Wellness

[sidsmom]

Carbs = Sugar?

(facepalm)

Whole food carbohydrates = glucose, fiber, vitamins, minerals, fat, protein

[hckynut]

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@hckynut wrote:

@Susan Louise 

You lived 60 years eating LFPB foods? Leading you to a slow death? Back in the 1960's I remember hearing about what foods did what for whom or why. 

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@hckynut  Yes.

Simply put:

carbs = sugars...which includes those whole grain breads, most high carb fruits and certain veggies. We certainly eat lots of salads, but don't have veggies like kidney beans in say like a chili. Again, it's all about the carbs.

DH and myself had bodies that reached a breaking point of too much carbs/sugars...period. For example, just one slice of whole wheat bread sends our blood sugar levels off the charts. The only bread we can eat now which keeps our blood sugar numbers normal is sprouted flaxseed bread. The only cereal we can eat is oatmeal and only once every 7-10 days.

That is besides the obvious other high carb processed foods.

DH became a type 2 diabetic last yr at 52. I became pre-diabetic at 59...one slippery step from being a full blown type 2 diabetic land and taking meds for that health issue too.

Since our lifestyle change, DH is off his 2 diabetic meds and Crestor. I am off Prevacid, Zantac  and Pepto-Bismol...amazing money savings...and being healthier is the ultimate bonus.

I am now getting exhausted re-explaining so much...LOL

Note: For those who know they have high blood sugar, are pre-diabetic, know it and have been told by their Dr from bloodwork, take the consequences of not changing your diet into consideration...

...it would only behoove you in the end.

@Susan Louise 

Sorry, I  have no idea why that posted before had finished it.

hckynut

[Susan Louise]

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@sidsmom wrote:

Carbs = Sugar?

(facepalm)

Whole food carbohydrates = glucose, fiber, vitamins, minerals, fat, protein

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@sidsmom  

So, what do you think glucose is? 

SUGAR...which is a CARB...which is BAD. Sugar is what causes the inflammation in many of us.

To a diabetic, it is terrible. It also effects those who have GERD/acid reflux/heartburn. Sure some of the 'whole carb foods' have some health benefits like some vitamins & protein, but those of us who MUST watch our sugar-carb intake can easily find alternatives without sugary carbs with the same vitamins, minerals, etc.

You do know carbs are either already a form of sugar or turn into sugar...right?

I feel as if you are just intentionally ignoring the whole carb = sugar issue.

[qbetzforreal]

Looks like this thread is veering off course liken to Left Twix vs Right Twix. Sweet potato vs Russet.  To the OP @Grouchomarx - you asked a simple question and received varying answers and suggestions.  No one likes to feel poorly.  My PCP admitted to me medicine is a practice, they (doctors) keep trying until they hit upon what works.  Good luck to you in finding relief.

[blackhole99]

@Grouchomarx If you have had endoscopy and there is no underlying reason for your reflux or heartburn other than what you are eating, try this. I was taking Nexium for 4 years and knew I did not want to continue on it long term. Someone on the forum suggested weaning yourself off it and that's how I kicked the habit. I first stopped drinking alcohol and then started weaning myself off the Nexium. I started with one pill every other day for a week,then one pill every two days for one week and so on. It worked for me. Also, if you can stand to lose a few pounds do that, even 5 or 10 pounds will make a difference. It's been 3 years since I've been off Nexium.

[sidsmom]

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

Carbs = Sugar?

(facepalm)

Whole food carbohydrates = glucose, fiber, vitamins, minerals, fat, protein

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@sidsmom  

So, what do you think glucose is? 

SUGAR...which is a CARB...which is BAD. Sugar is what causes the inflammation in many of us.

To a diabetic, it is terrible. It also effects those who have GERD/acid reflux/heartburn. Sure some of the 'whole carb foods' have some health benefits like some vitamins & protein, but those of us who MUST watch our sugar-carb intake can easily find alternatives without sugary carbs with the same vitamins, minerals, etc.

You do know carbs are either already a form of sugar or turn into sugar...right?

I feel as if you are just intentionally ignoring the whole carb = sugar issue.

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@Susan Louise 

But low carb’ers will equate Twinkies to white potatoes, because that is what their Glycemic Index tells them.  They are not the same.  And until people understand the difference, T2D will always be an issue. T2D is caused by fat, not ‘sugar’...not only will reducing the fat help in all parts of health, it will help with the acid reflux/heartburn/GERD, to stay on topic. 

[Trinity11]

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

Keto is not a ‘low carb’ diet.

Keto is a ‘High Fat’ diet.

