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Re: THE FUGITIVE "CORNER OF HELL" DAVID JANSSEN BARRY MORSE MONDAY 2:00 A.M. EASTERN METV

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@twinsister. Many of your comments are similar to mine. I enjoyed your post and am glad you watched the YouTube version.

 

First of all, yes, the point of this entire show was the irony of Gerard being accused of something he didn't do but couldn't prove he didn't do, and facing death for it. I was glad to have watched this epi again if only for the look --daggers shooting from his eyes--- that DJ gave Gerard when Gerard said to him desperately "I didn't do it!"

DJ really was underrated as an actor. As I say, that look alone made watching the epi worthwhile.

 

And remember Gerard running through water briefly? That brief scene duplicated the old opening in Season 1 when Kimble ran through water and the frogs croaked.  Nice touch to put in.  Although like your wrecked car observation @drizzellla  Gerard wasn't wet from the waist down after that!

 

Twinsister, I noticed something like you did.When Kimble was tending to Evie's concussion when she first woke up, at one point he asks her "will you try?" And she gives him that "look of love" he received so many times from women.

 

@Oznell  In response to some of your dislikes, I didn't feel the same way about the sheriff because he was right about the hill people! Also, although I do think there are hill people like the ones in the show, I really disliked the fiddle music that played in the early scenes of them. The "turkey-in-the-straw-like" music mocked them as country bumpkin hillbillies which was mean and not necessary. We certainly got the point about them without the need to mock them.

 

I agree with your comments about the ending, twinsister. I thought Gerard didn't learn a darn thing! And by the way, I haven't heard a firearm / gun/weapon called  a pistol in years. 

So as I said earlier, although I always remember this epi as being preposterous (as I do an upcoming one where Gerard gets shot) I liked it better than I remembered it. The idea of the irony shown in Gerard's situation (which is mentioned by the narrator in the beginning) was a good one.

 

ETA Yes I noticed the stunt double!

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@drizzellla  I just noticed you edited your earlier post from saying you didn't like Kimball (sic) because he jutted his chin out and thought he was Mr. Hot Stuff

 I see now you meant Gerard.  Glad you edited it because I was going to suggest to @Oznell  that she either expel you from class or at least put you on detention for not liking Kimble! 😄

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@Pearlee wrote:

@drizzellla  I just noticed you edited your earlier post from saying you didn't like Kimball (sic) because he jutted his chin out and thought he was Mr. Hot Stuff

 I see now you meant Gerard.  Glad you edited it because I was going to suggest to @Oznell  that she either expel you from class or at least put you on detention for not liking Kimble! 😄


 

 

@Pearlee @drizzellla   I saw the original post last night also and thought to myself: Now that's a brave woman.

Was happy to see it was corrected this morning. Happy smiley 4

 

 

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@Tique wrote:

@Pearlee wrote:

@drizzellla  I just noticed you edited your earlier post from saying you didn't like Kimball (sic) because he jutted his chin out and thought he was Mr. Hot Stuff

 I see now you meant Gerard.  Glad you edited it because I was going to suggest to @Oznell  that she either expel you from class or at least put you on detention for not liking Kimble! 😄


 

 

@Pearlee @drizzellla   I saw the original post last night also and thought to myself: Now that's a brave woman.

Was happy to see it was corrected this morning. Happy smiley 4

 

 


@Tique  @drizzellla.  And the post didn't made sense to me because Ive never seen DJ jut his jaw out. And I wondered why Drizzella was even watching the show if she didn't like Kimble!

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Rats, I missed the stunt double, @twinsister !  But then, I'm terrible at that--  even the skating scenes in "The Bishop's Wife" have fooled me, until it was explained to me!

 

I could not agree more with your last paragraph, @twinsister --  would have loved to have seen more of an acknowledgement from Gerard toward Kimble, or at least more of a kind of bemused look of reassessment, or something!  I think it would have enriched the character...

