@Icegoddess wrote:
@LoriLori, I was one of those who felt that Ashley's win was purely about her designig for plus-sized models. And, contrary to what she responded to all the people who felt the same way, it has nothing to do with not accepting plus-sized women. I think that was probably personal baggage talking.
I don't remember what season it was, but the one when the designer kept putting down his plus-sized "real woman" model I was disgusted with him. And previously I had really liked his work.
@Icegoddess If you're talking about season 3, Jeffrey designing for Angela's mother in the "real woman" challenge, he wasn't putting her down. Angela and Jeffrey didn't get along. Angela had zero talent; Jeffrey had a very successful line before he went on the show...
...anyway Angela and her mother were baiting Jeffrey the whole time. And he had a short fuse and he admitted it. His mother was there to comfort him, she felt terrible. He did what the woman asked for with his own spin and she complained and just kept asking for revisions and saying he wasn't respecting her and blah blah and -- sorry, playing the "fat" card.
Vincent's sister was as big as Angela's mother. Vincent was cuckoo for coco puffs but Vincent's sister played nice with Robert and was tactful and kind even though she probably didn't actually like what he made.
The whole challenge was a mess. They never should have done it. Robert's sister was a gorgeous stewardess with a perfect figure and of course she got picked first -- and Angela's mother got picked last. And she was bitter and nasty, like her daughter.
I couldn't wait for Angela to be eliminated and it was sweet justice that it was Catherine Malandrino in Paris who personally elminated Angela but not before she read her about how unfashionable her look was.
Now, IceGoddess, if you tell me you weren't referring to that episode I'll be kind of embarrassed.
But that's the famous one. It was one of those situations where you saw what you wanted depending on how you felt about Jeffrey. He was polarizing because he was the most successful designer cast to date, he had a big line already and dressed among others Gwen Stefani. Also he had a rough life and was in recovery and didn't have a sunny personality. I loved Jeffrey's designs and was horrified at Angela's mother's treatment of him and then she went behind the screen where Angela was working and Angela gave her instructions to go back at him again. Angela is nowhere now. Jeffrey's a success.
Then Laura went and accused him of cheating in the finale because she was jealous of his collection. Another one who went nowhere -- well, she's a success at archery. I don't know what kind of architect she was but she was never cut out to be a designer and her snobbery about never wearing jeans, well, most of us aren't gazillionaires and we wear jeans, especially ones with young kids.
Most people were not on Jeffrey's side in either situation, especially Angela's mother. And even when he was shown not to have cheated, to have made an honest mistake, people still call him a cheater. Jealousy. They've never cast anyone that successful again and that's as it should be, he was already there and he still is.
And yes he left his girlfriend for his model with whom he was sleeping the entire season. But that didn't last long and anyway imagine if Coco Chanel had to be on a reality show to try and get a leg up or John Galliano -- both of them horrible people. We don't admire them for their personalities.
Now tell me that's not the episode you were thinking of LOL.
@MarnieRez3 Word count! I wasn't going to post again haha. HUGE word count. HUGE.
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