All that fat, causing digestion to slooooooow down 

just exacerbates the heartburn/GERD condition.

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@sidsmom  I am sad you won't watch the video. One does not have to be 'keto' to reap the benefits of getting off OTC meds. The Dr explains about the heartburn/acid reflux/GERD.

I respect your totally opposite view of what you choose to eat/lifestyle, however, you are incorrect about what causes the condition.

You can trust me, by watching the video you won't be hypnotized into a keto lifestyle. He explains about the condition.

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@Susan Louise 

I honored your request & listened to the video.

I’m always game to learn about the opposition.

His quick fixes:

ACV, gum, licorice chews, baking soda, ginger root & salt (by his own admission ‘I’m not sure how that works, but it does”...odd coming from a doctor, but I continued on).

Long-term fixes:

1. Non-inflammatory diet. Correct. Processed foods, dairy...of course but the classic low-carb ‘grains’ was thrown in. No reason why...just ‘grains.’ A billion Chinese are all wrong for multi-thousands of years. Got it.

2. Lose weight. Correct

3. Stop eating before bedtime. If eating a LFPB diet, timing won’t be  an issue.

4. Incline the entire bed. Huh? Again, if making this a long-term solution, incorporating a LFPB Diet you wont have to alter your furniture.

5. Stop smoking/caffeine. Correct.

6. Probiotic. Mixed...at first when the gut bacteria is weak, a probiotic might be needed, but a LFPB diet is wonderful for healing & building gut bacteria, so probiotics are not needed for long-term solutions.

7. Too tight clothes. Of course. 

Keto diets (high in fat) and low carb diets are constipating.  Many different sphincters in your body are challenged when consuming low fiber foods which is basically Keto/low carb.  

High fiber naturally comes from plants/grains. High fiber foods will help one lose weight, reduce inflammation, naturally build gut bacteria & not challenge the straining to eliminate when not consuming fiberous foods.

In summary, he gives a lot of band-aid remedies, but not how to eliminate it permanently...in a healthy manner. We all know eating high fat & high animal products causes a plethora of cardiovascular & inflammation issues, but that’s another topic for another thread. 

The simplest way to reduce/eliminate acid reflux GERD is via a 

low fat whole foods plant based for long-term health results. 

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@sidsmom   Well, you missed the big point and that is getting off the terrible OTC meds...or worse if they are actually prescribed.

Taking the OTC acid blocking meds is counterproductive! I am mad at myself for taking any. The more I took the worse my acid reflux/Gerd/heartburn got. I wish I saw this video 5 yrs ago!!! I could have eliminated all the pain I went through and the thousands of $ I spent!!!

You also left out other facts in the video...as if you just cherry picked them.

We will just agree to disagree.

I lived eating your lifestyle for almost 60 yrs and it was leading me to a slow death. I've changed my eating lifestyle...again, not to 'keto' but low carb...there is a difference.

I'm sad about big pharm companies bleeding money off of people for their profits. I'm sad for patients who have Dr's who push the pills...either because they are too lazy to give the patient better/healthier options, or they themselves choose to close their eyes.

As I also mentioned before, one also can't change one's view on anything if they don't want to learn or change themselves.

Going low carb was NOT easy. It was painful in the beginning. It took about 2 months to get used to it. 

What were the alternatives for my husband and I to remain eating the way we were...what most would consider 'normal'?

DH staying on his diabetic meds...not just 1...but 2 AND crestor. I would be still taking Prevacid, Zantac and Pepto...and probably a lot more than I was at the end. I was drinking a bottle of Pepto almost every night...besides the Prevacid and about 3-6 Zantac daily. Every day I was getting worse physically and it was mentally depressing me.

What was my next step...seeing if Pepto has it available in a gallon container?

Just 3 weeks into eating a low carb diet, I didn't need the Pepto or Zantac anymore. I stayed on Prevacid til January because I feared stopping. What a fool I was. I could have stopped that immediately too!

I am able to lay flat in bed again when I go to sleep and not be propped up with 3 pillows anymore living in fear of choking on acid reflux in the middle of the night...pure joy and relief! I had not slept normally in bed for 5 yrs. I lierally have not had one incident of acid reflux since my change in lifestyle...and without meds!

AND DH is now off both of his type 2 diabeties meds and crestor.

Pharma companies don't like us anymore. They don't want people to be healthy...it cuts into their profit margins. Imagine what would happen if more folks took matters into their own hands to gett OFF most...if not all of thier meds? Food for thought...

OMG! The money we are saving is off the charts and ge this...the bonus is we are healthier!

