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03-12-2019 05:48 PM
@gardenman wrote:I don't really blame the parents. If you've got the money and can afford to bribe your kids into a university they want to get in, I suspect many, maybe most, parents would do so. Now those rigging the tests and bribing the coaches for the parents deserve to be punished, but I don't really have an issue with parents doing whatever it takes to get their kids into the school of their choice. In the real world college admissions are as often about who you know as what you know. It's not all a meritocracy. A whole lot of people get into schools they're not really qualified for based on extenuating factors and a whole lot of deserving kids don't get in because they don't know the right people, or have the right connections.
I don't know anybody who would do that to themselves or to their children. Bribery, payoffs, cheating? Seriously?
03-12-2019 05:51 PM
here is the list of those indicted......
The Enterprise
At the center of the scandal are the Edge College & Career Network, also known as the Key, and a nonprofit organization, the Key Worldwide Foundation, that prosecutors say effectively were a single enterprise. They are accused of helping students cheat on standardized tests, and paying bribes to athletic coaches who could get the students into college using fake athletic credentials.
William Rick Singer, owner of the Edge College & Career Network, and chief executive of the Key Worldwide Foundation
Steven Masera, an accountant and financial officer for the two entities
Mikaela Sanford, an employee who held several roles and is accused of taking classes for high school students
The Parents
Federal prosecutors accused dozens of parents of paying millions of dollars in bribes to help their children secure spots at prestigious American universities.
Gamal Abdelaziz, a senior executive of a resort and casino operator
Gregory and Marcia Abbott. Gregory is the founder and chairman of a packaging company for the food and beverage industry, and the former head of a private-label clothing manufacturer
Diane Blake, an executive at a retail merchandising firm, and Todd Blake, entrepreneur and investor
Jane Buckingham, chief executive of a boutique marketing company
Gordon Caplan, a lawyer and a co-chairman of the international law firm Willkie Farr & Gallagher
I-Hsin “Joey” Chen, a provider of warehousing and related services for the shipping industry
Amy and Gregory Colburn. Gregory is a physician.
Robert Flaxman, chief executive of a Los Angeles-based real estate development firm
Mossimo Giannulli, fashion designer, and Lori Loughlin, actress
Elizabeth and Manuel Henriquez. Manuel is the founder, chairman and chief executive of a specialty finance company.
Douglas Hodge, former chief executive of Pimco, a major investment management company
Felicity Huffman, actress
Agustin Huneeus, owner of vineyards in Napa, Calif.
Bruce and Davina Isackson. Bruce is the president of a real estate development firm.
Michelle Janavs, a former executive of a food manufacturer
Elisabeth Kimmel, owner of a media company
Marjorie Klapper, co-owner of a jewelry business
Toby MacFarlane, a former senior executive at a title insurance company
William E. McGlashan Jr., a senior executive at a global private-equity firm
Marci Palatella, chief executive of a liquor distributor
Peter Jan “P.J.” Sartorio, a packaged-food entrepreneur
Stephen Semprevivo, an executive at an outsourcing company
David Sidoo
Devin Sloane, founder and chief executive of a drinking water and wastewater systems business
John Wilson, founder and chief executive of a private-equity and real estate development firm
Homayoun Zadeh, an associate professor of dentistry
Robert Zangrillo, founder and chief executive of a Miami-based venture capital and real estate firm
The Athletic Coaches
Athletic coaches from top colleges were also implicated and accused of accepting millions of dollars to help students gain admission.
Michael Center, head coach of men’s tennis at University of Texas at Austin
Gordon Ernst, former head coach of men’s and women’s tennis at Georgetown
William Ferguson, women’s volleyball coach at Wake Forest
Donna Heinel, senior associate athletic director at U.S.C.
Laura Janke, former assistant coach of women’s soccer at U.S.C.
Ali Khosroshahin, former head coach of women’s soccer at U.S.C.
Rudolph Meredith, former head coach of women’s soccer at Yale
Jorge Salcedo, former head coach of men’s soccer at U.C.L.A.
John Vandemoer, former sailing coach at Stanford
Jovan Vavic, former water polo coach at U.S.C.
The Other Players
Teachers, test administrators and private instructors are named as co-conspirators in the federal charging documents.
