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This new show begins Sunday at 9:00 on HBO, you can see the first two episodes on demand. It stars James Franco (plays twin brothers Vincent and Frank) and Maggie Gyllenhaal as Candy. I watched the first episode and thought it was very good. It takes place in NYC circa 1971, it deals with the exploration of the booming skin and porn trade, it's dirty and gritty. 

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No one but me is interested in this new show?

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I watched it! The pilot episode did not 'wow' me, but it interested me enough to keep watching. I love James Franco (even though the 'stache is cheesy) and Maggie G. Gritty is right....you can almost smell the cigarettes and stale...well, you know....

 

Hey, if you like MG, have you seen the movie Secretary? She is definitely drawn to flawed characters.

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I watched it.  At first I found it amusing how "nice" the pimps were to their "girls" until the very end.... Smiley Surprised  Now that's more like it.  Now the show has kept my interest to watch the rest of the episodes.

 

Took me towards the end to realize that the actor protraying the bartender is also protraying his twin brother.

 

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@Jordan2 wrote:

No one but me is interested in this new show?


James Franco can't act.  That's why we aren't watching it.

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I watched the first one.  Wow ---- pretty graphic at some points!!!  I guess they are trying to be realistic but sometimes I don't really think it's necessary to go as far as though do! Soon, it will be full frontal nudity and the total act from beginning to end.  I just think people who are making these shows are pushing the button further and further just to outdo each other and to get more attention because there is so much competition.  I did find the show interesting because those were interesting times, and since I am an older person I lived through that era, but --- really --- a lof of it is too much for me to enjoy.

 

Also I don't care for the lead actor.  Never have, never will.  I don't find him to be very talented.  Maggie is a good actress but I was rather surprised by her taking this role.  Seems kind of below her but I don't follow her that much so maybe this is the norm for her.  

 

I will watch again to see how I like it and go from there!!!  

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I watched the first one.  Wow ---- pretty graphic at some points!!!  I guess they are trying to be realistic but sometimes I don't really think it's necessary to go as far as though do! Soon, it will be full frontal nudity and the total act from beginning to end.  I just think people who are making these shows are pushing the button further and further just to outdo each other and to get more attention because there is so much competition.  I did find the show interesting because those were interesting times, and since I am an older person I lived through that era, but --- really --- a lof of it is too much for me to enjoy.

 

Also I don't care for the lead actor.  Never have, never will.  I don't find him to be very talented.  Maggie is a good actress but I was rather surprised by her taking this role.  Seems kind of below her but I don't follow her that much so maybe this is the norm for her.  

 

I will watch again to see how I like it and go from there!!!  


@AngelPuppy1, when one pays extra for a premium channel you expect the violence, nudity, and language. I'm surprised how much cable stations such as USA and TNT get away with nowadays, the language and nudity, which you never use to see and hear. 

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I am interested in this show because one of the writers, George Pelecanos, is from the Metro D.C. area.  

 

This past week The Washington Post published an interview with Pelecanos, and I delighted in two things we had in common.  One of them was that we both studied under the same brilliant professor at the University of Maryland, Dr. Charles C. Mish, but Pelecanos had him for the Crime Novel while I studied 17th-Century English Poetry under the marvelous Dr. Mish, a renowned expert on 17th-century English lit.  Mish is one of the reasons that I decided to study the same topic in grad school at the University of Pennsylvania.  (I was there a couple years before yoU-know-who, but I was the only woman in my literature and Old English classes other than one nun who matriculated in one of my four lit classes.  A different era, that's for sure.)  I adored Dr. Mish as much as Pelecanos did.  Mish was fun, a delight, imparted his knowledge successfully and was inspiring.

 

The other commonality I had was that we both know (for me, knew) a prominent member of a certain family.  It was just so much fun (in my mind) to have these things in common with Pelecanos.

 

(Why did I think "Pelecanos" had two 'l's?")

 

THE INTERVIEW:

 

 August 25

 

George Pelecanos has spent the past 30 years becoming a successful novelist and screenwriter. Along with David Simon, he’s now a co-writer and co-producer for “The Deuce,” an HBO series that debuts Sept. 10. It stars James Franco, who plays a pair of twin mobsters in Times Square. Pelecanos spoke to The Washington Post from his home in Silver Spring, Md.

Author George Pelecano (Andre Chung/for The Washington Post)

Q: How did your collaboration with David Simon on “The Deuce” come about?

A: Years ago, David and I met with a guy who had a mobbed-up bar in Times Square at the dawn of the modern pornography industry. After just a couple of hours with him, we decided to develop the story into a series. The characters were too rich to ignore. We brought in novelist Richard Price because no one writes about New York with his depth and humor. We also have Megan Abbott and Lisa Lutz, two very good novelists, on our writing staff.

