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[phoenixbrd]

Attorney does not equa te high salary.....depends on the law school, standing in your class, and the law firm you work for.   More attorneys are earning middles class wages than those few hired by top tier corporate law firms.   You can go to night school and become an attorney. 

We flew business class to Italy.  The seat reclined to mimic a bed and was a very comfortable and enjoyable flight.

[ahoymate]

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@LindaSal wrote:

I believe "business" class and "first" class is now one in the same.  We recently went through all of this when booking flights we'll be taking to Italy later this month.  What differs is the actual planes.  Some have beds and some reclining seats.  I have only flown (I'll call it fancy) one other time in my life.  It was when we went to Hawaii about 10 years ago.  We travel alot and have always flown coach.  Our thing is now, physically it's getting more difficult to survive coach if you are flying any length of time.  We have the funds so we are willing to pay for it.  Plus I despise sitting close to some stranger........and I didn't like that even before Covid.   So whatever the reason is, affordable or not I hope they have a nice flight.

Yes, ITA. Here it is on google for those with doubts:

Most US carriers, for their part, had already abandoned first class seating over the previous decade. American Airlines is the last domestic provider offering first class on international flights, and it plans to phase those seats out at some point in 2024.

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[Kachina624]

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@Love my grandkids wrote:

@songbird I think it's funny that you think because your SIL is an attorney they would fly first class!!  I worked for attorneys for years, one very wealthy, and his family never flew first class. They spent their money on the trip instead. You sound kind of judgmental about that. Did you ask her about it?

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@Love my grandkids. @songbird 

Actually I  thought she sounded jealous of a trip somebody else was getting to take.

[rockygems123]

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@proudlyfromNJ wrote:

I worked for the airlines for almost twenty years. If there were seats available in business or first employees could have them. 

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@proudlyfromNJ 

When I worked at a domestic carrier, Delta Airlines, employees could ride in the front.

When working for Qantas Airways employees weren't allowed to travel in first or business on a regular pass, they didn't want to place an employee flying free next to someone who paid $8K++ for their ticket.

However Qantas allowed us to travel in Business if we were going on business.  I had a small amount of business in Sydney, I flew from SFO to Sydney in Business Class on the EUD Extended Upper Deck with only about 35 seats, separate from the main cabin, it was wonderful on a long haul flight. 

[proudlyfromNJ]

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@rockygems123 wrote:

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@proudlyfromNJ wrote:

I worked for the airlines for almost twenty years. If there were seats available in business or first employees could have them. 

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@proudlyfromNJ 

When I worked at a domestic carrier, Delta Airlines, employees could ride in the front.

When working for Qantas Airways employees weren't allowed to travel in first or business on a regular pass, they didn't want to place an employee flying free next to someone who paid $8K++ for their ticket.

However Qantas allowed us to travel in Business if we were going on business.  I had a small amount of business in Sydney, I flew from SFO to Sydney in Business Class on the EUD Extended Upper Deck with only about 35 seats, separate from the main cabin, it was wonderful on a long haul flight. 

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@rockygems123  My airline went out of business in 1991, Pan Am. If an employee flew in first or business we had to dress up and were told never to say you were an employee. Some of my family lives in Australia so they fly Qantas quite often. They were just here visiting.

[msgb]

I have one of my younger siblings living in Melbourne. He has lived there with his wife and two children for close to 10 years if not a little more. He and his children have flown back and forth between the US and Melbourne a few times. It is rather costly and I know they do not fly in the first or business class.

The last time my brother came into the US was in 2021 and it was not an easy task getting him into the US. The reason he came was to attend the funeral service of our Mom. We had set it for zoom in case he would not be able to attend. Thank goodness he was able to come. It would have been hard on the other 6 of us if one of the 7 of us was missing. My mother deserved to have her children there in attendence and we were all there.

[Sooner]

Gosh I guess people are talking about us. We don't always choose to do what we could afford to do!  We'll have to kick it up I guess! 

You just never know what people are thinking do you?  That's why I come here.  You can't buy a ticket to a lot of this stuff (pun intended).  

[rockygems123]

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@proudlyfromNJ wrote:

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@rockygems123 wrote:

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@proudlyfromNJ wrote:

I worked for the airlines for almost twenty years. If there were seats available in business or first employees could have them. 

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@proudlyfromNJ 

When I worked at a domestic carrier, Delta Airlines, employees could ride in the front.

When working for Qantas Airways employees weren't allowed to travel in first or business on a regular pass, they didn't want to place an employee flying free next to someone who paid $8K++ for their ticket.

However Qantas allowed us to travel in Business if we were going on business.  I had a small amount of business in Sydney, I flew from SFO to Sydney in Business Class on the EUD Extended Upper Deck with only about 35 seats, separate from the main cabin, it was wonderful on a long haul flight. 

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@rockygems123  My airline went out of business in 1991, Pan Am. If an employee flew in first or business we had to dress up and were told never to say you were an employee. Some of my family lives in Australia so they fly Qantas quite often. They were just here visiting.

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@proudlyfromNJ Pan Am, what a great airline.  Nice you could travel business or first on an international carrier.  Delta had the same rules, don't say you're an employee and never show your shoulders?!  So weird, traveling to New Orleans, Caribbean, etc hot and humid and had to wear a sweater.  

[Zwervend]

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@songbird wrote:

@kaydee500  I flew 1st class only once and I didn't even pay for it.  It was our honeymoon to Bermuda.  They had 2 seats left in economy, but they weren't together.  One in the front and one in the back of the plane.  So we separated.  After the plane took off, the stewardess quietly told us to come in to first class.  We didn't have to pay for it.  They also gave us champagne ( Brut French Demi Sec) 1st class at that time was empty too.

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Those days are long gone. FA's don't have the authority to move someone from coach to a premium cabin. First/Business is full with paying customers, or on domestic routes in the US, "elite" members of the airline frequent flyer program. Although I pay for the premium cabin, as a Platinum Medallion on Delta, I can view the upgrade list in the app, and there are often more people waiting for a seat up front then there are seats in the cabin. It's nearly impossible for any shenanigans to occur as it usually results in an immediate complaint to the airline from the person who got skipped over. If you do see an FA move someone up once the boarding door closes, it's because the gate agent gave them the info regarding who the next person on the upgrade list is and told them to go ahead and move them. 

Sadly, there are stil all kinds of travel blogs and sites out there that continually publish the "how to get upgraded for free" nonsense, and in-frequent travelers are in for a huge disappointment when they try the "it's my honeymoon/anniversary/birthday" ploy.