I guess I choose doing a little more work by being very selective on carbs, counting carbs and making foods I enjoy like chocolate chip cookies using different ingredients...like almond flour and not white flour and eliminating the sugar with a better alternative...and using Lily's chocolate chips instead of Nestle's. So we still enjoy most of the foods we always loved...we are not deprived...but just make them low carb friendly. There are countless substitution low carb recipes online.

As I have mentioned in other posts of mine, most folks don't want to do the work and would rather just take pills. Just based upon the long term effects of PPI meds, I would rather get myself off of them totally then risk early dementia and more health issues.

For many diabetics that choose to take more insullin rather than change their diet, they are not becoming healthier doing so. They risk more dangerous side effects...loss of digits, limbs, sight, life.

I also choose to not be on meds because I'd rather spend money on other things or not have to dig into savings to pay for them. DH and I are saving literally hundreds of dollars MONTHY being off several meds now.

Sorry, but it makes no logical sense to me for folks to remain stubborn by not changing their lifestyle and staying on meds when there are ways to get off meds.

Additionally, IMO, being off of meds is healthier than being on them. Pharma companies don't make profits on healthy folks.

Yes, there are conditions folks have that they have no choice but to be on meds. But that is not true for all conditions. That is a fact.

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@Susan Louise  In the short term a keto based low carbohydrate diet is very attractive and tempting. At first for most Type 2 diabetics their numbers improve and various other health issues may go into remission for awhile. But down the road there will be a big price to pay. Heart Disease. I am the poster child, as a Type 1 diabetic, who thought eating a high fat, low carbohydrate diet would keep my A1C low and using less insulin would be helpful. All that time harmful fat deposits were being added to my coronary arteries even with A1C's in the 5's. All of it was laying the groundwork for blockages in my coronary arteries.

So I cannot agree with your statement that diabetics lose their limbs etc from using more insulin. If anything, insulin is a hormone that will help them to eat a BALANCED diet where all the nutrients necessary for good health are ingested. Yes, some fat, some carbohydrates and some protein and not these fad diets that ended up (I believe) in my having two major heart attacks that nearly killed me.

Keto/Low Carbohydrates? Maybe they help in the short term but just wait for what is yet to come. It isn't pretty....

[Susan Louise]

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

Keto is not a ‘low carb’ diet.

Keto is a ‘High Fat’ diet.

All that fat, causing digestion to slooooooow down 

just exacerbates the heartburn/GERD condition.

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@sidsmom  I am sad you won't watch the video. One does not have to be 'keto' to reap the benefits of getting off OTC meds. The Dr explains about the heartburn/acid reflux/GERD.

I respect your totally opposite view of what you choose to eat/lifestyle, however, you are incorrect about what causes the condition.

You can trust me, by watching the video you won't be hypnotized into a keto lifestyle. He explains about the condition.

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@Susan Louise 

I honored your request & listened to the video.

I’m always game to learn about the opposition.

His quick fixes:

ACV, gum, licorice chews, baking soda, ginger root & salt (by his own admission ‘I’m not sure how that works, but it does”...odd coming from a doctor, but I continued on).

Long-term fixes:

1. Non-inflammatory diet. Correct. Processed foods, dairy...of course but the classic low-carb ‘grains’ was thrown in. No reason why...just ‘grains.’ A billion Chinese are all wrong for multi-thousands of years. Got it.

2. Lose weight. Correct

3. Stop eating before bedtime. If eating a LFPB diet, timing won’t be  an issue.

4. Incline the entire bed. Huh? Again, if making this a long-term solution, incorporating a LFPB Diet you wont have to alter your furniture.

5. Stop smoking/caffeine. Correct.

6. Probiotic. Mixed...at first when the gut bacteria is weak, a probiotic might be needed, but a LFPB diet is wonderful for healing & building gut bacteria, so probiotics are not needed for long-term solutions.

7. Too tight clothes. Of course. 

Keto diets (high in fat) and low carb diets are constipating.  Many different sphincters in your body are challenged when consuming low fiber foods which is basically Keto/low carb.  

High fiber naturally comes from plants/grains. High fiber foods will help one lose weight, reduce inflammation, naturally build gut bacteria & not challenge the straining to eliminate when not consuming fiberous foods.

In summary, he gives a lot of band-aid remedies, but not how to eliminate it permanently...in a healthy manner. We all know eating high fat & high animal products causes a plethora of cardiovascular & inflammation issues, but that’s another topic for another thread. 

The simplest way to reduce/eliminate acid reflux GERD is via a 

low fat whole foods plant based for long-term health results. 