Q: Did you all develop the plot, about prostitution in Times Square, together?

A: Prostitution is just a small element of the story. We have characters from all walks of life. It’s a panoramic look at a city in a moment when the selling of sex became legal. It’s also a story about labor and how people in the trenches profit the least. This time, the laborers weren’t in manufacturing. They were selling their own flesh.

Q: Is the story open-ended?

A: It will eventually encompass three different eras in Times Square history. So we hope to get three seasons out of it. Check that, because I’m an optimist: We will get three seasons. We already have it mapped out in our heads.

Q: When did you start making up stories?

A: My father owned and operated the Jefferson Coffee Shop, at 1225 19th St. in Northwest Washington, which is now Art Carlson’s beloved CF Folks. At 11 years old, in 1968, my job was to deliver food on foot, so I spent my day walking around the city. I had an active imagination, jacked up by movies. I passed the time making up stories and serializing them. My dad used to call me “the dreamer.” He was right.

Q: What turned you on to crime fiction?

A: My senior year at College Park, University of Maryland, I took an elective class in crime fiction taught by Charles C. Mish. He turned me on in a big way to reading and books. I was lucky to have a teacher who changed the course of my life.

Q: Did success come quickly?

A: After college, I spent a decade working the kinds of jobs that I write about — bartender, shoe salesman, kitchen man — while voraciously reading novels. At 31, I tried writing fiction for the first time, then sent the manuscript up to New York, un-agented and over the transom. A year later, I heard back from Gordon Van Gelder, a young editor at one of the big publishing houses. He had picked up my book off the slush pile and wanted to buy it. By then, I had nearly completed my second novel. The faucet was on.

Q: How did you start writing for “The Wire”?

A: I met David Simon at a funeral for a mutual friend in Baltimore. He had read one of my novels and asked me if I’d like to write a script for a new show he had sold to HBO. I had worked for Jim and Ted Pedas at Circle Films for nine years and done feature screenplays, so I had some experience. But working on “The Wire” was like going to graduate school. Over five seasons, I learned how to produce and write for television. David gave me that opportunity.

Q: Some of us think “The Wire” is the best TV dramatic series ever. Did it feel that way writing for it?

A: We kept our heads down and pushed a rock up a hill, day by day. But by the end of season two, it hit me that we were doing some pretty good work.

 

 

Q: You wrote four excellent novels about a D.C. private detective named Derek Strange — “Right As Rain,” “Hell to Pay,” “Soul Circus” and “Hard Revolution.” Will they become a television series?

A: I adapted “Hard Revolution,” my novel about the ’68 riots, for HBO, but it was put in turnaround. My plan now is to find another home for the Derek Strange story. I’m currently working on an anthology feature consisting of short films based on my stories. All of them are being shot in the District with local crews. I’m trying to get something going here.

Q: Will you be writing mostly TV and movies now?

A: I recently completed my 21st D.C. novel, “The Man Who Came Uptown,” to be published in 2018. I like working in television, but I’ll age out of it eventually. Then I’ll write books for the rest of my life. I’ll never retire, Pat. I’m still dreaming.

 

Patrick Anderson writes regularly about mysteries and thrillers for The Washington Post.

 

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@Jordan2 wrote:

@AngelPuppy1 wrote:

I watched the first one.  Wow ---- pretty graphic at some points!!!  I guess they are trying to be realistic but sometimes I don't really think it's necessary to go as far as though do! Soon, it will be full frontal nudity and the total act from beginning to end.  I just think people who are making these shows are pushing the button further and further just to outdo each other and to get more attention because there is so much competition.  I did find the show interesting because those were interesting times, and since I am an older person I lived through that era, but --- really --- a lof of it is too much for me to enjoy.

 

Also I don't care for the lead actor.  Never have, never will.  I don't find him to be very talented.  Maggie is a good actress but I was rather surprised by her taking this role.  Seems kind of below her but I don't follow her that much so maybe this is the norm for her.  

 

I will watch again to see how I like it and go from there!!!  


@AngelPuppy1, when one pays extra for a premium channel you expect the violence, nudity, and language. I'm surprised how much cable stations such as USA and TNT get away with nowadays, the language and nudity, which you never use to see and hear. 


@Jordan2

 

Yeah, I get that these extra pays seem to entitle the purveyors, developers, distributors, etc. with some added freedoms --- but does it have to be just more se*?  Couldn't it be more quality?  I guess not.  When I pay for these extra channels, that's sure not what I am looking for.  

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@Jordan2 wrote:

No one but me is interested in this new show?


James Franco can't act.  That's why we aren't watching it.


 

James Franco was really good in "127 Hours" and "Milk."  

 

 

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