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[DREAMON]

 Bethenny crying was totally out of control. I know she regularly sees a therapist but I think she needs more than that or another therapist. 

Carole is so cold....I  don't find her one bit loving. She is just a cold fish.

Tinsley reminds me of a middle school teenager on vacation with her Aunts.

Lu really should not have gone on the trip knowing all the drinking that they do...just getting out of rehab and being around such a temptation plus the arguing and aggravation..no way a good idea.

Sonja did make me laugh when she ordered a Mocktini with a splash of Tequila.

Ramona really has cut down on her drinking. She and Sonja didn't annoy me this episode.

And then there is Dorinda...I think this episode showed that there really is a serious drinking problem with her. It is sad to think that she would see herself filmed in that condition and not want to get help. I really think she needs rehab more than Lu. 

I wonder if her drinking problem will be discussed at the reunion and how Dorinda will handle that. 

[CANDLEQUEEN]

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@DREAMON wrote:

 Bethenny crying was totally out of control. I know she regularly sees a therapist but I think she needs more than that or another therapist. 

Carole is so cold....I  don't find her one bit loving. She is just a cold fish.

Tinsley reminds me of a middle school teenager on vacation with her Aunts.

Lu really should not have gone on the trip knowing all the drinking that they do...just getting out of rehab and being around such a temptation plus the arguing and aggravation..no way a good idea.

Sonja did make me laugh when she ordered a Mocktini with a splash of Tequila.

Ramona really has cut down on her drinking. She and Sonja didn't annoy me this episode.

And then there is Dorinda...I think this episode showed that there really is a serious drinking problem with her. It is sad to think that she would see herself filmed in that condition and not want to get help. I really think she needs rehab more than Lu. 

I wonder if her drinking problem will be discussed at the reunion and how Dorinda will handle that. 

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I agree with you Dreamon. I love your analysis! I thought Sonja looked great in those shorts, now would I wear them? No, but her body looks amazing!!!!!Dorinda was so embarassing-she really needs to get some help, she really turns into a monster when she drinks......Why didn't Carole tell her aboout her lipstick all over her mouth when she was talking to her? lol. She looked like the joker.....Betheny is a mess and needs a better therapist!!!Sonja and Ramona didn't bother me this episode at all-they seemed like the two "sane " ones......lol.........

[sunshine45]

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@Wsmom wrote:

I can only take Bethenny in small doses, well all of them really, so I checked out of NY a couple of seasons ago, but I did read TMZ, which stated, "Our sources say BF controls the show and used her power to push Carole out of the picture...effectively reducing her camera time.  Behind the scenes, we're told, other cast members refer to 'RHONY' as 'The Bethenny Show'".

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that would NOT surprise me, especially since andy is pretty close with bethenny. i do believe he is also close with carole. i think carole has just had enough of the group and wants to move on and not make this her life.

i have not had a chance to watch last nights show yet. we were out and then came home to no electricity. it came on early this morning. the massive rain has really taken its toll on our state.....from saturday until now.

[bakergirl]

I guess we should have seen that coming. Carole did change. Do not know why. She started out sweet, cared less about fashion, had that younger boyfriend and was  it seemed a good friend to Bethenny. Carole did not want to get too deep with her friendships.

As for me, Bethenny has always been my favorite, from when she was financiallly strapped to meeting and marrying Jason and having Brynn. I thought the seasons she was not on had something missing. Also, I t hink many are jealous of Bethenny's success in business and she has a wicked sense of humon - to those who do not care for her, to each his own.

I have just about had enough of Ramona though. I still cannot figure out whether she is dumb, plays a dumb floozy or what.

[chiclets]

Reality

Carole was not doing the show she was on the show to do research on reality shows. Frenemies...using people, learning their secrets and weaknesses and smiling calmly and being innocent, yet understanding and truthful.

[CANDLEQUEEN]

Carole will probably write a Best Seller about the Housewives Franchise after all of this!

[Lipstickdiva]

I have never liked Carole from day 1.  I have always thought she came on with a superior attitude, as if she was above it all, but yet she was on the same show as everyone else.

Like @chiclets, I have always got the feeling this was a research project for Carole and it wouldn't surprise me if a book doesn't come out from all of this.

I believe i said in a thread yesterday that Carole definitely changed this season.  She became even more smug, superior and holier than though.  Someone else described her perfectly.  A cold fish.

Last night's episode was such a mess, I started to half pay attention.  Bethenny's crying over everything was over the top and ridiculous. She brings it all on herself and then expects everyone to cow tow to her because she's having problems.  If someone else had been acting this way, you can imagine B's comments.

Dorinda was embarrassing.  I want to think that on a WWHL episode, she said she quit drinking. Anyone remember that or is it wishful thinking on my part?  LOL    

[stevieb]

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@sunshine45 wrote:

honestly, i would have rather seen bethenny leave than carole.

but of course, bethenny puts on a much better show with all of her crying and hysterics and drama and brand advertising. LOL

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I often say I'd like to see this one gone or that one gone, but the truth is, other than possibly Tinsley, I'd probably miss any of them at some level were they to depart... I don't, however, expect to miss Carole very much at all... Sort of interesting last night when just the few original women were around the table for a couple of minutes... 

[stevieb]

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@Wsmom wrote:

I can only take Bethenny in small doses, well all of them really, so I checked out of NY a couple of seasons ago, but I did read TMZ, which stated, "Our sources say BF controls the show and used her power to push Carole out of the picture...effectively reducing her camera time.  Behind the scenes, we're told, other cast members refer to 'RHONY' as 'The Bethenny Show'".

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Maybe, maybe not. I don't doubt that Bethenny has a certain level of clout, but I didn't notice any reduction in camera time for Carole this season, she simply wasn't around Bethenny as much... And given they haven't started filming next year's shows, that seems sort of speculative. 

[stevieb]

@DREAMON I agree... Ramona and Sonja were pretty reasonable this time around... Carole just seems to carry her own personal chill in the air around with her... Tinsley, while essentially a nice person, continues just taking up space. She's like a mascot... The woman is vapid... Not stupid, mind you, just not interesting... She did annoy me when she seemed to be expressing understanding for why Dorina blew up, but then I think she's got the beginnings of a drinking problem of her own so maybe she was feeling a little defensive...