Igor Dvorskiy, test administrator for the College Board and A.C.T., accused of accepting bribes to facilitate the cheating scheme at the West Hollywood Test Center
Niki Williams, assistant teacher at a public high school in Houston and a test administrator for the College Board and A.C.T. who is accused of accepting bribes
Mark Riddell, a test proctor accused of tampering with students’ test papers to improve scores, and of secretly taking exams in place of students
Martin Fox, president of a private tennis academy and camp in Houston, accused of acting as a middleman for bribe payments
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/us/felicity-huffman-lori-loughlin-massimo-giannulli.html
03-12-2019 06:01 PM
@Kindaglitzy wrote:
... and so much for “When Calls The Heart” and the appeal of the show to so many young people. Will be interesting to see how Hallmark handles her role in this show and many of their movies.
I saw this on her Facebook Page.
03-12-2019 06:02 PM
03-12-2019 06:16 PM
You look at Lori Loughlin. Here is a gal who appeared to have everything. Great career as an actress and producer. Successful marriage. Beautiful, healthy daughters. Great reputation. Girlfriend had it all. And poof...just like that all gone for her and her husband; her daughters having one foot in the door due to her parents is now gone. And for what? Because her daughters were above having to do the work to get into their desired college or above going to a school they actually could have gotten into. I wonder if the colleges are going to kick out these students whose parents cheated their way in.
03-12-2019 06:17 PM
@Drythe wrote:
@gardenman wrote:I can state with a high degree of certainty that wealthy parents will do whatever it takes to get their kids into elite universities. They'll send them to private schools with good records of getting students admitted to elite universities. They'll hire private tutors to train their kids. They'll do whatever it takes. Is it so different to bribe a school official to achieve the same goal? When a performer gives millions to have a performing arts center built or updated and then their child goes to that same school, is it completely on that child's merit. No. When Regis Philbin's daughters went to Notre Dame was it because they were among the most qualified, or did Regis being a generous benefactor play a role?
While I can’t speak to your ‘high degree of certainty’, I will say that IMO your complacency is a sad testament to your integrity, it reflects poorly on the school you mention in your siggy.
I think his siggy refers to the Philadelphia Eagles...but I may be wrong. Are you thinking BC?
03-12-2019 06:27 PM
Some wealthy people use their money, connections, clout, etc. to ensure that their chldren remain privileged. I 've sat on admissions committees and seen the clout in action. Yet, some of those that used their clout would criticize programs designed to help those with diverse characteristics. Meritocracy seems relative in this matter and hypocrisy reigns.
03-12-2019 06:39 PM
@gardenman wrote:I can state with a high degree of certainty that wealthy parents will do whatever it takes to get their kids into elite universities. They'll send them to private schools with good records of getting students admitted to elite universities. They'll hire private tutors to train their kids. They'll do whatever it takes. Is it so different to bribe a school official to achieve the same goal? When a performer gives millions to have a performing arts center built or updated and then their child goes to that same school, is it completely on that child's merit. No. When Regis Philbin's daughters went to Notre Dame was it because they were among the most qualified, or did Regis being a generous benefactor play a role?
What you are suggesting is not a felony.
Regis is a very positive spokesman for ND.
He graduated from ND & made generous donations, so his children would get more consideration than my kids, for example. All colleges do this in some form or fashion, not just Ivy League or Elite schools. Hiring tutors is smart, not illegal
Offering a bribe as well as accepting a bribe is illegal and immoral.
03-12-2019 06:42 PM - edited 03-12-2019 08:28 PM
All of the parents are wealthy and probably have exceptional educations, except maybe the actors, and they worked hard for their achievements. Makes you wonder why they did not have the same expectations of hard work and an appreciation of education from their children.
03-12-2019 07:09 PM - edited 03-12-2019 07:10 PM
@LoriLori wrote:
@ALRATIBA wrote:
@barb40 wrote:What a shame people feel so entitled they think they are above the law...
And their kids are below the intellectual level to get admitted to college! Says a lot for their style of parenting!
@ALRATIBA You're saying "the kids are below the intellectual level to get admitted to college!". That's not true. They couldn't be admitted to those specific elite schools. That doesn't mean they couldn't get into any college.
@LoriLori I'm pretty sure she meant that those prospective students could not get into an elite school.. They may be able to get into a college with low admission standards (i.e., they would accept prospective students with lower SAT scores and a lower grade point average).
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