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08-10-2019 05:52 PM
08-10-2019 06:54 PM - edited 08-10-2019 06:57 PM
I'd love to hear you expound on your particular reasons, @Highlands72, if you get a chance.
In my experience participating in or reading discussions about Casablanca, the overwhelming sentiment about the film seems to focus on the ill-fated love story of Rick and Ilsa. That particular aspect of the film is not very compelling to me, almost to the point where I set it aside altogether.
The supporting elements of the plot (always start with a map if you want to draw me in), the many paths that the Jewish emigrants took, winding their way through Europe and Africa, have always been so interesting to me. Aspects of war (World War II, in particular) apart from the battles themselves, are what always captivate me when watching a film of this era.
Back to the main point of love and romance: The true love story in this film is Ilsa's love for Victor Laszlo. Putting my own interpretation on this, I just feel as if Rick was nothing more than a diversion to Ilsa, that his love for her was not reciprocated. Throughout their time in Paris, she was grieving for Laszlo. She adored and admired Laszlo for his bravery and commitment to ideals, and in the end was willing to give him up to ensure his safety. Ending up with Rick would have been merely a consolation prize.
P.S. I am at this moment watching Mr. Roberts (for the umpteenth time) on Movies! channel. I wonder if I have ever mentioned just how much I love William Powell.
08-10-2019 07:16 PM
Love hearing your analysis, @Highlands72 -- always thought-provoking. The bond of Ilsa and Victor was indeed on a very high plane...
Me too for William Powell-- his throwaway elegance, his faultless timing, his humor-- his dimples! Such an appealing man and actor.
08-10-2019 07:45 PM
@spider woman wrote:
I have seen most if not all of Bogie's films and in fact many years ago, went through seeing his movies and Bette Davis's. Love Bogie in Barefoot Contessa, To Have and Have Not, Dark Passage, and of course the classic Casablanca. He truly was among the great actors of his time and still lives on .
He and Bette Davis are favorites of mine as well @spider woman . One of my all time favorite movies is The Petrified Forrest because they are both in it (as I'm sure you know). I enjoy all those you listed. High Sierra is my top favorite Bogie movie, although "In a Lonely Place" is among my top picks as well.
08-10-2019 08:21 PM
Thank you. In a Lonely Place is one of my favorites. Gloria Grahame is such a good actress, even though her facial expression rarely changes. I love to watch her. I've seen this movie many times and each time I see something that I missed.
08-10-2019 09:00 PM
Thanks, @oznell The best thing for me about CASABLANCA is Claude Rains. I do love the film overall and think it genuinely deserves its classic status. Just not crazy about Bogie crying into his liquor, even for lovely Ingrid. Humphrey is always best, imo, as either cynical, psycho, or both, lol.
You captured his performance in THE MALTESE FALCON perfectly. (and I lurve Mary Astor in what I think is her finest performance along with the one in DODSWORTH and that delicious cameo in HUSH, HUSH, SWEET CHARLOTTE)
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