Marie Antoinette - New Series on PBS - Page 3

SharkE · ‎08-19-2010

She never said that by the way. Think 'cake' meant bread

back then. what makes me mad too is stuff you read then you find out later on that wasn't what was said, never happened, etc.

Just like 'The 3 faces of Eve" movie. That was what a psychiatrist made up. When I read that I couldn't believe it. Get so I don't believe nothing any more. Shouldn't be

legal. Myths and Legends galore turn out just to be gossip.

SharkE · ‎08-19-2010

@kittykatkay wrote:
@SharkE , WOW, what an interesting read. Thanks for posting this. Glad I didn't live back in those times. One thing I could not stand is to wear such heavy and puffy dresses and such....especially in the heat of summer. I would pass out.

think about the corsets ! cosmetics were made blended with lead, arsenic and chemicals we now know are poison.

Most Kings had people to taste their food first and if they didn't die then he would eat it. If the poor guy died then tough luck. Everybody wanted the position of

tending to the king's bathroom routine. Wiping. This

was considered a good job because you had his attention and it would be a good time to bring up

favors you wanted.

True ! Lots of other things went on, but, people wouldn't believe it. ROFL

spiderw · ‎06-14-2010

Mz iMac

I remember the Notorious Woman series in the seventies when Alastair Cooke was the host. Rosemary Harris and the rest of the cast were excellent and I enjoyed the series as I do all the Masterpiece offerings. I remember George Sand and her affair with Chopin being focused on.

I have the Marie Antoinette series ready to tape on my DVR. I have read a few books and also saw a couple of movies about her life, I look forward to see how PBS portrays her in this series.

SharkE · ‎08-19-2010

That one movie with that blonde chick was a waste of time

beautiful scenery though LOL

The real old movie with Norma Shearer was closer to the truth. Couldn't stand the guy who played Louis, the XVI

was dumb.

kittykatkay · ‎02-25-2011

@SharkE wrote:
@kittykatkay wrote:
@SharkE , WOW, what an interesting read. Thanks for posting this. Glad I didn't live back in those times. One thing I could not stand is to wear such heavy and puffy dresses and such....especially in the heat of summer. I would pass out.

think about the corsets ! cosmetics were made blended with lead, arsenic and chemicals we now know are poison.

Most Kings had people to taste their food first and if they didn't die then he would eat it. If the poor guy died then tough luck. Everybody wanted the position of
tending to the king's bathroom routine. Wiping. This
was considered a good job because you had his attention and it would be a good time to bring up
favors you wanted.

True ! Lots of other things went on, but, people wouldn't believe it. ROFL

@SharkE , thanks. Interesting read.

kittykatkay · ‎02-25-2011

@SharkE wrote:
She never said that by the way. Think 'cake' meant bread
back then. what makes me mad too is stuff you read then you find out later on that wasn't what was said, never happened, etc.

Just like 'The 3 faces of Eve" movie. That was what a psychiatrist made up. When I read that I couldn't believe it. Get so I don't believe nothing any more. Shouldn't be
legal. Myths and Legends galore turn out just to be gossip.

@SharkE , in reference to "The Three Faces of Eve"...it is a true story. There were 2 psychiatrists who dealt with Evelyn Lancaster (the patient's real name)....the psychiatrists were Dr. Corbett H. Thigpen and Dr. Hervey M. Cleckley.

At the time of this they both were psychiatrists at the Medical College of Georgia (now called Augusta University Health). This was in the 1950's when I was a little girl. Later, they left MCG and went into private practice.

I won't go into alot of detail, but in the 70's, I worked in the Dept. of Psychiatry at MCG and knew of this case. It is real. Later, Ms. Lancaster moved from Augusta, GA., and began seeing another psychiatrist where she began experiencing more personalities. She later wrote several books. Now whether those books were true or not, I don't know. But Drs., Thigpen and Cleckley were true. She came back to Augusta a couple of times and spoke (she became a mental health advocate) and in 2007 she again returned to Augusta, GA., to attend the 50th anniversary celebration of the film held at the Imperial Theater here.

