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[Pearlee]

@bathing, obviously you did not watch the show. She had a job at Mar a Lago where her father worked in the masseuse locker room and loved the serenity of it and decided she wanted a career as a masseuse. I am going to disregard your additional comments because you did not see the show and your comments IMO are off the mark for not having seen it.

[Pearlee]

Sorry my auto correct changed b a t h I n a s name and I cant edit my post on the device I'm typing on.

[bathina]

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@Pearlee wrote:
@bathing, obviously you did not watch the show. She had a job at Mar a Lago where her father worked in the masseuse locker room and loved the serenity of it and decided she wanted a career as a masseuse. I am going to disregard your additional comments because you did not see the show and your comments IMO are off the mark for not having seen it.

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You're disregarding it because you have no answer. I 

don't need to watch a show to be able to speak about this case. I've been following it since the Rose McGowan allegations.

So what if Virginia Roberts wanted to be a masseuse? She was a CHILD. She was targeted, groomed and raped. She bears no responsibility for what was done to her. I don't care if she wanted a career in porn. She was a kid who was abused.

I'll ask one more time, do you think the little boys who were raped by priests are partly to blame because they kept going back to church?

[Cakers3]

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@bathina wrote:
I just wonder how some posters here would feel if their 17 year old daughter was talked into giving massages, either by her friends or by a charismatic, fun, interesting adult who promises them the world. Those who say these girls hold responsibility have never been around young girls or dont understand how kids can be swayed. Do the boys molested by priest bear responsibility because they kept going back to church? Placing ANY blame on children who were abused by adults is disgusting.

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@bathina   ^THIS!!!!!! 

And where in the world does a person think watching "body language" indicates the person is not telling the truth???

How sad.

[dulwich]

@Pearlee   Just watched the program.  Watching her Yes, I do believe Virginia Roberts account of what happened to her.  I think it becomes somewhat ‘embellished’ because he was a Prince and as she stated she has a book in progress.

 My own thoughts are there is a big difference in thinking / maturity between  girls of 14 years and 17 years.  Virginia was 17 and after the first ‘interview’ made her own mind up to go back a second time so has to take some accountability.    Girls of 14 are indeed children and very gullible open to anything unfortunately coming across these recruiters blinding them with mansions and money.

There is is very little doubt in my mind that Andrew was involved but I think he was the same as many others who was introduced to these girls but he has a title - to me all these men were just the same - evil.  Andrew will never make any other statement than that which has been prepared and published already for him by the Family.  From all I have read I do believe that he was only involved with Virginia.

Very unfortunate that this did not all come out in court as the person responsible committed suicide and his crimes were horrific.

[Pearlee]

@dulwich. Thanks for your reply. I agree completely with your 14 vs 17 yrs comment and am glad you agree with me that she bears some responsibility.

[bathina]

Seventeen years old is a child. Children who have been molested bear no responsibility for their molestation. Dispicable, evil thinking.

[Puzzle Piece]

I didn't watch the show - didn't have to.  He's as guilty as 2 left shoes.  He's a creep.  Most roaysl know they have money, power and posistion to do what they like as they have done so for centuries. 

How many times did he visit that island?  He never saw all the photos on the walls with the children that would be there to service the clients?  He's a pig. 

[jeanlake]

The entire Epstein mess will most likely be an eye opener. Anyone mildly associated with this man should be nervous. I hope it continues to be investigated. Didn't P Andrew recently take a leave of absence -- drop out of life -- or something? He's connected to Ep and he has daughters. What a mess. I believe he's the Royal who has a lot of idle time on his hands. My speculation.    

[Sweet_Serenity]

Since on the subject of Epstein there is more to this story than the discussion in this thread. Involvement of powerful people never brought to justice. Definitely trafficking huge problem arrests small solution in shadows of secrecy-money talks. Epstein, Did not commit suicide. Talk amongst yourselves.