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04-05-2023 09:02 PM
This series MARIE A. was written by the same woman who wrote THE FAVOURITE about Queen Anne, starring Olivia Coleman and Rachel Weize, Emma Stone. Didn't Olivia win an Oscar for this??
04-05-2023 09:14 PM
@stevieb wrote:Each to their own. If one wants a documentary then best to find one because for better or for worse, shows created as entertainment are almost always going to juice things up to a degree these days.
Love these "juiced up" versions! Who really knows what really happened back in those days??!! We can only imagine. The only one I will not watch is BLONDE on Netflix about Marilyn. That looks totally made up. Maybe it's too soon.
04-05-2023 09:17 PM
That explains a lot. That was a dumb...movie
PBS just dropped Queen Victoria series left us all high and dry. They need to hire writers who know what they're talking about and leave the sordid stuff alone.
Main thing most people will take away from this show is poor King Louis XVI had a rough time getting around to being a true husband in every sense of the word.
04-05-2023 09:28 PM
@chessylady wrote:I watched the whole Marie Antoinette series on Passport. I enjoyed the costumes, the acting and the storeyline. How much of the series is true to history,I do not know. It is an entertainment series, not a documentary. The Court of Versailles was a very sexy place so don't expect it to be PG rated. It was announced that there will be a second season on PBS.
@chessylady If it is entertainment, it should have been made about fictional people to begin with. It hurts PBS credibility, what little they have left, to sell it as a documentary in any measure.
04-06-2023 09:21 AM
@ritasNo1Fan wrote:
Love these historical series! SISI: AUSTRIAN EMPRESS is also excellent. Similar to MARIE A. I watched this on Amazon Prime.
For those folks that get their panties in a twist because facts are tweeked or they show too much loving, TOO BAD, READ A HISTORY BOOK IF YOU WANT THE FACTS.
Don't miss SISI: AUSTRIAN EMPRESS, 6 episodes, 2021, free with PBS Masterpiece subscription. Second series coming soon to USA.
If folks are watching just for the s*x I'd suggest watching a porno channel or going to a store that specializes in that sort of entertainment.
04-06-2023 10:03 AM
Oh come on, PBS is in part an entertainment channel. They'd never make it if all they offered were news and public affairs programs, given today's many options. While their entertainment programming isn't what it once was, as far as this show goes, there has been far more alluding to sex than there has been any actual sex. Were I in the market for something truly tawdry, I wouldn't go to PBS to find it and while I'm not a big fan of this series, it's hardly soft core porn. Personally, if there is fiction being introduced into this series, so be it. I don't have a problem with them mixing a bit of fact and fiction. Again, this was not intended as a documentary.
04-06-2023 10:13 AM
@SharkE wrote:That explains a lot. That was a dumb...movie
PBS just dropped Queen Victoria series left us all high and dry. They need to hire writers who know what they're talking about and leave the sordid stuff alone.
Main thing most people will take away from this show is poor King Louis XVI had a rough time getting around to being a true husband in every sense of the word.
The problem with Victoria is the woman who wrote the book was also hired as the screen writer and she simply wasn't able to condense the book into a reasonable series. A couple of seasons is all that should have been necessary to tell the story. Beyond that, it likely became costly to produce and, for some, it became tiresome. Incidentally, the writer acknowledges that not everthing in the series was factual, so the current Antoinette series is hardly the first to supplement reality in order to move the story along.
04-06-2023 07:36 PM
@SharkE wrote:
@chessylady wrote:I watched the whole Marie Antoinette series on Passport. I enjoyed the costumes, the acting and the storeyline. How much of the series is true to history,I do not know. It is an entertainment series, not a documentary. The Court of Versailles was a very sexy place so don't expect it to be PG rated. It was announced that there will be a second season on PBS.
Not sure how that can be unless they make up bunch of stuff. Du Barry got beheaded when she went back to get her jewelry, was caught, and went to the guillotine after she was told if she would turn over her jewels she would be saved, she did, they didn't.
Louis was beheaded, Marie was beheaded, the son
died while in captivity, one daughter survived and kept low profile rest of her life. Marie's faithful lady in waiting went first, they put her head on a spike and paraded around with it in front of Marie's cell window.
they messed around to long to leave the country and paid for it. Too many slips ups.
Read history don't take for granted what U see on TV
Mdm Tousaud's Wax Museum has recreated some of those scenes....very interesting. And gory.
04-07-2023 08:05 PM - edited 04-07-2023 08:39 PM
Her mother (Maria Theresa) was a horrible person. She was the empress of the Holy Roman Empire. Her husband, the emperor was Francis the First. She was a Habsburg. She was probably the most antisemitic royal figure ever. Her job was to oversee the empire and control who enters, who gets expelled, lives or dies there. While doing that, she produced 16 children of which I think 10 survived. Marie Antoinette was the youngest girl. She did poorly in languages and spoke French with an accent that annoyed the snobbish French. Maria Theresa and the current French king were on bad terms. In order to get him off her back, she married off Marie. Although Marie was initially popular, it went downhill pretty fast. The couple did not consummate the marriage for the first 8 years. Her husband had no idea what to do. Finally he was told how to and they had their 1st child. Her husband disliked sex and although they had 2 more children, the couple were never close and he was reluctant to be with her. . Outside of the bedroom the couple got along well. After Marie met Axel....well she became impregnated a lot quicker. At one point she became pregnant each year for the last 3 years.
I don't know if they will bring up the romance between Marie and Axel Von Fersen. They had a very secret love affair they managed to hide until it was revealed a few years ago. Up till then, it was rumored. They manage to get hold of some love letters between the two, written in code and deciphered them. It is suspected now that Marie's last two children was fathered by Fersen. The boy lived only for a few years and died while imprisoned. The girl, Sophie died 11 months after she was born. This revelation took place in 2019....so it might be in the show. Up until then, she supposedly stood by her very boring husband. This is big news. There is a link about it. Don't know if links are allowed. So google about Marie Antoinette and Axel Von Fersen. He was a Swedish count who outlived Marie by a few years. He died in 1810. Besides the link there is this:
In a recent study employing a technique called X-ray fluorescence spectroscopy, scientists discovered formerly redacted phrases on eight letters between Marie Antoinette and the Swedish count Axel Fersen, who was rumored to have been her lover.
On a little note that might be or not be in the mini series. As a very small child, Marie often played with Mozart. He was few months younger then she. I think they were 4 years old. It's a sweet antidote
04-10-2023 03:31 AM
@kittykatkay wrote:New series (8 parts) premieres Sunday, 19 March at 10 PM, EST. (right after Sandition).
Marie Antoinette is just a teenager when she leaves Austria to marry the Dauphin of France. At Versailles, under the complex rules of the French court, she suffers from not being able to live her life the way she wants, under the pressure to continue the Bourbon line and secure the Franco-Austrian alliance.
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