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05-03-2016 11:21 PM
People with this problem can go to a speech therapist. Among other things, the therapist teaches them to thicken liquids.
05-04-2016 08:13 AM
@LilacTree, have you considered getting a medical alert device? You would be able to summon help if you are alone or find it hard to say something even when your family is there.
05-04-2016 09:25 AM
@Zita wrote:@Tinkrbl44 I do the same thing with PB -- by the spoonful, but I am mindful! A friend of mine's son choked on a glob of PB, passed out and ended up permanently disabled.
When you live alone, it's problematic!
@Zita You know, I love to eat Jif Extra Crunchy out of the jar with a teaspoon too. I haven't had a problem choking on it, but I never put the whole spoonful in my mouth at once. I just take little bits off with my tongue until the spoon is clean. So much safer, and I get to savor the flavor longer!
05-04-2016 10:28 AM
@2blonde wrote:
@Zita wrote:@Tinkrbl44 I do the same thing with PB -- by the spoonful, but I am mindful! A friend of mine's son choked on a glob of PB, passed out and ended up permanently disabled.
When you live alone, it's problematic!
@Zita You know, I love to eat Jif Extra Crunchy out of the jar with a teaspoon too. I haven't had a problem choking on it, but I never put the whole spoonful in my mouth at once. I just take little bits off with my tongue until the spoon is clean. So much safer, and I get to savor the flavor longer!
You could be my dinner partner anytime! That is how I eat most things, make it last. I have lived alone for 12 years now and had some tense moments with choking ect. I worry more about cutting fingers and such and blood gushing everywhere more than any other incident. I did fall out of the shower one day and barely missed hitting my head on the toilet. That was scary. Sore but still in one piece.
05-04-2016 11:08 AM
@LilacTree--do you think this has to do with your stomach issue?
IIRC, you have gastro issues that have to do with muscles in your stomach And moving food along.
It seems the problem is actually starting before your stomach?
Definitely something to mention to your doctor.
05-04-2016 11:12 AM
@beckyb1012 OMG, I bet between the two of us we could devour an entire jar of Jif in one sitting! I come from a family of slow eaters anyway, and I just can't eat fast even if I try, which only results in an upset stomach anyway. I might add that eating slowly causes you to eat less food overall, and no one in my family has ever been overweight. I also have lived alone for a long time (except for my cat, of course), and my biggest fear is falling down the basement steps and landing on my head on the cement floor! Yikes! That fear definitely causes me to be extra cautious! ![]()
05-04-2016 11:27 AM - edited 05-04-2016 12:51 PM
@Lucky Charm It could. I have many autoimmune issues, so it could be any one of the them. Here is an excerpt of just one article on the manifestations of RA in the throat.
According to a new literature review in the journal Autoimmune Diseases, the prevalence of laryngeal symptoms of RA... from up to 31% of RA patients in 1960 (Lawry, 1984) to 75% by the end of the 20th century (Hamdan, 2013). At least a portion of this significant increase is likely due to increased awareness and better clinical diagnosis.
Symptoms of larynx involvement caused by RA include odynophagia (painful swallowing), foreign body sensation, dysphagia (difficulty swallowing), sore throat, lump sensation in the throat, change in voice quality (e.g. hoarseness, breathiness, vocal fatigue), referred otalgia (earache), and respiratory symptoms (e.g. shortness of breath, decreased exercise tolerance, stridor, dyspnea, respiratory distress). In rare cases, patients with RA may also present with symptoms of croup. Patients may also be asymptomatic.
Dysphonia, or change in voice quality, may be the most noticeable symptom caused by changes in the larynx caused by RA. The change in voice quality may vary from mild roughness to complete aphonia (inability to produce a sound). Based on the GRBAS scale - where G stands for grading, R for roughness, B for breathiness, A for asthenia, and S for straining - 35% of patients with RA have grades 2 and 3 (Amernik, 2007).
In a study of 77 patients with RA with average disease duration of 9.4 years, the most frequent complaints were foreign body sensation in 51%, hoarseness in 47%, and voice weakness in 29% of the cases (Amernik, 2007). In acute phases, patients may complain of burning, foreign body sensation in the throat, and difficulty in swallowing. In chronic cases, the cricoarytenoid joint (CAJ) can become fixed and airway symptoms that arise may require an emergency tracheotomy.