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@sidsmom   Well, you missed the big point and that is getting off the terrible OTC meds...or worse if they are actually prescribed.

Taking the OTC acid blocking meds is counterproductive! I am mad at myself for taking any. The more I took the worse my acid reflux/Gerd/heartburn got. I wish I saw this video 5 yrs ago!!! I could have eliminated all the pain I went through and the thousands of $ I spent!!!

You also left out other facts in the video...as if you just cherry picked them.

We will just agree to disagree.

I lived eating your lifestyle for almost 60 yrs and it was leading me to a slow death. I've changed my eating lifestyle...again, not to 'keto' but low carb...there is a difference.

I'm sad about big pharm companies bleeding money off of people for their profits. I'm sad for patients who have Dr's who push the pills...either because they are too lazy to give the patient better/healthier options, or they themselves choose to close their eyes.

As I also mentioned before, one also can't change one's view on anything if they don't want to learn or change themselves.

Going low carb was NOT easy. It was painful in the beginning. It took about 2 months to get used to it. 

What were the alternatives for my husband and I to remain eating the way we were...what most would consider 'normal'?

DH staying on his diabetic meds...not just 1...but 2 AND crestor. I would be still taking Prevacid, Zantac and Pepto...and probably a lot more than I was at the end. I was drinking a bottle of Pepto almost every night...besides the Prevacid and about 3-6 Zantac daily. Every day I was getting worse physically and it was mentally depressing me.

What was my next step...seeing if Pepto has it available in a gallon container?

Just 3 weeks into eating a low carb diet, I didn't need the Pepto or Zantac anymore. I stayed on Prevacid til January because I feared stopping. What a fool I was. I could have stopped that immediately too!

I am able to lay flat in bed again when I go to sleep and not be propped up with 3 pillows anymore living in fear of choking on acid reflux in the middle of the night...pure joy and relief! I had not slept normally in bed for 5 yrs. I lierally have not had one incident of acid reflux since my change in lifestyle...and without meds!

AND DH is now off both of his type 2 diabeties meds and crestor.

Pharma companies don't like us anymore. They don't want people to be healthy...it cuts into their profit margins. Imagine what would happen if more folks took matters into their own hands to gett OFF most...if not all of thier meds? Food for thought...

OMG! The money we are saving is off the charts and ge this...the bonus is we are healthier!

I guess I choose doing a little more work by being very selective on carbs, counting carbs and making foods I enjoy like chocolate chip cookies using different ingredients...like almond flour and not white flour and eliminating the sugar with a better alternative...and using Lily's chocolate chips instead of Nestle's. So we still enjoy most of the foods we always loved...we are not deprived...but just make them low carb friendly. There are countless substitution low carb recipes online.

As I have mentioned in other posts of mine, most folks don't want to do the work and would rather just take pills. Just based upon the long term effects of PPI meds, I would rather get myself off of them totally then risk early dementia and more health issues.

For many diabetics that choose to take more insullin rather than change their diet, they are not becoming healthier doing so. They risk more dangerous side effects...loss of digits, limbs, sight, life.

I also choose to not be on meds because I'd rather spend money on other things or not have to dig into savings to pay for them. DH and I are saving literally hundreds of dollars MONTHY being off several meds now.

Sorry, but it makes no logical sense to me for folks to remain stubborn by not changing their lifestyle and staying on meds when there are ways to get off meds.

Additionally, IMO, being off of meds is healthier than being on them. Pharma companies don't make profits on healthy folks.

Yes, there are conditions folks have that they have no choice but to be on meds. But that is not true for all conditions. That is a fact.

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@Susan Louise  In the short term a keto based low carbohydrate diet is very attractive and tempting. At first for most Type 2 diabetics their numbers improve and various other health issues may go into remission for awhile. But down the road there will be a big price to pay. Heart Disease. I am the poster child, as a Type 1 diabetic, who thought eating a high fat, low carbohydrate diet would keep my A1C low and using less insulin would be helpful. All that time harmful fat deposits were being added to my coronary arteries even with A1C's in the 5's. All of it was laying the groundwork for blockages in my coronary arteries.

So I cannot agree with your statement that diabetics lose their limbs etc from using more insulin. If anything, insulin is a hormone that will help them to eat a BALANCED diet where all the nutrients necessary for good health are ingested. Yes, some fat, some carbohydrates and some protein and not these fad diets that ended up (I believe) in my having two major heart attacks that nearly killed me.

Keto/Low Carbohydrates? Maybe they help in the short term but just wait for what is yet to come. It isn't pretty....

