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08-21-2019 03:46 PM
If ever Dorothy McGuire was miscast it was in the movie with Guy Madison, Till the End of Time. Could not believe they cast her opposite him (hubba hubba). Just can't absorb that.
08-21-2019 07:58 PM
@lulu1 wrote:
@spiderw wrote:and of course Friendly Persuasion, great song!
How could I forget Pat Boone singing the theme song? We had the 45 and my sister and I played it over and over. (same with the theme from April Love)
I don't know how many times I've seen April Love. When he got up and sang the song in the contest, I thought I'd swoon. Still feel the same.
08-21-2019 08:50 PM
@Judaline wrote:If ever Dorothy McGuire was miscast it was in the movie with Guy Madison, Till the End of Time. Could not believe they cast her opposite him (hubba hubba). Just can't absorb that.
GUY MADISON! How did I miss that.
Well, I am off to watch Till the End of Time after The More the Merrier.
08-21-2019 08:53 PM - edited 08-21-2019 08:56 PM
Yesterday was the first time I "caught" the Theme from a Summer Place was playing on the ship. (Susan Slade)
08-26-2019 11:17 PM
@antiquarian wrote:
@NAES1 wrote:
@antiquarian wrote:@twinsister Oooh boy, SUSAN SLADE! I love that one, lol. Kitsch Central!! Jaunty Max Steiner score. To-die-for beach house. "Officer McShane" (Lloyd Nolan) as Dorothy's husband. (everything comes full circle, ha!). Troy Donahue, as always, is impossibly earnest. Connie Stevens, what can one say? Perky, bouncy, cute. Remember her as Cricket on Hawaiian Eye?
didn't you think that Troy Donahue was almost ideally stereotyped or those types of movies? Susan Slade was so similar to A Summer Place.
I did see him in person ( my hometown) when the girls were waiting outside screaming; the police disguised him as ''one of them"- uniform and all.
I was there for a conference meeting/ Hotel.
I do, @NAES1 -- frankly it's always been difficult for me to differentiate between those roles they put Troy in. PARRISH too I believe, plus some others. He did sort of "break out" by playing against type in MY BLOOD RUNS COLD. How lucky you were to have seen such an iconic teen idol in person! How did Troy look? (as a cop?)
Hello -hello dear and welcomed (new movie film noir taster) and everything else under the sun..
"... Oh, and thank you or such a keen eye what I noticed, also. @antiquarian .
I was not here when you posted, I have not been here since August 20th and just signed on about one hour ago replying back to many forum threads- - - to you as quickly as I can go - - -
I apologize for appearing as in not answering.
Tomorrow is our Wedding Anniversty, so I do want to read what I definitely did miss.
We had planned something completely different, not the usual go out to dinner.
Missed many replies:: I mentioned that on August 20th only to one person of my tenative absence...please understand... so actually back late this evening, then again, after the
( 27th/August (ANNIVERSARY)- very special ~
TD/ What he looked like was a dead give-a-way: No pot belly, beautiful tossled blonde hair lurking out on one side of the uniform cap, very ~ very tall and so trim and thin.
{{ There was the 1st clue I saw immediately }} !
He had a woven brown Italian pair of loafers on and the uniform was too short in length, also a day's growth of beard that glistened in the sun.
I made eye contact with him w/ a smirk as he passed by me and I could tell he was grateful I didn't give him away as he positioned his entire 'back of his hand' to his mouth as he tried a pretty bad cough.
Certainly knew he wasn't a policeman, and all *six policemen walking in a circle, very quickly.
Must have been all those Who Dunnit movie series I had analyzed, also, I was in seminar for [careers] -age 16, ... and he was no young 20 something, more like 28+ and that was old to me. Very cutesy, very much out of his faux profession in that gait and --someone else's uniformed. Caught him!
I have no idea why he was there or if there had been any type of movie premier, and WHY there?
I knew I was much older when I first saw the movie: A Summer Place, though. I definitely knew who he was.
The other 2 movies were much later.
Susan Slade was just a year ago on TV.
Hotel back lot: Haa, I moved to the side when a flood of high school girls came crashing through screaming.
Must have been the summer of delight for 18 year old
thumping girls.
Someone, later on told me that piece of information had been placed in the paper that he would be here, and where, (maybe because) the hotel was very new and farther away from the downtown section of town where all other hotels stood~?
So, I definitely agree with what you noted as I did with at least 3 of the movies he was in, or was going to be.
The last movie ( he was in) was something with Susan (sp) Pleshette, or is it Suzanne?
"........yes, very handsome for a 28+ something"..!!
I remembered the perfect nose. That is possibly the 1st thing I noticed in a [male, then], and still do to this day.
The days of no cell phones/w/cameras.
Just had gotten my driver's license.
Guess, I must have been a squirt to him.
08-27-2019 07:32 AM
I must note in passing, @NAES1, your sharp powers of observation at such a tender age-- you noted, and registered, and remembered, Troy's "woven brown Italian loafers", among all the other vying impressions that must have bombarded you at meeting such a young Adonis!
08-27-2019 11:01 AM
@NAES1 wrote:
@antiquarian wrote:
@NAES1 wrote:
@antiquarian wrote:@twinsister Oooh boy, SUSAN SLADE! I love that one, lol. Kitsch Central!! Jaunty Max Steiner score. To-die-for beach house. "Officer McShane" (Lloyd Nolan) as Dorothy's husband. (everything comes full circle, ha!). Troy Donahue, as always, is impossibly earnest. Connie Stevens, what can one say? Perky, bouncy, cute. Remember her as Cricket on Hawaiian Eye?
didn't you think that Troy Donahue was almost ideally stereotyped or those types of movies? Susan Slade was so similar to A Summer Place.
