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Ibby114 · ‎03-10-2010

@Carmie wrote:
As a person who has gained and lost the same 100 lbs multiple times, I can tell you that for some people " counting calories and using will power" doesn't work, not because they can't stick with it, but because taking in less calories doesn't work

Scientists are working to find out why some people gain weight and some don't while eating the same amount of food and having the same level of activity.

Just this week, I saw where they discovered mice who gained weight by just smelling food. I was floored.

This subject is very complicated and very personal for all involved.

My friend lost her daughter due to complications from Gastric Bypass surgery. She was only 20 years old. She died on the day my friend was being buried...she died from cancer. My friend's son was at the cemetery for his mother's services when he received the call that his sister had died.

And yes, I do believe that some people eat way too much and that is why they are fat. And I know people who eat way too much and never gain a pound like my DH and his siblings.

i have held my weight steady for quite a few years now. My life as far as food isn't normal. I have celiac disease, so all those goodies that are made with flour are out. I live my life with no bread, pizza, cake, pie, cookies, and many other foods and drinks most people take for granted. It's been about 33 years since I have had anything made with wheat, rye or barley,

I still struggle to maintain my weight by eating fruits and vegetables and protein with very little dairy.

Often, I go without eating while traveling and attending functions... like a wedding reception, birthday parties and picnics. I have to sit there with only a drink while everyone else is eating. My DH always eats my food if it serve already plated, so there is no waste.

I have tried every diet plan out there over the years and never cheated. I gained weight while on WW, can you believe that? I was on a doctor supervised all liquid diet ( Medifast) and only lost seven lbs in three months. It was very expensive and wasn't working for me.

I don't need therapy because I don't have an eating problem. I have a metabolic problem that no one can figure out. I am sure as am not the only one.

Before I had children, I had no problems. A doctor told me pregnancy can bring about many issues and it seems my body was changed forever.

For everyone facing surgical weight loss methods, I wish them a healthier, longer life, we are all different and there is no shame in having to use surgical methods to lose weight. Counting calories alone and losing weight does not make anyone a better person or give them bragging rights.

Each of us has our own unique journey to success.

@CarmieWow! I used to joke that I gained weight if I walked into a bakery!!!

There's so much gluten free this/that in the market now. Has that helped to maintain your celiac disease?

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@SeaMaiden

I don't know if you whole post is quoting the FDA or not. Whomever said "without the crutch of so called "weight surgery", is confused about what weight loss surgery(it is not so-called"), and it is not a crutch.

Just as a treadmill/elliptical/swimming/skating, and on and on, they are not a crutch, they are a tool. I have never and will never view the FDA as being an expert source for advice when it comes to weighr loss. They can spew words such as crutch but to me that has no credulity, it is just someone's opinion, and nothing more.

I am well versed on weight loss/eating programs, and physical fitness. While I believe exercise and controlling the type and amount of foods ingested is the best route, I also know and understand, that many smart and decent people need more than just words and mental knowledge to accomplish their goals.

If you said "weight loss surgery is a crutch", you are wrong. I have been with my wife for 44 years, and during all those years I have been what many have called "an exercise and fitness nut". That did not miraculously transform my wife into being physically fit, nor being overweight.

She needed what I consider a tool, not a crutch, to be able to live a much better and active life. Her surgery was not "so-called", it was/is a fact that she has now been leading a healthy/physically fit, and happier life since using this tool in 2008. Overgeneralization to me is an insult to anyone that feels they need a well proven tool(specifically Roux-en-Y Surgery) to better their life.

Could type forever on this topic, but I have made my point and to those that think because they lost and maintained their weight without "tools"? Hello, if all bodies were the same, there wouldn't be all the proven methods that save human lives every day, and there is no 1 such thing.

hckynut(john)

Carmie · ‎10-25-2010

@Ibby114. I don't usually eat gluten baked goods., including breads. The calorie count is very high and the taste is not all that great. The stuff that is not too bad tasting is extremely high priced.

i just have to be a careful shopper. Things like mustard, cheese and prepared foods can contain gluten. Most items with Caramel coloring have gluten in them too.

i mostly follow a low carb diet, it's easy for me to do and it keeps my weight down and I am never hungry on it.

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@Carmie

Very well said and I thank you. Many just do not get it, and that is unfortunate.

hckynut(john)

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@Plaid Pants2

I agree with everything you said in your post, and I thank you for trying to make those, "that just do not get it", understand.

hckynut(john)

Moonchilde · ‎05-23-2010

So, just to clarify - all obese people overeat, period, right?

If they would just stop "overeating" all their problems (and their extra weight) would just...vanish, because simply eating too much food is the whole cause of all obesity - that and their mental illness and their not taking long walks - because of course, everyone "can" walk, so if they don't it must be because they're just lazy.

How utterly, totally offensive - not to mention utterly, totally wrong in so many ways.

Life without Mexican food is no life at all

scatcat · ‎03-15-2010

@Moonchilde wrote:
So, just to clarify - all obese people overeat, period, right?