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@Trinity11  I respect your opinion of everything you stated. You are also a type 1 diabetic and things are different.

DH and I will be low carb the rest of our lives. We will not go back to sugar/carbs. That is what got us to where we were in the 1st place.

If we had been eating low carb all along I wouldn't have gotten all the health issues I did. Now they are gone.

My own biological mother lost both of her legs due to complications of diabeties because she didn't change her eating behavior. She died 2 weeks later at 49 yrs of age.

I have shared all I could to be helpful to others on this subject. Some folks will take everything I said like a grain of salt. I also believe there are others who will/have looked further into info/tips on the subjects I have shared to help themselves on their wellness journey.

Nobody follows another's journey on wellness down to the letter. We all take bits of info and test them out for ourselves. The wise folks also make sure their Dr isn't just pushing pills...but also offering alternatives without meds if it is possible.

The spectrum of folks and their own health issues is vast. The spectrum of how folks choose to take their own path is vast. The spectrum of how much work one is willing to do is vast....on and on.

I realize in your case you have to take your meds (type 1 diabetic).

We must all take our own wellness journey

[Trinity11]

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

Keto is not a ‘low carb’ diet.

Keto is a ‘High Fat’ diet.

All that fat, causing digestion to slooooooow down 

just exacerbates the heartburn/GERD condition.

---

@sidsmom  I am sad you won't watch the video. One does not have to be 'keto' to reap the benefits of getting off OTC meds. The Dr explains about the heartburn/acid reflux/GERD.

I respect your totally opposite view of what you choose to eat/lifestyle, however, you are incorrect about what causes the condition.

You can trust me, by watching the video you won't be hypnotized into a keto lifestyle. He explains about the condition.

---

@Susan Louise 

I honored your request & listened to the video.

I’m always game to learn about the opposition.

His quick fixes:

ACV, gum, licorice chews, baking soda, ginger root & salt (by his own admission ‘I’m not sure how that works, but it does”...odd coming from a doctor, but I continued on).

Long-term fixes:

1. Non-inflammatory diet. Correct. Processed foods, dairy...of course but the classic low-carb ‘grains’ was thrown in. No reason why...just ‘grains.’ A billion Chinese are all wrong for multi-thousands of years. Got it.

2. Lose weight. Correct

3. Stop eating before bedtime. If eating a LFPB diet, timing won’t be  an issue.

4. Incline the entire bed. Huh? Again, if making this a long-term solution, incorporating a LFPB Diet you wont have to alter your furniture.

5. Stop smoking/caffeine. Correct.

6. Probiotic. Mixed...at first when the gut bacteria is weak, a probiotic might be needed, but a LFPB diet is wonderful for healing & building gut bacteria, so probiotics are not needed for long-term solutions.

7. Too tight clothes. Of course. 

Keto diets (high in fat) and low carb diets are constipating.  Many different sphincters in your body are challenged when consuming low fiber foods which is basically Keto/low carb.  

High fiber naturally comes from plants/grains. High fiber foods will help one lose weight, reduce inflammation, naturally build gut bacteria & not challenge the straining to eliminate when not consuming fiberous foods.

In summary, he gives a lot of band-aid remedies, but not how to eliminate it permanently...in a healthy manner. We all know eating high fat & high animal products causes a plethora of cardiovascular & inflammation issues, but that’s another topic for another thread. 

The simplest way to reduce/eliminate acid reflux GERD is via a 

low fat whole foods plant based for long-term health results. 

---

@sidsmom   Well, you missed the big point and that is getting off the terrible OTC meds...or worse if they are actually prescribed.

Taking the OTC acid blocking meds is counterproductive! I am mad at myself for taking any. The more I took the worse my acid reflux/Gerd/heartburn got. I wish I saw this video 5 yrs ago!!! I could have eliminated all the pain I went through and the thousands of $ I spent!!!

You also left out other facts in the video...as if you just cherry picked them.

We will just agree to disagree.

I lived eating your lifestyle for almost 60 yrs and it was leading me to a slow death. I've changed my eating lifestyle...again, not to 'keto' but low carb...there is a difference.

I'm sad about big pharm companies bleeding money off of people for their profits. I'm sad for patients who have Dr's who push the pills...either because they are too lazy to give the patient better/healthier options, or they themselves choose to close their eyes.

As I also mentioned before, one also can't change one's view on anything if they don't want to learn or change themselves.

Going low carb was NOT easy. It was painful in the beginning. It took about 2 months to get used to it. 

What were the alternatives for my husband and I to remain eating the way we were...what most would consider 'normal'?