When inflammation is moderate and only one laryngeal joint is involved (CAJ or CTJ), patients may experience minimal airway symptoms, with occasional or mildly persistent respiratory discomfort, shortness of breath, and decrease in exercise tolerance. If both vocal cords are immobile, patients may experience breathiness, vocal fatigue, inability to sustain or produce sound. If the vocal cords are fixed in the midline, the arthritis may endanger the patient with dyspnea (difficulty swallowing) and choking.
Examination with an endoscope to view the larynx may reveal inflammation, mucosal edema, engorgement (hyperemia), myositis, impaired mobility or fixation of the vocal folds, inflammation of the epiglottis, rheumatic nodules, or Bamboo nodes. However, in the early stage of the disease, laryngeal examination may be normal.
Inflammatory masses or rheumatoid nodules in the larynx and pharynx are similar to rheumatoid nodules that can develop elsewhere in the body. The nodules can be submucosal and/or subcutaneous masses. Diagnosis of the nodule can be done by excising the lesion or by performing a fine-needle aspiration. Bamboo nodes are cystic yellowish deposits which are arranged transversally in the vocal folds. These lesions are seen more often in patients with active disease and in females with history of gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD).
Electromyography (EMG) is a useful test to distinguish between CAJ fixation and paralysis secondary to recurrent laryngeal nerve injury. High-resolution CT (computerized tomography) scan can detect CAJ arthritis in the early stages. Scans may reveal CAJ prominence, increased density of the joint, narrowing of the joint space, ankylosis, and vocal fold thickening.
Medical treatment for laryngeal manifestation of RA includes use of steroids or nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) to avoid formation of nodules or fibrosis. Steroids may be given systemically or locally injected into the joint. Bamboo nodes may be removed surgically. Conservative treatment may begin with speech therapy. If after speech therapy patients still have trouble with changes in vocal quality, steroid injection and surgical intervention may be advised. When both vocal folds are fixed in the midline, a tracheotomy (temporary or permanent) may be needed to alleviate the obstructed airway.
As RA can affect many areas of the body, including the biomechanics of the larynx, it is important for RA patients and physicians to be aware of the significance of subtle airway symptoms and/or changes in voice quality. If your voice has become hoarse, you feel as though you have something in your throat, or your breathing becomes stressed, tell your doctor. Early diagnosis, proper treatment, and rehabilitation of laryngeal manifestations can alleviate suffering and increase safety for the RA patient.
Sorry that is so long, but I understand links are frowned upon by most posters, so I copied and pasted a portion of this article.
I did go to a throat specialist at one time for hoarseness, but he did not pick this up, he said there was nothing wrong. He was not an RA doc or an autoimmune specialist. I am hoarse often and have a sore throat every day, so the choking is probably a manifestation of RA in my throat in the cricoarytenoid joint.
05-04-2016 11:32 AM
@Montana wrote:@LilacTree, have you considered getting a medical alert device? You would be able to summon help if you are alone or find it hard to say something even when your family is there.
I do have one, but in a couple of scary incidences I've had, I have forgotten to use it! With this particular affliction there is nothing they could do for me anyway. It comes on and goes away so fast.
05-04-2016 11:49 AM
@LilacTree That really hits home. I've had trouble with hoarseness and shortness of breath (when jogging) for years. I also have what I thought was some osteoarthritis, but I've often wondered about the RA type. I had just blamed the shortness of breath and hoarseness on my asthma and alergies. I do use Nasonex and Advair (for many years). I'll mention this to my doc when I see him on Monday.
05-04-2016 11:59 AM - edited 05-04-2016 12:05 PM
@2blonde wrote:@LilacTree That really hits home. I've had trouble with hoarseness and shortness of breath (when jogging) for years. I also have what I thought was some osteoarthritis, but I've often wondered about the RA type. I had just blamed the shortness of breath and hoarseness on my asthma and alergies. I do use Nasonex and Advair (for many years). I'll mention this to my doc when I see him on Monday.
@2blonde Glad you found this helpful. I have a Medicare Wellness checkup next Monday and will bring this article with me. They spend an hour or more checking you for everything, so I'm bringing my "folder," LOL.
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