 

Good point about "running through water" parallel, @Pearlee !  That's astute.  Also, about the mocking music.  I'm less inclined to give writers a break on this one-- there have been a few too many episodes that almost gleefully (and sometimes, quite ignorantly) depict rural characters in a cartoonish way.  I loathe when scripts treat groups-- even "moonshiners"-- as 'monolithic'-- at best, it seems like lazy writing, and at worst, verges on bigotry, I think....

 

Random observation--   I'm not sure I would have recognized Sharon Farrell if I hadn't seen her name in the credits....  I seem to remember her mostly as "glammed up" in other Sixties' roles....

 

 

 

 

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@Pearlee wrote:

@Tique wrote:

@Pearlee wrote:

@drizzellla  I just noticed you edited your earlier post from saying you didn't like Kimball (sic) because he jutted his chin out and thought he was Mr. Hot Stuff

 I see now you meant Gerard.  Glad you edited it because I was going to suggest to @Oznell  that she either expel you from class or at least put you on detention for not liking Kimble! 😄


 

 

@Pearlee @drizzellla   I saw the original post last night also and thought to myself: Now that's a brave woman.

Was happy to see it was corrected this morning. Happy smiley 4

 

 


@Tique  @drizzellla.  And the post didn't made sense to me because Ive never seen DJ jut his jaw out. And I wondered why Drizzella was even watching the show if she didn't like Kimble!

 

 


I posted that as I was watching the episode. I did it in a hurry because I didn't want to miss too much of the show. It was right at the beginning of the show. I have no idea why I wrote Kimball.

 

Imagine my surprise when I got up this morning and saw what I wrote. I could not believe that I did that. It is not too hard to tell the men apart. So I corrected my mistake and hoped no one saw what I wrote last night. Guess I was wrong - you did see my mistake.

 

Well, have to admit it is not the first mistake I have made and sadly won't be my last. Thanks for bearing with me.

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@Pearlee - I had forgotten about  Kimble and the water in the old opening sequence.

 

@Oznell - So true about Sharon Farrell.  She was in a lot of 60's shows as the glam, se*y swinger!

 

 

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@twinsister  How could you ever forget those annoying frogs?  🐸 😄

 

@drizzellla  That's easy to do, esp if you are typing while watching the show. Thank goodness you don't have to go to detention now!

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@Oznell 

 

The reason I liked this episode is because Gerard finally learned what it was like to be convicted of a crime he didn’t commit and almost hung for it.  The one cornered was Gerard, not Kimble.  Gerard almost said thank you, when released from the rope but just couldn’t get the words out.  Kimble finally had the upper hand, Gerard couldn’t stand the fact that he lost Kimble again.  Also thought Kimble understood this group.  He understood Farrell trying to steal his wallet, plus the fact that Tully was on his side didn’t hurt.

 

In retrospect I do agree.  The characters, written as being hillbillies of the day were more cartoonish than real, like the Beverly Hillbillies were over the top but a hit series.  It really was the times.  It’s appropriate to call it bigotry today.  Bruce Dern was toothy as you mentioned in your original comment.  His early works were horrid characters which he played well. As for Sharon Farrell, I thought she was a very underrated actress.  

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That's a good 'bottom line' point, about what Gerard had to learn in this episode, @chloe4578 --  I'm understanding a little more about why some of you like the episode better than I do, or at least, don't dislike it as much as I!

 

How interesting that you mention "The Beverly Hillbillies--  I was thinking of them in relation to this episode too!   The difference, I concluded, was that even with the Bev. Hillbillies, they were shown in all their variety.  A few were quite shrewd in their own way-- "Jed",  and even "Granny" too.  Among their extended family were some interesting characters, some benign, some not-- but there was at least variety in their humanity.

 

Having the Fugitive DVD's,  over time we did notice that, for whatever reason, the rural characters were often caricatures, sometimes a whole community, craven or looney or both,  etc.  I wouldn't have noticed just a one-off, but there did seem to be a bit of a pattern.  Not to belabor the point, but it seems to me now to be one small weak factor in what I consider to be one of the best series ever on American TV...

 

I wonder what it is about Bruce Dern that he seemed to gravitate toward wild, fringey characters right from the start of his career--  they fit him like a glove, and you can almost feel the enjoyment he has in creating them, the more flamboyant, the better!