Re: Concerns About Medical Practices When Prescrib... - Page 4

151949 · ‎03-09-2010

I will say they keep lowering these ideal numbers every year. Even my doctor rolls his eyes. The ideal FBS now is down to 70. Many people would have definite low blood sugar symptoms with a FBS of 70.They keep lowering the cholesterol numbers as well, though I can't recall it right now , and they also keep lowering the ideal BP too.

I know I'm being cynical - but I can't help but think this has more to do with selling drugs and making a profit than it does the welfare of the patient.As a friend recently said - don't you know our government can't wait for us Medicare patients to kick off. They would love to not have to pay to care for us.

jubilant · ‎06-10-2010

@proudlyfromNJ

I am aggravated. I dread going to the doctor these days. My family doctor said to me...."You've got to take this medicine". The cardio PA told me the exact same thing. My cardiologist told me, too. They plead their case and when I try to tell them why I feel as I do....they go right back to pleading their case. I feel they aren't listening to where I am coming from. When I left the cardio office last week, the doctor apologized for arguing with me. I accepted his apology. Then before he left the office he turned around and said that we would need to have this conversation again. This is after I said, no and he had written on my record sheet "patient is unwilling to take at this time". "No" means "No". I will not be railroaded into taking this medication. I thought long and hard and did a lot of research before I went into that appointment. I don't feel they understood a thing I said. They weren't listening. They want to treat me and that's understandable but they are "crossing a line" and not respecting my feelings or opinions. Take a cancer patient....It is their God-given right to either get treatment or refuse it. Same goes for heart disease and others.

jubilant · ‎06-10-2010

@caw

Thank you for that valuable information. I think it will help a lot of people.

proudlyfromNJ · ‎05-01-2010

@Addie2118 wrote:
The only comment I have is why aren't doctors more educated when it comes to vitamins and other supplements? I have repeated asked for a list of supplements that would be beneficial to me. They just shake their heads.

@Addie2118. When my bloodwork comes in and I am low in any vitamin, my Dr. will tell me to take them.

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

The more I read about bad doctors the more I am so grateful that DH have the one we see. He prescribes only as needed.

Thank the good Lord above for guiding us to him.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

jubilant · ‎06-10-2010

@hckynut

Hi, John. I know I'm rambling on. I'm frustrated that doctors don't get their heads together and discuss other problems the patient is facing. They just look at what their expertise is. I need someone who can pull all my medical issues together.

Maybe I would listen if they would listen to what I am saying. Next week, I am going to see a new family doctor and, hopefully, he can look at all my issues and address those things bothering me and giving me reason to not want to take the medicine they want me to take.

I'm old enough to remember when the family doctor, surgeons, and whom ever else was needed met outside your hospital room and had a pow wow. These days, it seems to me like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. I am going through a lot of colon and gastro problems now. I told them I felt those problems needed to be addressed before I put yet another pill in my stomach that may give me more pain than I already have and they don't even acknowledge it. It's like....just take the pill and we will go from there. Sorry, I don't think that's the way it works. Anyway this doctor I chose for my new family doctor is coming from the top hospital in the state and comes highly recommended. Maybe he will be able to consider "the whole person".

Drythe · ‎07-09-2011

@Nightowlz wrote:
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:
@Nightowlz wrote:
It's a bunch of BS IMO.
They change what the normal should be so they can put more people on Big Pharma Drugs.
I have already told my doctor I'm going by what the levels on blood pressure, cholesterol etc used to be not by the changes they keep making.
I'm the patient I have a right to decide if I want to take what you are prescribing. Just because the doctor says I need it does mean I have to take it.
All I can say is good luck telling your doctor you won't take it. I have had doctors tell me to find a new doctor because I won't do as they say.
It's my body.
IMO the more Big Pharma drugs you take the more you will have to take & the more problems you have had. I have seen it.
I'm hypothyroid so I take NP Thyroid. If I did not have that I would never go to the doctor.
By the way all these doctors prescribe the new drugs which cost a lot more money. All you have to do if you need the drug is tell your doctor you will take a drug that has been out on the market for years with a history plus a lower price tag. Don't let them tell you there is not such drug. Most likely there is.

@Nightowlz @jubilant

Of course it's your body, and you don't need to take what your MD says you need.

Unfortunately, there's a serious malpractice consideration most people chose to ignore.

Example --- A person dies from some affliction, and a family member consults with a medical lawsuit attorney. Attorney says person would have lived IF the doc had prescribed XYZ Drug, so they sue for malpractice. Suddenly it's the doctor's fault that the patient wouldn't take the medication ..... and the family wants money.

Happens all the time, unfortunately, which is probably why they tell you to go to another doctor. They shouldn't be held legally liable if a patient is uncooperative! JMO

Doctors are "dammed if they do, and dammed if they don't" prescribe. (Misspelling intentional to avoid censorship, lol)

@Tinkrbl44

Well I still need a doctor to prescribe my thyroid medication.
Wish I did not have to take it because I would never go to the doctor.
I don't need them telling me I need this test or that test or this medication or that one.
They prescribe one only to cause other problems so they can prescribe another one & so on & so on. I'm not playing that game.
If I'm having a problem then we will discuss medication.
If I'm not having any problems & my labs are within range to my satisfaction don't try to push Big Pharma Drugs on me.
If my doctor had his way I would be taking high blood pressure medication plus statins. I don't need either one IMO.
If the doctor needs me to sign some paper saying I refuse xyz drugs/tests I will sign it.
My doctor is half my age & I feel he's a little intimidated by me.
At least this post reminded me I need to cancel that appt they made for me next month. I told him I'm only coming in 1 time per year.

@Nightowlz

With all due courtesy, if I were your physician ‘intimidated’ by you is not likely what I’d feel.

"Animals are not my whole world, but they have made my world whole" ~ Roger Caras

SilleeMee · ‎05-22-2016

@Addie2118 wrote:
The only comment I have is why aren't doctors more educated when it comes to vitamins and other supplements? I have repeated asked for a list of supplements that would be beneficial to me. They just shake their heads.

Determining if a person is deficient in a vitamin or supplement is difficult to test for. There are no standards established to do this. Test results are all over the place. Testing facilities don't have any guidelines to go by. Doctors have no idea what to look at if they were given a list of lab results with vitamin levels. So they can't give you information that they have little to go on. @Addie2118

eta- By law, a doctor can only prescribe what the FDA has approved. Most vitamins and supps are not on that list. On rare instances, an experimental substance, one that has not been FDA approved yet, may be suggested but that needs your approval first to be taken.

Cakers3 · ‎06-17-2015

@jubilant I'm sorry you've had such problems and I hope your new doctor can tie up everything for you.

Good luck.

"" Compassion is a verb."-Thich Nhat Hanh

jubilant · ‎06-10-2010

@Cakers3 wrote:
The more I read about bad doctors the more I am so grateful that DH have the one we see. He prescribes only as needed.

Thank the good Lord above for guiding us to him.

I had a doctor like that for many years. I also had a great surgeon for other surgeries I've had. My gastro dr. quit his practice so now I am looking again. Sometimes I feel like they don't make them like they used to. That's probably not fair....maybe it's just I've had (in years past)really capable doctors who knew the importance of sharing information and looking at a patients history from all sides. I think that is sadly lacking in today's world.