SharkE · ‎08-19-2010

All I know is that one Dr. wanted to "doctor" up her story to make it more colorful, then, when it went to the screen he cleaned up.

Who knows the real truth ? cover ups, lies and such.

SharkE · ‎08-19-2010

Thigpen and Cleckley diagnosed Sizemore and treated her at no cost for several years.[3] In 1956, while still under their care, she signed the rights to her life storyto 20th Century Fox, although it was later alleged that she had signed this without legal representation and using the names of her alternate personalities.[3]

The Three Faces of Eve became a bestseller when it was published in 1957. This was written by Thigpen and Cleckley with limited input from Sizemore.

In 1958 she co-wrote (with James Poling) Strangers in My Body: The Final Face of Eve, using the pseudonym of Evelyn Lancaster. She wrote two later follow-ups: I'm Eve (1977), written with Elen Sain Pittillo; and A Mind of My Own (1989).

In 1970 she started treatment with Tony Tsitos, whom she credited with making the greatest progress in integrating the divergent personalities over the next four years.[3] According to both Sizemore and psychiatrists who worked with her after her treatment with Thigpen and Cleckley, it was not until she was in Tsitos' care that she became aware that she experienced not three selves, but more than 20 personalities that eventually were unified. It was reported that her selves were presented in groups of three at a time.[4][5]

Sizemore reported feeling exploited and objectified by the media blitz surrounding the book and film of Three Faces of Eve. Upon discovering in 1988 that her legal rights to her own life story had been signed away to 20th Century Fox by Thigpen, Sizemore went to Manhattan's Federal District Court to contest the contract. She accepted an out-of-court settlement, and no further films were made.[3][6][7][8][9][10]

kittykatkay · ‎02-25-2011

@SharkE wrote:
All I know is that one Dr. wanted to "doctor" up her story to make it more colorful, then, when it went to the screen he cleaned up.

Who knows the real truth ? cover ups, lies and such.

@SharkE , trust me. This story is real and both Drs. were writing the truth. These two psychiatrists were very reputable here.

Now, after she left Augusta and moved and took on another doctor, I can't say whether that was true or not. Nor do I know if her books were true or not that she wrote while with the new doctor.

kittykatkay · ‎02-25-2011

@SharkE wrote:
Thigpen and Cleckley diagnosed Sizemore and treated her at no cost for several years.[3] In 1956, while still under their care, she signed the rights to her life storyto 20th Century Fox, although it was later alleged that she had signed this without legal representation and using the names of her alternate personalities.[3]
The Three Faces of Eve became a bestseller when it was published in 1957. This was written by Thigpen and Cleckley with limited input from Sizemore.
In 1958 she co-wrote (with James Poling) Strangers in My Body: The Final Face of Eve, using the pseudonym of Evelyn Lancaster. She wrote two later follow-ups: I'm Eve (1977), written with Elen Sain Pittillo; and A Mind of My Own (1989).
In 1970 she started treatment with Tony Tsitos, whom she credited with making the greatest progress in integrating the divergent personalities over the next four years.[3] According to both Sizemore and psychiatrists who worked with her after her treatment with Thigpen and Cleckley, it was not until she was in Tsitos' care that she became aware that she experienced not three selves, but more than 20 personalities that eventually were unified. It was reported that her selves were presented in groups of three at a time.[4][5]
Sizemore reported feeling exploited and objectified by the media blitz surrounding the book and film of Three Faces of Eve. Upon discovering in 1988 that her legal rights to her own life story had been signed away to 20th Century Fox by Thigpen, Sizemore went to Manhattan's Federal District Court to contest the contract. She accepted an out-of-court settlement, and no further films were made.[3][6][7][8][9][10]

@SharkE , of course she wanted money and basically, she should have gotten some. This was in the 1950s. But I'm telling you the story is true she was being treated by Drs., Thigpen and Cleckley.

But as you read above when she went to a new doctor and discovered more personalities coming out and then she wrote books about it, well, I have no idea if that was true or not.

PS...Like I stated before, I was working in the Dept. of Psychiatry in the 1970s and there was one secretary still there who was there also in the 1950s when this was going on. She said it was true and told stories I won't mention here about this patient. But trust me, it's true.