DH staying on his diabetic meds...not just 1...but 2 AND crestor. I would be still taking Prevacid, Zantac and Pepto...and probably a lot more than I was at the end. I was drinking a bottle of Pepto almost every night...besides the Prevacid and about 3-6 Zantac daily. Every day I was getting worse physically and it was mentally depressing me.

What was my next step...seeing if Pepto has it available in a gallon container?

Just 3 weeks into eating a low carb diet, I didn't need the Pepto or Zantac anymore. I stayed on Prevacid til January because I feared stopping. What a fool I was. I could have stopped that immediately too!

I am able to lay flat in bed again when I go to sleep and not be propped up with 3 pillows anymore living in fear of choking on acid reflux in the middle of the night...pure joy and relief! I had not slept normally in bed for 5 yrs. I lierally have not had one incident of acid reflux since my change in lifestyle...and without meds!

AND DH is now off both of his type 2 diabeties meds and crestor.

Pharma companies don't like us anymore. They don't want people to be healthy...it cuts into their profit margins. Imagine what would happen if more folks took matters into their own hands to gett OFF most...if not all of thier meds? Food for thought...

OMG! The money we are saving is off the charts and ge this...the bonus is we are healthier!

I guess I choose doing a little more work by being very selective on carbs, counting carbs and making foods I enjoy like chocolate chip cookies using different ingredients...like almond flour and not white flour and eliminating the sugar with a better alternative...and using Lily's chocolate chips instead of Nestle's. So we still enjoy most of the foods we always loved...we are not deprived...but just make them low carb friendly. There are countless substitution low carb recipes online.

As I have mentioned in other posts of mine, most folks don't want to do the work and would rather just take pills. Just based upon the long term effects of PPI meds, I would rather get myself off of them totally then risk early dementia and more health issues.

For many diabetics that choose to take more insullin rather than change their diet, they are not becoming healthier doing so. They risk more dangerous side effects...loss of digits, limbs, sight, life.

I also choose to not be on meds because I'd rather spend money on other things or not have to dig into savings to pay for them. DH and I are saving literally hundreds of dollars MONTHY being off several meds now.

Sorry, but it makes no logical sense to me for folks to remain stubborn by not changing their lifestyle and staying on meds when there are ways to get off meds.

Additionally, IMO, being off of meds is healthier than being on them. Pharma companies don't make profits on healthy folks.

Yes, there are conditions folks have that they have no choice but to be on meds. But that is not true for all conditions. That is a fact.

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@Susan Louise  In the short term a keto based low carbohydrate diet is very attractive and tempting. At first for most Type 2 diabetics their numbers improve and various other health issues may go into remission for awhile. But down the road there will be a big price to pay. Heart Disease. I am the poster child, as a Type 1 diabetic, who thought eating a high fat, low carbohydrate diet would keep my A1C low and using less insulin would be helpful. All that time harmful fat deposits were being added to my coronary arteries even with A1C's in the 5's. All of it was laying the groundwork for blockages in my coronary arteries.

So I cannot agree with your statement that diabetics lose their limbs etc from using more insulin. If anything, insulin is a hormone that will help them to eat a BALANCED diet where all the nutrients necessary for good health are ingested. Yes, some fat, some carbohydrates and some protein and not these fad diets that ended up (I believe) in my having two major heart attacks that nearly killed me.

Keto/Low Carbohydrates? Maybe they help in the short term but just wait for what is yet to come. It isn't pretty....

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@Trinity11  I respect your opinion of everything you stated. You are also a type 1 diabetic and things are different.

DH and I will be low carb the rest of our lives. We will not go back to sugar/carbs. That is what got us to where we were in the 1st place.

If we had been eating low carb all along I wouldn't have gotten all the health issues I did. Now they are gone.

My own biological mother lost both of her legs due to complications of diabeties because she didn't change her eating behavior. She died 2 weeks later at 49 yrs of age.

We must all take our own journey

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Respectfully, there is a big difference between a moderate, healthy well balanced diet and a low carbohydrate/ketogenic diet where the body is often in ketosis. You do not have to eat sugar in order to eat a moderate amount of carbohydrates. Once you start emphasizing fat and putting cream in your coffee that's where the coronary arteries are affected.

As far as Type 1 diabetes being different than Type 2 diabetes that is only partly true. Many Type 2 diabetics have to deal with insulin and medications along with an exercise and dietary plan. That same low carbohydrate/ketogenic diet will do exactly the same thing to anyone who follows it. Heart disease. It's a prescription for it and I just wanted to weigh in to perhaps save someone else from believing that it is a cure for anything...