If they would just stop "overeating" all their problems (and their extra weight) would just...vanish, because simply eating too much food is the whole cause of all obesity - that and their mental illness and their not taking long walks - because of course, everyone "can" walk, so if they don't it must be because they're just lazy.

How utterly, totally offensive - not to mention utterly, totally wrong in so many ways.

I do not know one obese person who does not overeat

Moonchilde · ‎05-23-2010

I clearly need the OP to help me lose weight. I often eat only 1-1/2 meals a day. If I dine out, I usually eat half my serving - not because I force myself to "only" eat half, but because I don't want to eat more - I'm "satisfied" with that smaller amount. I eat small meals and smallish portions because I don't want any more.

I watch my carbs, since I'm diabetic. Oh wait, that's my fault too, right? Never mind heredity, genes and all that silly stuff.

I cannot exercise easily or routinely because of multiple musculoskeletal issues visible on x-rays, not just in my head. Walking causes me considerable pain. But yes, I know - I'm not really in pain, it's just an excuse, right? I could find a way to exercise if I wanted to, so I must not want to - right? Never mind that I really miss doing all sorts of things I enjoy but I'm in too much discomfort to enjoy them - obviously there's a solution - just suck it up and do because (1) I really don't hurt, (2) My x-rays are bogus, (3) I could go swimming (where?), (4) I'm exaggerating, (5) I'm making it all up, it's aaaaallll "just an excuse" - right?

So tell me - when I eat smaller than usual amounts of lower carb food daily and cannot go out and take a hike, how should I, an obviously mentally ill glutton, lose weight?

I have no interest in weight loss surgery. Working in the medical field for so many years I know too many horror stories. One I remember well. A woman took a little over a month to die a horrible death from basically gangrene of the bowel after weight loss surgery. She literally died by inches. She was in her 40s.

Life without Mexican food is no life at all

happycat · ‎09-18-2010

Well, what about the people ( I can think of 2 right off the bat that I have personally known) who can't gain weight no matter what they eat? A friend in high school use to drink a carton of half and half for lunch every day, trying to gain weight. Never could gain, and she is still skinny all these years later.

Another friend I worked with, would eat out every day, eat anything she wanted. Never gained weight. She did tell me it was a blessing and a curse, because in the winter she would catch every bug that went around and missed a lot of work.

My sister went a running phase. She didn't change her diet at all, she is over weight and ran for a few years. Even ran a marathon and a half marathon, she trained every day.

She lost some toenails, but not weight.

I really don't think we can put all skinny people in a pot and say they are all anorexic, or all heavy people in a pot and say they are all overeating. There is a lot that is unknown. Some yes, but not all. People need to quit being so judgemental.

Trinity11 · ‎11-16-2014

@Moonchilde wrote:
I clearly need the OP to help me lose weight. I often eat only 1-1/2 meals a day. If I dine out, I usually eat half my serving - not because I force myself to "only" eat half, but because I don't want to eat more - I'm "satisfied" with that smaller amount. I eat small meals and smallish portions because I don't want any more.

I watch my carbs, since I'm diabetic. Oh wait, that's my fault too, right? Never mind heredity, genes and all that silly stuff.

I cannot exercise easily or routinely because of multiple musculoskeletal issues visible on x-rays, not just in my head. Walking causes me considerable pain. But yes, I know - I'm not really in pain, it's just an excuse, right? I could find a way to exercise if I wanted to, so I must not want to - right? Never mind that I really miss doing all sorts of things I enjoy but I'm in too much discomfort to enjoy them - obviously there's a solution - just suck it up and do because (1) I really don't hurt, (2) My x-rays are bogus, (3) I could go swimming (where?), (4) I'm exaggerating, (5) I'm making it all up, it's aaaaallll "just an excuse" - right?

So tell me - when I eat smaller than usual amounts of lower carb food daily and cannot go out and take a hike, how should I, an obviously mentally ill glutton, lose weight?

I have no interest in weight loss surgery. Working in the medical field for so many years I know too many horror stories. One I remember well. A woman took a little over a month to die a horrible death from basically gangrene of the bowel after weight loss surgery. She literally died by inches. She was in her 40s.

@MoonchildeIt's a scientific fact that having Type 2 diabetes leads to excess circulating insulin.....excess insulin that is not utilized leads to weight gain. People with Type 2 diabetes need a cure not a lecture on how they just need to eat less.(((((((((((((((((((((Moonchilde)))))))))))))))))) It always amazes me that people think that if they merely eat less and watch calories they will lose weight. There are many metabolic reasons why people cannot lose weight. It is not just calories in and calories out.

You and I are the polar opposites in regard to weight. I can eat a lot and never gain an ounce. But it came with a high price. I just go to a 500 blood sugar and the next day I lose a pound. The toll it took on my health is now showing up years later. The past twenty years I bordered on anorexia because I was trying harder but that too took a toll on my heart.

Basically, I think people who have never had issues with food don't have a clue.