance.
There are 30 different causes of pneumonia. Some are viral and others are bacterial, both of which can be a result of a weak immune system. The term pneumonia simply means inflammation of the lungs. The pneumonia vaccine is for bacteria, not viral.
02-08-2020 02:47 PM
@SilleeMee wrote:The people who got the pneumonia, after they got infected with coronavirus, got sick from the pneumonia because the virus weakened their immune system. That's what pneumonia does...it attacks people while they are down. If not the pneumonia then it could be something else, like the flu for instance.
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02-08-2020 03:06 PM
@SilleeMee wrote:The people who got the pneumonia, after they got infected with coronavirus, got sick from the pneumonia because the virus weakened their immune system. That's what pneumonia does...it attacks people while they are down. If not the pneumonia then it could be something else, like the flu for instance.
There are 30 different causes of pneumonia. Some are viral and others are bacterial, both of which can be a result of a weak immune system. The term pneumonia simply means inflammation of the lungs. The pneumonia vaccine is for bacteria, not viral.
Secondary bacterial pneumonias are common following influenza.
02-08-2020 04:27 PM - edited 02-08-2020 06:54 PM
The coronavirus is a mild, to moderate virus (for those healthy, otherwise), a virus of the common cold. It usually affects the upper respiratory system and even if it causes some respiratory distress, it can be easily assisted with some breathing treatments and other supportive care.
The problem seems to be that the Wuhan coronavirus is particularly virulent, and it seems you may not be resistant to the strain, either, like typical common cold viruses, of which there are many. They believe people can reinfect.
In those with poor immune systems, it quickly travels deeper into the lungs. The inflammation, cellular damage and retained fluids prevents the lungs from moving oxygen and gas exchanges. This is what they call 'viral' pneumonia. Sometimes antivirals can help, but sadly it's basic care and support, unlike bacterial pneumonia that often will respond to antibiotics with aggressive treatment.
The question has become why this coronavirus is so virulent. It has traits of SARS, which might be the answer, or maybe we're looking at something brand new. The birth of a combination of viruses, working together. I hope much will be learned from this.
02-09-2020 12:45 AM
@BlueFinch wrote:The coronavirus is a mild, to moderate virus (for those healthy, otherwise), a virus of the common cold. It usually affects the upper respiratory system and even if it causes some respiratory distress, it can be easily assisted with some breathing treatments and other supportive care.
The problem seems to be that the Wuhan coronavirus is particularly virulent, and it seems you may not be resistant to the strain, either, like typical common cold viruses, of which there are many. They believe people can reinfect.
In those with poor immune systems, it quickly travels deeper into the lungs. The inflammation, cellular damage and retained fluids prevents the lungs from moving oxygen and gas exchanges. This is what they call 'viral' pneumonia. Sometimes antivirals can help, but sadly it's basic care and support, unlike bacterial pneumonia that often will respond to antibiotics with aggressive treatment.
The question has become why this coronavirus is so virulent. It has traits of SARS, which might be the answer, or maybe we're looking at something brand new. The birth of a combination of viruses, working together. I hope much will be learned from this.
The latest research study of 138 patients infected with novel coronavirus in Wuhan found that antivirals were used along with two other virus treatment medications in all 138 hospitalized patients. NONE OF THE PATIENTS RESPONDED TO THE ANTIVIRALS. In other words, antivirals are useless in the treatment of this novel coronavirus. Forty of the hospitalized patients were healthcare workers that became infected while working at this
hospital. One patient infected TEN other hospital patients and hospital staff. A sub group of patients first presented with atypical gastrointestinal symptoms of nausea and vomiting rather than with dry cough and the other typical symptoms. In the patients with the gastro symptoms coronavirus was present in stool. I’ll be writing more about the findings tomorrow.
02-09-2020 12:54 AM
@BlueFinch wrote:The coronavirus is a mild, to moderate virus (for those healthy, otherwise), a virus of the common cold. It usually affects the upper respiratory system and even if it causes some respiratory distress, it can be easily assisted with some breathing treatments and other supportive care.
The problem seems to be that the Wuhan coronavirus is particularly virulent, and it seems you may not be resistant to the strain, either, like typical common cold viruses, of which there are many. They believe people can reinfect.
In those with poor immune systems, it quickly travels deeper into the lungs. The inflammation, cellular damage and retained fluids prevents the lungs from moving oxygen and gas exchanges. This is what they call 'viral' pneumonia. Sometimes antivirals can help, but sadly it's basic care and support, unlike bacterial pneumonia that often will respond to antibiotics with aggressive treatment.
The question has become why this coronavirus is so virulent. It has traits of SARS, which might be the answer, or maybe we're looking at something brand new. The birth of a combination of viruses, working together. I hope much will be learned from this.
The virus has been sequenced. It is not three viruses working together. It is a newly discovered coronavirus, genetically it’s most closely related to SARS. It is brand new as far as our knowledge of its existence is concerned. It has not been officially named yet, hence the temporary name of novel (new) coronavirus. “2019-nCOV” is its temporary name. It does not only attack those with weakened immune systems.
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