I did see him in person ( my hometown) when the girls were waiting outside screaming; the police disguised him as ''one of them"- uniform and all.
I was there for a conference meeting/ Hotel.
I do, @NAES1 -- frankly it's always been difficult for me to differentiate between those roles they put Troy in. PARRISH too I believe, plus some others. He did sort of "break out" by playing against type in MY BLOOD RUNS COLD. How lucky you were to have seen such an iconic teen idol in person! How did Troy look? (as a cop?)
Hello -hello dear and welcomed (new movie film noir taster) and everything else under the sun..
"... Oh, and thank you or such a keen eye what I noticed, also. @antiquarian .
I was not here when you posted, I have not been here since August 20th and just signed on about one hour ago replying back to many forum threads- - - to you as quickly as I can go - - -
I apologize for appearing as in not answering.
Tomorrow is our Wedding Anniversty, so I do want to read what I definitely did miss.
We had planned something completely different, not the usual go out to dinner.
Missed many replies:: I mentioned that on August 20th only to one person of my tenative absence...please understand... so actually back late this evening, then again, after the
( 27th/August (ANNIVERSARY)- very special ~
TD/ What he looked like was a dead give-a-way: No pot belly, beautiful tossled blonde hair lurking out on one side of the uniform cap, very ~ very tall and so trim and thin.
{{ There was the 1st clue I saw immediately }} !
He had a woven brown Italian pair of loafers on and the uniform was too short in length, also a day's growth of beard that glistened in the sun.
I made eye contact with him w/ a smirk as he passed by me and I could tell he was grateful I didn't give him away as he positioned his entire 'back of his hand' to his mouth as he tried a pretty bad cough.
Certainly knew he wasn't a policeman, and all *six policemen walking in a circle, very quickly.
Must have been all those Who Dunnit movie series I had analyzed, also, I was in seminar for [careers] -age 16, ... and he was no young 20 something, more like 28+ and that was old to me. Very cutesy, very much out of his faux profession in that gait and --someone else's uniformed. Caught him!
I have no idea why he was there or if there had been any type of movie premier, and WHY there?
I knew I was much older when I first saw the movie: A Summer Place, though. I definitely knew who he was.
The other 2 movies were much later.
Susan Slade was just a year ago on TV.
Hotel back lot: Haa, I moved to the side when a flood of high school girls came crashing through screaming.
Must have been the summer of delight for 18 year old
thumping girls.
Someone, later on told me that piece of information had been placed in the paper that he would be here, and where, (maybe because) the hotel was very new and farther away from the downtown section of town where all other hotels stood~?
So, I definitely agree with what you noted as I did with at least 3 of the movies he was in, or was going to be.
The last movie ( he was in) was something with Susan (sp) Pleshette, or is it Suzanne?
"........yes, very handsome for a 28+ something"..!!
I remembered the perfect nose. That is possibly the 1st thing I noticed in a [male, then], and still do to this day.
The days of no cell phones/w/cameras.
Just had gotten my driver's license.
Guess, I must have been a squirt to him.
No apologies necessary, @NAES1, and -- Happy Anniversary!
Wow! Thank you so much! As @Oznell notes, you have wonderful powers of description! It was really as though I was with you when Troy passed by. The way you mentioned his beard glistening in the sun -- beautiful! I guess no one could have thought this guy was a policeman, lol.
Suzanne was with him in Rome Adventure. Troy had competition from Rossano Brazzi in that one but I think Rossano had better luck with another actress (I won't give spoilers) in Three Coins in the Fountain.
08-27-2019 01:26 PM - edited 08-27-2019 02:14 PM
I am late to the Dorothy McGuire thread, but have enjoyed reading everyone's comments about this understated, under-rated and talented actress. I am a big fan, having first seen her in The Swiss Family Robinson and Three Coins in the Fountain on television as a youth. Her other films soon followed and I believe I have now seen most of them.
Later in life she admitted that she was not glamorous by Hollywood standards and was not as career driven as many other actresses of the time were so her body of work is rather small. She was also under contract to David Selznick for a time and he devoted more attention to Shirley Temple, Joan Fontaine and, of course, Jennifer Jones.
Loretta Young was once asked: "Why did Dorothy McGuire never become a big box office star and you did?"
Loretta answered: "That's easy. Dorothy wanted to be an actress. I wanted to be a star."
I watched "Mother Didn't Tell Me: and, while it was silly and dated, Dorothy showed her hand at light comedy which could have propelled her into others, were the film successful.
(She did get to wear some nice New Look dresses however}
The comparisons with Teresa Wright were spot-on as I often associate both actresses. (Teresa understudied Dorothy in the original Broadway production of "Our Town".)
Finally, I'll mention that Dorothy passed on September 13, 2001 and living in NYC, I didn't realize she had died until months later (although the New York Times did publish an obituary I missed it). Sadly, her low key approach to work resulted in a complete snubbing during the In Memorium at the Oscars the following year, even though she had been a nominee. Her family was upset at the slight.
Nice to read that she is still appreciated by many fans of classic film.
Dorothy and June Havoc in Mother Didn't Tell Me:
08-27-2019 04:46 PM
Terrific, informative backgrounder on Dorothy McGuire, @Johnnyeager -- thanks!
08-27-2019 05:56 PM - edited 08-28-2019 02:59 PM
Thanks @Oznell! I retain a lot of old movie trivia!
For example, I read that Gary Cooper was absolutely opposed to Dorothy in Friendly Persusion. I think he wanted someone like Maureen O'Hara, but he and Dorothy, as we see, worked out well together.
Gentleman's Agreement : Sure. Greg Peck is the center of the narrative, but I always see 4 really terrific females: Dorothy, Celeste Holm (she makes me laugh in a couple of scenes!), Anne Revere and June Havoc...a few powerful scenes.
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