[Susan Louise]

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@Trinity11 wrote:

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

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@Susan Louise wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

Keto is not a ‘low carb’ diet.

Keto is a ‘High Fat’ diet.

All that fat, causing digestion to slooooooow down 

just exacerbates the heartburn/GERD condition.

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@sidsmom  I am sad you won't watch the video. One does not have to be 'keto' to reap the benefits of getting off OTC meds. The Dr explains about the heartburn/acid reflux/GERD.

I respect your totally opposite view of what you choose to eat/lifestyle, however, you are incorrect about what causes the condition.

You can trust me, by watching the video you won't be hypnotized into a keto lifestyle. He explains about the condition.

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@Susan Louise 

I honored your request & listened to the video.

I’m always game to learn about the opposition.

His quick fixes:

ACV, gum, licorice chews, baking soda, ginger root & salt (by his own admission ‘I’m not sure how that works, but it does”...odd coming from a doctor, but I continued on).

Long-term fixes:

1. Non-inflammatory diet. Correct. Processed foods, dairy...of course but the classic low-carb ‘grains’ was thrown in. No reason why...just ‘grains.’ A billion Chinese are all wrong for multi-thousands of years. Got it.

2. Lose weight. Correct

3. Stop eating before bedtime. If eating a LFPB diet, timing won’t be  an issue.

4. Incline the entire bed. Huh? Again, if making this a long-term solution, incorporating a LFPB Diet you wont have to alter your furniture.

5. Stop smoking/caffeine. Correct.

6. Probiotic. Mixed...at first when the gut bacteria is weak, a probiotic might be needed, but a LFPB diet is wonderful for healing & building gut bacteria, so probiotics are not needed for long-term solutions.

7. Too tight clothes. Of course. 

Keto diets (high in fat) and low carb diets are constipating.  Many different sphincters in your body are challenged when consuming low fiber foods which is basically Keto/low carb.  

High fiber naturally comes from plants/grains. High fiber foods will help one lose weight, reduce inflammation, naturally build gut bacteria & not challenge the straining to eliminate when not consuming fiberous foods.

In summary, he gives a lot of band-aid remedies, but not how to eliminate it permanently...in a healthy manner. We all know eating high fat & high animal products causes a plethora of cardiovascular & inflammation issues, but that’s another topic for another thread. 

The simplest way to reduce/eliminate acid reflux GERD is via a 

low fat whole foods plant based for long-term health results. 

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@sidsmom   Well, you missed the big point and that is getting off the terrible OTC meds...or worse if they are actually prescribed.

Taking the OTC acid blocking meds is counterproductive! I am mad at myself for taking any. The more I took the worse my acid reflux/Gerd/heartburn got. I wish I saw this video 5 yrs ago!!! I could have eliminated all the pain I went through and the thousands of $ I spent!!!

You also left out other facts in the video...as if you just cherry picked them.

We will just agree to disagree.

I lived eating your lifestyle for almost 60 yrs and it was leading me to a slow death. I've changed my eating lifestyle...again, not to 'keto' but low carb...there is a difference.

I'm sad about big pharm companies bleeding money off of people for their profits. I'm sad for patients who have Dr's who push the pills...either because they are too lazy to give the patient better/healthier options, or they themselves choose to close their eyes.

As I also mentioned before, one also can't change one's view on anything if they don't want to learn or change themselves.

Going low carb was NOT easy. It was painful in the beginning. It took about 2 months to get used to it. 

What were the alternatives for my husband and I to remain eating the way we were...what most would consider 'normal'?

DH staying on his diabetic meds...not just 1...but 2 AND crestor. I would be still taking Prevacid, Zantac and Pepto...and probably a lot more than I was at the end. I was drinking a bottle of Pepto almost every night...besides the Prevacid and about 3-6 Zantac daily. Every day I was getting worse physically and it was mentally depressing me.

What was my next step...seeing if Pepto has it available in a gallon container?

Just 3 weeks into eating a low carb diet, I didn't need the Pepto or Zantac anymore. I stayed on Prevacid til January because I feared stopping. What a fool I was. I could have stopped that immediately too!

I am able to lay flat in bed again when I go to sleep and not be propped up with 3 pillows anymore living in fear of choking on acid reflux in the middle of the night...pure joy and relief! I had not slept normally in bed for 5 yrs. I lierally have not had one incident of acid reflux since my change in lifestyle...and without meds!

AND DH is now off both of his type 2 diabeties meds and crestor.

