Wellness

[Ibby114]

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@MomCat wrote:

Yes, a disease that will not be cured unless the alcoholic decides to seek help.  I agree with some of the others - I don't need to see "celebrities" whine about their issues, like their story is somehow so special they really need to grab a microphone.  Talk to your circle of friends like the rest of us do.

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Alcoholism- as well as other addictions- is never cured. Being sober = remission. Once an addict feels they're cured, they're that much closer to falling off the wagon. 

[Ibby114]

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

I'm not interested, but perhaps someone who is sick and tired of being sick and tired will decide to get sober after listening to her story.  That's how AA works.

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That's the best case scenario, but everyone's 'bottom' is different. 

[Ibby114]

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@software wrote:

I actually have more empathy for the obese.    We must eat, yes they make poor choices for whatever reason, usually some sort of mental illness.   But we can avoid & live without alcohol.   Food, that's a different story.

The obese are horribly mistreated while society embraces alcohol & the alcoholic, recovering or not.

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Excellent point! When you've had weight isssues most of your life , balancing your relationship with food is very complex. It's not what you eat.... it's what's eating you. 

[Ibby114]

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@Greeneyedlady21 wrote:

I am waiting to watch it, as someone  who has been deeply affected by growing up with two alcoholic parents. My father is in his 80's and in a facility, he has dementia as a result of his drinking. My mother finally quit about four years ago. I know that she suffers from anxiety and was self medicating. Most likely depression too. I have some of  those issues but I am determined not to turn to alcohol. I have found more positive ways to cope. 

Maybe for people like me and others it helps to  see someone like Elizabeth, helps in understanding and helps to feel less alone. I don't care about her celebrity or whether or not alcoholism is a disease. All I care about and know for sure is the pain that it creates.

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Excessive drinking doesn't cause dementia- it  can cause brain damage (which might appear as dementia on the surface).

[esmeraldagooch]

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@Ibby114 wrote:

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

I'm not interested, but perhaps someone who is sick and tired of being sick and tired will decide to get sober after listening to her story.  That's how AA works.

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That's the best case scenario, but everyone's 'bottom' is different. 

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I don't remember saying anything about bottoms.  If the person does choose to get help only 3 in 100 will find long term success.

I for one listened to a AA member's tail and decided I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and took action.  I've been successful for 16 years.  This does occur.

[Trinity11]

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

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@Ibby114 wrote:

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

I'm not interested, but perhaps someone who is sick and tired of being sick and tired will decide to get sober after listening to her story.  That's how AA works.

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That's the best case scenario, but everyone's 'bottom' is different. 

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I don't remember saying anything about bottoms.  If the person does choose to get help only 3 in 100 will find long term success.

I for one listened to a AA member's tail and decided I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and took action.  I've been successful for 16 years.  This does occur.

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@esmeraldagoochCongratulations..... having many relatives suffering from the disease of alcoholism, I think it speaks to your tremendous will power and fortitude. Brava!!

[Ibby114]

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

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@Ibby114 wrote:

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@esmeraldagooch wrote:

I'm not interested, but perhaps someone who is sick and tired of being sick and tired will decide to get sober after listening to her story.  That's how AA works.

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That's the best case scenario, but everyone's 'bottom' is different. 

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I don't remember saying anything about bottoms.  If the person does choose to get help only 3 in 100 will find long term success.

I for one listened to a AA member's tail and decided I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and took action.  I've been successful for 16 years.  This does occur.

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Many  don't stop because of what's heard in meetings or from your sponsor - you've been blessed and many congrats  on your long term sobriety!   Many (my ex, for one)  have all sorts of legal/medical/personal/etc issues - the 'bottom'  can vary before they seek help.

I found my '-anon' support group invaluable, even if the recovering addict is no longer in your life!  I'm not  a religious person, but The Serenity Prayer keeps me centered.

[Moonchilde]

What I find interesting is that on one side of my family there was alcoholism for at least three generations - a pretty strong history - and I have no propensity to drink to that stage. I certainly drink, and more than one 😏, but can then go extended periods of time (weeks) without wanting any alcohol of any kind. I really am a "social drinker" as I can totally take it or leave it. But with such a strong family history it's surprising to me that I don't have the tendency.

[Greeneyedlady21]

My apologies if it's inappropriate to ask this, I guess because of anonymity sensitivies. But has anyone here been to ACOA meetings? A professional suggested to me that I try it, but there are no dedicated ACOA meetings near me at all. Just AA. I told her this and she told me that it is all covered under AA so I could just try that. They would include all that together?

That just doesn't make sense to me so I was wondering. I did read that there are closed vs open meetings. I wouldn't feel comfortable already (because that's just me), so I would feel worse if I was doing anything "wrong".

[riley1]

@Greeneyedlady21 - Have you tried searching ACOA - there is a meeting list that comes up. I've been to Al-Anon meetings. My parents did not drink, but several of my siblings sure did.

I'm like @Moonchilde - I can take it or leave it -