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09-23-2014 12:27 AM
Been a lacto-ovo since the mid 1970's and love my veggies. But "save my life"? Ain't no way I would ever take it that far as it would be a falacy, in my opinion. While what one eats for fuel for their body can help it perform better and possibly avoid some diseases, but?? Save your life? This vegetarian ain't buying it.
09-23-2014 11:35 AM
On 9/22/2014 hckynut said:Been a lacto-ovo since the mid 1970's and love my veggies. But "save my life"? Ain't no way I would ever take it that far as it would be a falacy, in my opinion. While what one eats for fuel for their body can help it perform better and possibly avoid some diseases, but?? Save your life? This vegetarian ain't buying it.
You might not "buy" it but it is a proven "fact" that eating vegetables can prevent many diseases. Just suppose you had eaten a diet laden with meat and sugar and never ate any vegetables throughout the years. I seriously doubt you would have survived your heart attacks. You have eaten well for years and clearly it must have had something to do with your excellent recovery.
09-23-2014 11:45 AM
09-23-2014 11:47 AM
Great information, AutumninNY- thanks for posting it! It's nice to have it all in one place. I have been expanding my go-to list of greens; the problem always is cooking and spoilage if you don't cook them soon enough. I've been tempted by beautiful greens in our farmers' market. Recently I've been dumping them in a broth to make soup and it works out fine.
Cooking might destroy some of the vitamins but it'll still maintain some nutrient benefit. That's what I am hoping anyway.
09-23-2014 12:42 PM
On 9/23/2014 SoftRaindrops said:On 9/22/2014 hckynut said:Been a lacto-ovo since the mid 1970's and love my veggies. But "save my life"? Ain't no way I would ever take it that far as it would be a falacy, in my opinion. While what one eats for fuel for their body can help it perform better and possibly avoid some diseases, but?? Save your life? This vegetarian ain't buying it.
You might not "buy" it but it is a proven "fact" that eating vegetables can prevent many diseases. Just suppose you had eaten a diet laden with meat and sugar and never ate any vegetables throughout the years. I seriously doubt you would have survived your heart attacks. You have eaten well for years and clearly it must have had something to do with your excellent recovery.
SoftRainDrops,
Sounds like you know my cardio history. While I think what I chose to eat was a good choice, much of my reason was because I felt it helped my athletic performances. I felt better and when feeling better one usually is able to perform individual or team activities at a higher level and for a longer period of time at that level.
While I did become a vegetarian because of my mothers side of the family and their disposition of dying from heart attacks, what helped me to be able to continue this method had more to do with athletic performance and giving my body the highest octane fuel to help it attain and maintain these levels.
With my first heart attack the Aspiration Pneumonia was what almost killed me, not the cardiac event. Without the heart attack I would not have had the other, but the credit from my doctors for saving my life was my huge lung capacity. That capacity was due to my many decades of long distance running and also doing all sorts of anaerobic exercises.
While I do not rule out veggies as helping with a lower risk of health issues, I could never point directly to them as a life saver. With my lung capacity however I can point directly to that as "saving my life" when I had my first heart attack. =^..^=
09-23-2014 01:06 PM
On 9/23/2014 hckynut said:On 9/23/2014 SoftRaindrops said:On 9/22/2014 hckynut said:Been a lacto-ovo since the mid 1970's and love my veggies. But "save my life"? Ain't no way I would ever take it that far as it would be a falacy, in my opinion. While what one eats for fuel for their body can help it perform better and possibly avoid some diseases, but?? Save your life? This vegetarian ain't buying it.
You might not "buy" it but it is a proven "fact" that eating vegetables can prevent many diseases. Just suppose you had eaten a diet laden with meat and sugar and never ate any vegetables throughout the years. I seriously doubt you would have survived your heart attacks. You have eaten well for years and clearly it must have had something to do with your excellent recovery.
SoftRainDrops,
Sounds like you know my cardio history. While I think what I chose to eat was a good choice, much of my reason was because I felt it helped my athletic performances. I felt better and when feeling better one usually is able to perform individual or team activities at a higher level and for a longer period of time at that level.
While I did become a vegetarian because of my mothers side of the family and their disposition of dying from heart attacks, what helped me to be able to continue this method had more to do with athletic performance and giving my body the highest octane fuel to help it attain and maintain these levels.
With my first heart attack the Aspiration Pneumonia was what almost killed me, not the cardiac event. Without the heart attack I would not have had the other, but the credit from my doctors for saving my life was my huge lung capacity. That capacity was due to my many decades of long distance running and also doing all sorts of anaerobic exercises.
While I do not rule out veggies as helping with a lower risk of health issues, I could never point directly to them as a life saver. With my lung capacity however I can point directly to that as "saving my life" when I had my first heart attack. =^..^=
Yes, I have read many of your posts regarding fitness and enjoy them immensely.
I think your healthy diet still must have something to do with your longevity, though. Genetics do play a role in heart health but there have been numerous studies that point out a diet consisting of small amounts of protein and lots of vegetables has completely reversed or benefited the patient when suffering from CAD.
09-26-2014 10:56 AM
On 9/22/2014 sciencegeek said:Actually, my doctors DID tell me to eat less greens. Why? Vitamin K is the antidote to warfarin, a blood thinner used by cardiac and stroke patients like me.
No healthy trend is right for everyone. Listen to your doctors, and not random people on bulletin boards.
Thanks for sharing this info.
09-26-2014 10:57 AM
On 9/23/2014 mustbuyless said:Great information, AutumninNY- thanks for posting it!
It's nice to have it all in one place. I have been expanding my go-to list of greens; the problem always is cooking and spoilage if you don't cook them soon enough. I've been tempted by beautiful greens in our farmers' market. Recently I've been dumping them in a broth to make soup and it works out fine.
Cooking might destroy some of the vitamins but it'll still maintain some nutrient benefit. That's what I am hoping anyway.
You're welcome.
10-09-2014 07:53 PM
Thank you for sharing. I'm going to step up my efforts to include more of these.
10-10-2014 02:19 AM
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