Pharma companies don't like us anymore. They don't want people to be healthy...it cuts into their profit margins. Imagine what would happen if more folks took matters into their own hands to gett OFF most...if not all of thier meds? Food for thought...

OMG! The money we are saving is off the charts and ge this...the bonus is we are healthier!

I guess I choose doing a little more work by being very selective on carbs, counting carbs and making foods I enjoy like chocolate chip cookies using different ingredients...like almond flour and not white flour and eliminating the sugar with a better alternative...and using Lily's chocolate chips instead of Nestle's. So we still enjoy most of the foods we always loved...we are not deprived...but just make them low carb friendly. There are countless substitution low carb recipes online.

As I have mentioned in other posts of mine, most folks don't want to do the work and would rather just take pills. Just based upon the long term effects of PPI meds, I would rather get myself off of them totally then risk early dementia and more health issues.

For many diabetics that choose to take more insullin rather than change their diet, they are not becoming healthier doing so. They risk more dangerous side effects...loss of digits, limbs, sight, life.

I also choose to not be on meds because I'd rather spend money on other things or not have to dig into savings to pay for them. DH and I are saving literally hundreds of dollars MONTHY being off several meds now.

Sorry, but it makes no logical sense to me for folks to remain stubborn by not changing their lifestyle and staying on meds when there are ways to get off meds.

Additionally, IMO, being off of meds is healthier than being on them. Pharma companies don't make profits on healthy folks.

Yes, there are conditions folks have that they have no choice but to be on meds. But that is not true for all conditions. That is a fact.

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@Susan Louise  In the short term a keto based low carbohydrate diet is very attractive and tempting. At first for most Type 2 diabetics their numbers improve and various other health issues may go into remission for awhile. But down the road there will be a big price to pay. Heart Disease. I am the poster child, as a Type 1 diabetic, who thought eating a high fat, low carbohydrate diet would keep my A1C low and using less insulin would be helpful. All that time harmful fat deposits were being added to my coronary arteries even with A1C's in the 5's. All of it was laying the groundwork for blockages in my coronary arteries.

So I cannot agree with your statement that diabetics lose their limbs etc from using more insulin. If anything, insulin is a hormone that will help them to eat a BALANCED diet where all the nutrients necessary for good health are ingested. Yes, some fat, some carbohydrates and some protein and not these fad diets that ended up (I believe) in my having two major heart attacks that nearly killed me.

Keto/Low Carbohydrates? Maybe they help in the short term but just wait for what is yet to come. It isn't pretty....

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@Trinity11  I respect your opinion of everything you stated. You are also a type 1 diabetic and things are different.

DH and I will be low carb the rest of our lives. We will not go back to sugar/carbs. That is what got us to where we were in the 1st place.

If we had been eating low carb all along I wouldn't have gotten all the health issues I did. Now they are gone.

My own biological mother lost both of her legs due to complications of diabeties because she didn't change her eating behavior. She died 2 weeks later at 49 yrs of age.

We must all take our own journey

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Respectfully, there is a big difference between a moderate, healthy well balanced diet and a low carbohydrate/ketogenic diet where the body is often in ketosis. You do not have to eat sugar in order to eat a moderate amount of carbohydrates. Once you start emphasizing fat and putting cream in your coffee that's where the coronary arteries are affected.

As far as Type 1 diabetes being different than Type 2 diabetes that is only partly true. Many Type 2 diabetics have to deal with insulin and medications along with an exercise and dietary plan. That same low carbohydrate/ketogenic diet will do exactly the same thing to anyone who follows it. Heart disease. It's a prescription for it and I just wanted to weigh in to perhaps save someone else from believing that it is a cure for anything...

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@Trinity11  I edited my previous post and added more text. 

As for this post I'll comment on that I never once said that low carb is a 'cure' for being a diabetic. However, my husband has been able to get off his 2 diabetic meds and Crestor. Since he did become a full fledged type 2 diabetic, he will always have to check his blood sugar daily for the rest of his life. I was pre-diabetic. I will be checking my blood sugar weekly the rest of my life.

I still have no GERD/acid reflux/heartburn anymore. To me, low carb did cure that issue...for me.

I also feel so much healthier...DH and I both do...and saving hundreds of dollars every month from not taking all those meds.

We will stick to our low carb for us. It is what works for us. DH's Dr is even proud that he is the only patient of his who took his low carb advice seriously (keeping the carb count to 50-70 daily). It is very doable. We are not deprived. We have our treats...low carb/keto recipes and FatSnax cookies.

@Trinity11  I can tell you are a sweet, kind person and I wish there was a way for you to be able to finally get off your insullin after 50 yrs